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Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 18:34 - Oct 16 by GlasgowBlue
That sounds awfully like you are excusing what was essentially a "Jew hunt" in a European city.
[Post edited 16 Oct 18:34]
"The evening before the match, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans were filmed pulling Palestinian flags from houses, making racist anti-Arab chants such as "death to Arabs", assaulting people, and vandalising local property"
Oop
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Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 18:40 - Oct 16 with 5545 views
Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 18:34 - Oct 16 by GlasgowBlue
That sounds awfully like you are excusing what was essentially a "Jew hunt" in a European city.
[Post edited 16 Oct 18:34]
It was widely reported that the Macabi fans behaviour was pretty awful, removing Palestinian flags, damaging property where they were hanging and singing pro-IDF and anti-Arab songs, some of which were utterly awful.
Now that clearly doesn't excuse any targeting of Jewish people that happened later but you can't just ignore the Macabi fans contribution to the issues.
SB
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FFS, inevitably..... on 18:43 - Oct 16 with 5529 views
Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 18:38 - Oct 16 by bartyg
"The evening before the match, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans were filmed pulling Palestinian flags from houses, making racist anti-Arab chants such as "death to Arabs", assaulting people, and vandalising local property"
Oop
Yes. The behavior of a minority of their fans was absolutely disgusting. That doesn't excuse a coordinated attack on anyone suspected of being Jewish or "helping Jews",
If, for example, a minority of Al-Hilal fans behaved in the appalling manner that the Maccabi would that excuse a bunch of racists co-ordinating attacks on anyone suspected of being a Muslim or "helping Muslims"?
Feels a bit dodgy from a sporting integrity standpoint given the new european format (as Villa don’t go back to Israel for a return game like they would have done previously).
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Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 18:51 - Oct 16 with 5379 views
Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 18:41 - Oct 16 by StokieBlue
It was widely reported that the Macabi fans behaviour was pretty awful, removing Palestinian flags, damaging property where they were hanging and singing pro-IDF and anti-Arab songs, some of which were utterly awful.
Now that clearly doesn't excuse any targeting of Jewish people that happened later but you can't just ignore the Macabi fans contribution to the issues.
SB
[Post edited 16 Oct 18:43]
Who ignored the behaviour of the Macabi fans? At the time I condemned their disgusting racist behaviour and genocidal chanting.
Your second point is bizarre. There should be no "but" after "that clearly doesn't excuse any targeting of Jewish people".
Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 18:44 - Oct 16 by GlasgowBlue
Yes. The behavior of a minority of their fans was absolutely disgusting. That doesn't excuse a coordinated attack on anyone suspected of being Jewish or "helping Jews",
If, for example, a minority of Al-Hilal fans behaved in the appalling manner that the Maccabi would that excuse a bunch of racists co-ordinating attacks on anyone suspected of being a Muslim or "helping Muslims"?
Oop.
Quite hypocritical of a response, no? I don't deny that some of the reported actions were antisemitic but you tar the entire thing as such.
If it's Maccabi fans doing racism it's a bad egg, if it's anyone else they're all antisemitic. Do you consider Israelis above reproach?
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Aston Villa banning away fans..... on 19:03 - Oct 16 with 5188 views
Certainly sets a dangerous precedent. Seems a lazy approach from WMP.
Certainly a worrying precedent that local police can determine whether away fans attend matches. Where does that end?
If there is an issue due to the behaviour of Maccabi fans then UEFA should take action.
Otherwise, it seems reasonable that if the police genuinely think they cannot safely oversee a match with both sets of fans then the match is behind closed doors.
....this has every chance of turning into an antisemitic/anti Isreal thread.
I should have known better really.
Phillip if this starts going in the usual direction feel free to delete it before it gets out of hand.
Cheers.
Hmm. Yes you definitely didn’t think this would be provocative.
Israel and its clubs should be out of all competitive football anyway, given they have been breaking FIFA and UEFA regulations for years for playing Israeli FA sanctioned football on the West Bank.
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