| One negative from today, for me anyway 19:46 - Oct 25 with 2110 views | BouncebackIpswich |
Jaden, found him an extremely frustrating watch. He really needs to learn when to release the ball with a quick pass to keep moves going. We know he's there to beat a man and curl in shots and crosses but doing it every time slows down play and promising moves so much. I'd like to see Clarke get a run on the left side now, for me he suits our style of play much more and is more of a team player than JP. |  | | |  |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 22:08 - Oct 25 with 1765 views | cressi |
For me his either on it and superb or almost does nothing don't do average. |  | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 22:48 - Oct 25 with 1658 views | coote |
He’s rubbish. |  | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 22:59 - Oct 25 with 1608 views | FrimleyBlue |
I like him.
Think people are being harsh considering he spends most of the game with a player tight up his ar5e. |  |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:06 - Oct 25 with 1588 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 22:08 - Oct 25 by cressi |
For me his either on it and superb or almost does nothing don't do average. |
Haha that's a great summary. He doesn't do 6/10. Even within a game he goes from world beater to competition beater | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:15 - Oct 25 with 1546 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Yes, he does need to learn this. Hence why KMc is currently coaching his game to improve these aspects.
I mean, the guy is currently our joint top scorer, is nowhere near his peak as a footballer, both physically and mentally, and will only get better, as per the difference between last season and this.
Last season, Hutchinson was equally as inconsistent, and we made a tidy profit. This is our model. We will see developing talent on the pitch week in, week out, and it will at times be inconsistent. But what would you prefer? A bog standard Champ winger, or a young, huge prospect who will sometimes blow cold or make wrong decisions, but also provide screamers against Norwich and hattricks?
Edit: Hutch scored 10 goals with us in the last Championship season, and 3 in the Prem. I'd wager Jaden will exceed that. [Post edited 25 Oct 23:20]
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:24 - Oct 25 with 1495 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:15 - Oct 25 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Yes, he does need to learn this. Hence why KMc is currently coaching his game to improve these aspects.
I mean, the guy is currently our joint top scorer, is nowhere near his peak as a footballer, both physically and mentally, and will only get better, as per the difference between last season and this.
Last season, Hutchinson was equally as inconsistent, and we made a tidy profit. This is our model. We will see developing talent on the pitch week in, week out, and it will at times be inconsistent. But what would you prefer? A bog standard Champ winger, or a young, huge prospect who will sometimes blow cold or make wrong decisions, but also provide screamers against Norwich and hattricks?
Edit: Hutch scored 10 goals with us in the last Championship season, and 3 in the Prem. I'd wager Jaden will exceed that. [Post edited 25 Oct 23:20]
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I agree with all of this, but we're still allowed to point out his areas of development while he is still developing. Will add his all round is miles behind Omaris even when Omari first arrived.
He is hugely talented but has a heck of lot of rough edges to smooth out and that's why Jack Clarke starts for now, for me. | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 00:27 - Oct 26 with 1360 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:24 - Oct 25 by BouncebackIpswich |
I agree with all of this, but we're still allowed to point out his areas of development while he is still developing. Will add his all round is miles behind Omaris even when Omari first arrived.
He is hugely talented but has a heck of lot of rough edges to smooth out and that's why Jack Clarke starts for now, for me. |
Absolutely, you are allowed to point that out. And I agree that Jack Clarke has shown more exponential growth, too.
I remember last season Omari often frustratingly slowed up play, but also, he was great at holding up play when needed, at times. I wonder if some of the frustrating wrong choices are just poor choices, which will only be learned by experience. | |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 00:33 - Oct 26 with 1346 views | itfcsuth |
Have the same opinion - find him infuriating to watch at times.
Started the game looking sharp, had a bit of end product to his game, spent the remainder frustrating.
Sometimes looks more interested in the Jaden Philogene highlight reel, can imagine Leif must be equally frustrated at times.
His decision making has to improve, inexcusable at times. |  | | |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 00:44 - Oct 26 with 1311 views | bournemouthblue |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 00:33 - Oct 26 by itfcsuth |
Have the same opinion - find him infuriating to watch at times.
Started the game looking sharp, had a bit of end product to his game, spent the remainder frustrating.
Sometimes looks more interested in the Jaden Philogene highlight reel, can imagine Leif must be equally frustrated at times.
His decision making has to improve, inexcusable at times. |
He is partly the reason why Davis has been less effective, the amount of tines he's free on the overlap and doesn't use him |  |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 00:44 - Oct 26 with 1308 views | tractor_lady |
I think one area he has improved immensely is his work ethic, chased everything… Hirst could learn a lot!! | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 07:01 - Oct 26 with 966 views | BlueBoots |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:24 - Oct 25 by BouncebackIpswich |
I agree with all of this, but we're still allowed to point out his areas of development while he is still developing. Will add his all round is miles behind Omaris even when Omari first arrived.
He is hugely talented but has a heck of lot of rough edges to smooth out and that's why Jack Clarke starts for now, for me. |
"Will add his all round is miles behind Omaris even when Omari first arrived."
Really not the case...we were Omari's introduction to football above U21 level, and he took the best part of half a season to get up to speed in the Championship... |  |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 07:10 - Oct 26 with 923 views | franz_tyson |
Well, if he is a show pony.... he has an end product. He can shoot and score from distance. That'll do for me. | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 07:16 - Oct 26 with 896 views | ernie |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:15 - Oct 25 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Yes, he does need to learn this. Hence why KMc is currently coaching his game to improve these aspects.
