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Hypothetical question 19:46 - Oct 18 with 2084 viewsBaaBaaBlue

Seeing Norwich struggling near the bottom of the table got me thinking — do you think any club would ever intentionally aim for relegation in the hope of rebuilding and using the momentum from promotion to push on to the Premier League?

When you think about it, a team like Norwich could (and have) spent a fair bit of money trying to stay up/push for promotion, but it doesn’t seem to be getting them anywhere.

On the face of it, feels like a risky strategy. However, treading water and slowly getting weaker year-by-year is soul destroying for a club.

Just putting the idea out there.
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Hypothetical question on 19:58 - Oct 18 with 2023 viewsEastTownBlue

It was often mentioned on here that relegation in 2019 would allow the club to bounce straight back up. But that took a change of ownership with investment and a young, promising manager to change that after four long seasons.
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Hypothetical question on 19:58 - Oct 18 with 2012 viewsJ2BLUE

No, that would be insane. Losing something like £6-6.5m a season to go down and potentially get stuck down there like we did and other big clubs for that level did as well.

It would be insane.

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Hypothetical question on 21:09 - Oct 18 with 1840 viewsFrimleyBlue

No

But I've often wondered if a manager might take a job on, make it look like theyre trying but really want the club to fail, maybe an ex player of a rival club etc

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Hypothetical question on 21:52 - Oct 18 with 1722 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

No.

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Hypothetical question on 22:14 - Oct 18 with 1669 viewsBaaBaaBlue

Fair enough.

What about the idea of someone wealthy buying a couple to stifle it and fail, allowing other clubs to prosper?

(Apologies, I'm on one today!)
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Hypothetical question on 22:22 - Oct 18 with 1637 viewsmutters

There was quite a few who wanted us down to league one so we could basically do what you said.

Lets me honest we lucked out with the new owners, the timing and their vision for the club. If ME hadn't sold we could easily have stagnated in L1 and stumbled around for a lot longer than we did.

If them lot up the road go down, it could be a very difficult path back. They've had their ne investor come in already and they are struggling. Personally I don't think they will go down, they have enough quality about them to be well clear of the relegation zone, however we all know what football is like at times when you go on a bad run.

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Hypothetical question on 22:27 - Oct 18 with 1603 viewsMattinLondon

Relegation is never ever the answer.
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Hypothetical question on 23:26 - Oct 18 with 1484 viewsBlueBadger

Hypothetical question on 21:09 - Oct 18 by FrimleyBlue

No

But I've often wondered if a manager might take a job on, make it look like theyre trying but really want the club to fail, maybe an ex player of a rival club etc


For the sake of continuing this thread shall we call this manager Raul Flamberge?
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Hypothetical question on 23:51 - Oct 18 with 1441 viewsTheBoyBlue

I see what you mean. I don't believe Gamechanger would've bought us if we were in the Championship, I think we were the right sized club in the right place in investment terms.

However, if they hadn't have come in we would likely be in League 2 or even worse by now, so it is an awfully risky strategy with more likely to be lost than gained.

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Hypothetical question on 08:15 - Oct 19 with 1196 viewsITFC_Forever

No.

The whole “momentum from coming up will push on to the Prem thing” is a ridiculous myth.

We did it. And were the first ones for years to do it. There’s only a handful of teams that have done it in the past.
And that’s because it’s bloody difficult to do.

Birmingham are the latest to discover they’re not as good as they think they are.

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Hypothetical question on 09:26 - Oct 19 with 1096 viewsmuccletonjoe

The loss of attendance money , tv revenue , sponsorship etc would mean a very tough job for any manager to turn around without major investment. That is something they have not really had under Delia and now the club finances are in the process of changing , upto now, what money they have been given doesn't look to have been well spent. Blindly sinking into league one is suicidal. It was probably the worst period I have ever seen with Town , under Lambert it still brings shudders .
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Hypothetical question on 10:22 - Oct 19 with 1043 viewsNthQldITFC

Hypothetical question on 22:27 - Oct 18 by MattinLondon

Relegation is never ever the answer.


I think it is the answer for N*rwich, but it's the answer to a slightly different question.

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Hypothetical question on 10:47 - Oct 19 with 1008 viewsGuthrum

People forget how rare a double promotion like ours has been. Only five times in the 33 years of the Prem's existence - and only once in the last decade. That's long odds to bet on.

Plus we saw for ourselves where that can leave you after rushing into the top division.

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Hypothetical question on 14:22 - Oct 19 with 867 viewsLA_Tractor_Boy

I don't believe a club as a whole would intentionally aim for relegation, but I fully believe Marcus Evans was happy for us to drop into League One.

I think it's recognised that the Championship is the costliest league in terms of losses, so if it wasn't for Covid, Evans would have been able reduce some of the money he was haemorrhaging as his debt grew to nearly £100M.

I reckon Chansiri is thinking the same at Sheff Weds. He'll happily wait in League One until an acceptable offer comes along.
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Hypothetical question on 17:10 - Oct 19 with 783 viewsringwoodblue

If they go down to Lg1, maybe they’ll get bought by Curtis Warren (a English gangster and drugs trafficker) and become known as ‘The Budgie Smugglers’

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Hypothetical question on 08:45 - Oct 20 with 533 viewspositivity

even the best financed league one team ever (brum) are showing how hard the championship is, so it's not a magic bullet. holds far more risks than rewards

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Hypothetical question on 09:51 - Oct 20 with 443 viewsjas0999

No. Not a chance would anyone want to intentionally get relegated.
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Hypothetical question on 09:54 - Oct 20 with 428 viewsbaxterbasics

Hypothetical question on 09:51 - Oct 20 by jas0999

No. Not a chance would anyone want to intentionally get relegated.



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Hypothetical question on 10:36 - Oct 20 with 345 viewsReusersTown

Hypothetical question on 19:58 - Oct 18 by EastTownBlue

It was often mentioned on here that relegation in 2019 would allow the club to bounce straight back up. But that took a change of ownership with investment and a young, promising manager to change that after four long seasons.
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But it did enable it to happen. Do you think the takeover happens without it?
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Hypothetical question on 10:52 - Oct 20 with 306 viewsWeWereZombies

Hypothetical question on 14:22 - Oct 19 by LA_Tractor_Boy

I don't believe a club as a whole would intentionally aim for relegation, but I fully believe Marcus Evans was happy for us to drop into League One.

I think it's recognised that the Championship is the costliest league in terms of losses, so if it wasn't for Covid, Evans would have been able reduce some of the money he was haemorrhaging as his debt grew to nearly £100M.

I reckon Chansiri is thinking the same at Sheff Weds. He'll happily wait in League One until an acceptable offer comes along.


Your last paragraph is a good reason for for the Football Regulator to step in now and force Chansiri to sell up within six weeks to whoever is of sufficient character and makes the highest bid (hopefully £1.)

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