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Nathan Gill by Swansea_Blue27 Sep 19:50 This seems to have slipped under the radar, somewhat surprisingly given how serious it is. This bloke wasn’t out of the media for several years banging on about Brexit and being promoted by Farage (he was an MEP and head of the Brexit Party, now Reform, in Wales).
Anyhow, an anti-terrorism investigation has found he was being bribed by Russia to represent Russian interests in the European Parliament. Didn’t we used to hang people like this?
Nathan Gill by Swansea_Blue27 Sep 19:50 This seems to have slipped under the radar, somewhat surprisingly given how serious it is. This bloke wasn’t out of the media for several years banging on about Brexit and being promoted by Farage (he was an MEP and head of the Brexit Party, now Reform, in Wales).
Anyhow, an anti-terrorism investigation has found he was being bribed by Russia to represent Russian interests in the European Parliament. Didn’t we used to hang people like this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6xwy015ngo
Ah.... good ol' Swanners, beat me to it
But this stuff does need to be said loud and often....
Our future will be very dark indeed if we give more power to this rabble
Have I missed something or does it actually say EX member of Reform/UKIP? I’m sure if you look deep enough you can find all sorts of things that EX Politicians have got up to🙄
I posted this from Wikipedia (whose entry is headed the Union Jack) a couple of weeks ago.
"It is sometimes asserted that the term Union Jack properly refers only to naval usage, but this assertion was dismissed by the Flag Institute in 2013 after historical investigations."
Have I missed something or does it actually say EX member of Reform/UKIP? I’m sure if you look deep enough you can find all sorts of things that EX Politicians have got up to🙄
Hmm, I'm not aware of other ex politicians taking bribes to make statements in favour of Russia while being a Member of the European Parliament though!
Time and again Reform have been shown to accept absolutely anyone with no or minimal checks, at best. At worst they actively recruit ne'er-do-wells!
Have I missed something or does it actually say EX member of Reform/UKIP? I’m sure if you look deep enough you can find all sorts of things that EX Politicians have got up to🙄
Let me get this straight:
You are trying to defend an elected UK MEP for taking bribes to advance Russian interests (maybe look up Salisbury poisonings if you have forgotten our relationship with Russia in this period...)
And you are trying to defend it by saying: all politicians are the same.
You might be pretty deep in the Farage cult, but there comes a point where you realise the mental gymnastics you are going through.
MEPs or Welsh Assembly Members who take bribes from a Foreign Government are not patriots. They are traitors.
And yes, he had senior positions in both UKIP and Reform- those are publicly available facts, and links have been provided in this and the other thread.
You are trying to defend an elected UK MEP for taking bribes to advance Russian interests (maybe look up Salisbury poisonings if you have forgotten our relationship with Russia in this period...)
And you are trying to defend it by saying: all politicians are the same.
You might be pretty deep in the Farage cult, but there comes a point where you realise the mental gymnastics you are going through.
MEPs or Welsh Assembly Members who take bribes from a Foreign Government are not patriots. They are traitors.
And yes, he had senior positions in both UKIP and Reform- those are publicly available facts, and links have been provided in this and the other thread.
I’m not defending anyone, it’s been pointed out he is an EX member of the bodies you have mentioned! And yes you can call him a traitor but did the Govt of the say actually charge him?(they should have)Labour have got to be a bit desperate to dig this up though,how far do you want to go back about Russia? I mean way back we had a set of MPs in our government spying for them!
I’m not defending anyone, it’s been pointed out he is an EX member of the bodies you have mentioned! And yes you can call him a traitor but did the Govt of the say actually charge him?(they should have)Labour have got to be a bit desperate to dig this up though,how far do you want to go back about Russia? I mean way back we had a set of MPs in our government spying for them!
I do get your point that criminal behaviour of individual MPs does not mean a party they represent always stands for that behaviour.
However, the party's policies were to promote those very interests and yet huge numbers of the electorate seem to think they are representing their own interests.
The point of the OP is that Reform as a party is really not patriotic and those at the heart of it are about looking after their own interests. It is very sad that so many are falling for their simplistic rhetoric on the complete misunderstanding that they would likely benefit from Reform having some semblance of power.
I’m not defending anyone, it’s been pointed out he is an EX member of the bodies you have mentioned! And yes you can call him a traitor but did the Govt of the say actually charge him?(they should have)Labour have got to be a bit desperate to dig this up though,how far do you want to go back about Russia? I mean way back we had a set of MPs in our government spying for them!
Just for clarity, who were the British MPs who were spying for Russia as I can't find anything about them?
But this stuff does need to be said loud and often....
Our future will be very dark indeed if we give more power to this rabble
Yep, it does need to be said loudly so the more posts the merrier 👍. If it wasn’t for me looking through the Welsh stuff because it’s relevant to where I live I wouldn’t have seen it. Even then it was well down the list of articles.
I’d have thought Russian bribery of politicians in office would be a scandal. I can’t get my head around it not being front page news.
Yep, it does need to be said loudly so the more posts the merrier 👍. If it wasn’t for me looking through the Welsh stuff because it’s relevant to where I live I wouldn’t have seen it. Even then it was well down the list of articles.
I’d have thought Russian bribery of politicians in office would be a scandal. I can’t get my head around it not being front page news.
I think we are still waiting for the results of the inquiry into Russian interference in the Brexit vote including Cummings' time spent in Moscow
And, of course, the report into Russian contributions to Trump's election victories
I’m not defending anyone, it’s been pointed out he is an EX member of the bodies you have mentioned! And yes you can call him a traitor but did the Govt of the say actually charge him?(they should have)Labour have got to be a bit desperate to dig this up though,how far do you want to go back about Russia? I mean way back we had a set of MPs in our government spying for them!
I'm not sure Labour are digging anything up.
He was in Court on Friday, it is a current event
The length of time between the crime and being convicted seems lengthy, but that is a matter for Police, CPS and the Courts, not the current Govt.
I’m not defending anyone, it’s been pointed out he is an EX member of the bodies you have mentioned! And yes you can call him a traitor but did the Govt of the say actually charge him?(they should have)Labour have got to be a bit desperate to dig this up though,how far do you want to go back about Russia? I mean way back we had a set of MPs in our government spying for them!
Wow, what with the desperation to pin something on the Labour government (nothing to do with them) and the unproven whatabouterry about some unamed past misdemeanors, your mental gymnastics here are impressive!
Endless nit-picking about various Reform representatives is a waste of time. They are essentially a one man party, although now they have such broad support they might even be able to survive the loss of Farage. I have no intention of voting for Reform, but Labour need to do something about the immigration fox, or Reform will have a meaningful impact on the next General Election. Their 1 in 1 out scheme is a pointless farce. Starmer calling out anti immigration voters as racist or immoral will only backfire. Yes, the Tories had 13 years of failure to deal with the issue, but he needs to find something. ID cards are a belatedly good idea, but this will be problematic & take time.
Endless nit-picking about various Reform representatives is a waste of time. They are essentially a one man party, although now they have such broad support they might even be able to survive the loss of Farage. I have no intention of voting for Reform, but Labour need to do something about the immigration fox, or Reform will have a meaningful impact on the next General Election. Their 1 in 1 out scheme is a pointless farce. Starmer calling out anti immigration voters as racist or immoral will only backfire. Yes, the Tories had 13 years of failure to deal with the issue, but he needs to find something. ID cards are a belatedly good idea, but this will be problematic & take time.
I wouldn’t say taking bribes to represent Russian interests in a parliament is nit picking. Precedents when UK politicians have been for working for a foreign powers used to generate a huge amount of publicity.
The one in one out is a gimmick, you’d be better off looking at the record fall in immigration last year and the figures that suggest it’s fallen again this year. If roughly halving it (while screwing over our businesses) isn’t convincing some people, nothing will. Starmer was absolutely right to call out Reform’s racist and immoral approach today (better late than never).
The other parties need to sort themselves out, as the Grifter is predicted to be the next PM if a GE is held right now.
Saw a video midweek of one of them wearing the Union Jack upside down whilst on the TV (possibly Question Time), how very patriotic…
I notice that of all these Union Flags appearing around here with St George Cross, Welsh Dragon, the Saltaire and the N Ireland flag. None are being flown upside down. There is an improvement at least.
I posted this from Wikipedia (whose entry is headed the Union Jack) a couple of weeks ago.
"It is sometimes asserted that the term Union Jack properly refers only to naval usage, but this assertion was dismissed by the Flag Institute in 2013 after historical investigations."
Photos of Nigel with the Russian's wife all over the place too. Between him and Boris, the Cambridge analytica stuff as well as all the Londongrad stuff; these people are utter scum wrecking our nation.
There needs to be massive scrutiny and arrests throughout the far right. From the paedo protecting stuff in the EDL, to the Mossad links Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and Nigel are two ends of the same death turd.
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