I mean, the guy is currently our joint top scorer, is nowhere near his peak as a footballer, both physically and mentally, and will only get better, as per the difference between last season and this.
Last season, Hutchinson was equally as inconsistent, and we made a tidy profit. This is our model. We will see developing talent on the pitch week in, week out, and it will at times be inconsistent. But what would you prefer? A bog standard Champ winger, or a young, huge prospect who will sometimes blow cold or make wrong decisions, but also provide screamers against Norwich and hattricks?
Edit: Hutch scored 10 goals with us in the last Championship season, and 3 in the Prem. I'd wager Jaden will exceed that. [Post edited 25 Oct 23:20]
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Hutchinson is/was at least a couple of levels above Philogene, in the championship or the prem. his work rate and overall contribution to the team exceed Jaden’s. | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:13 - Oct 26 with 739 views | Swansea_Blue |
Agreed. He’s a talented footballer, but we’re not seeing the best of those around him (especially Leif, Hirst, whoever’s in the 10) because he often ignores them. |  |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:17 - Oct 26 with 728 views | Herbivore |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 07:01 - Oct 26 by BlueBoots |
"Will add his all round is miles behind Omaris even when Omari first arrived."
Really not the case...we were Omari's introduction to football above U21 level, and he took the best part of half a season to get up to speed in the Championship... |
The OP was supporting Leicester back then so probably doesn't recall what Omari was like at the start for us. |  |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:32 - Oct 26 with 685 views | darkhorse28 |
In danger of becoming JET. He should look at his career path.
Could go neither way. More quality than 90% of players to ever play at this level.
Also shocking without the ball. Positionally and work rate.., and seems to have zero intensity.
It doesn’t help, that when he scores a worldy, which is often tbf, he does a 5 minutes of what an elite player looks like in terms of intensity. Then back to type.., lazy and not interested.
So he can do it.
Not hard to see why elite clubs get rid of him quickly.
Butbquskity wise, best in the group by a distance.
Sadly another McKenna trying to prove he can work the oracle.
He can’t. He won’t ever be premier league level…, you can’t coach desire to be the best version of yourself. Clarke offer more ton to regroup but he’s not great either defensively, but it’s not lack of desire, and you can’t coach coach that.
Nice problem quality wise.., grateful to have that level as options. | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:35 - Oct 26 with 680 views | Herbivore |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:32 - Oct 26 by darkhorse28 |
In danger of becoming JET. He should look at his career path.
Could go neither way. More quality than 90% of players to ever play at this level.
Also shocking without the ball. Positionally and work rate.., and seems to have zero intensity.
It doesn’t help, that when he scores a worldy, which is often tbf, he does a 5 minutes of what an elite player looks like in terms of intensity. Then back to type.., lazy and not interested.
So he can do it.
Not hard to see why elite clubs get rid of him quickly.
Butbquskity wise, best in the group by a distance.
Sadly another McKenna trying to prove he can work the oracle.
He can’t. He won’t ever be premier league level…, you can’t coach desire to be the best version of yourself. Clarke offer more ton to regroup but he’s not great either defensively, but it’s not lack of desire, and you can’t coach coach that.
Nice problem quality wise.., grateful to have that level as options. |
Obvious troll is obvious. | |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 09:16 - Oct 26 with 593 views | StokieBlue |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:35 - Oct 26 by Herbivore |
Obvious troll is obvious. |
I'm amazed at the amount of effort he puts into it.
SB |  | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 09:44 - Oct 26 with 534 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:17 - Oct 26 by Herbivore |
The OP was supporting Leicester back then so probably doesn't recall what Omari was like at the start for us. |
All those vegetables you are eating make you very full of bitter gas | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 09:58 - Oct 26 with 494 views | jimmyvet |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 08:32 - Oct 26 by darkhorse28 |
In danger of becoming JET. He should look at his career path.
Could go neither way. More quality than 90% of players to ever play at this level.
Also shocking without the ball. Positionally and work rate.., and seems to have zero intensity.
It doesn’t help, that when he scores a worldy, which is often tbf, he does a 5 minutes of what an elite player looks like in terms of intensity. Then back to type.., lazy and not interested.
So he can do it.
Not hard to see why elite clubs get rid of him quickly.
Butbquskity wise, best in the group by a distance.
Sadly another McKenna trying to prove he can work the oracle.
He can’t. He won’t ever be premier league level…, you can’t coach desire to be the best version of yourself. Clarke offer more ton to regroup but he’s not great either defensively, but it’s not lack of desire, and you can’t coach coach that.
Nice problem quality wise.., grateful to have that level as options. |
It’s brilliant your little team are heading towards division 1 and you spend all your life on here sprouting about BS …. God I wish you would get a ban your such a boring troll. | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 11:03 - Oct 26 with 421 views | Garv |
For someone clearly so athletic I don't understand why he doesn't run into space down the wing more. Second half he had acres in front of him at times, all he needed to do was knock the ball past his man and run onto it. Won't work every time obviously, but he so rarely even tries. |  |
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| One negative from today, for me anyway on 11:29 - Oct 26 with 379 views | BloomBlue |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 23:24 - Oct 25 by BouncebackIpswich |
I agree with all of this, but we're still allowed to point out his areas of development while he is still developing. Will add his all round is miles behind Omaris even when Omari first arrived.
He is hugely talented but has a heck of lot of rough edges to smooth out and that's why Jack Clarke starts for now, for me. |
Disagree. When Omari first joined us in the Championship, tracking back was an unknown expression for him. That first game against Sunderland he came on as a sub, tried to beat 3 players with stepovers, lost the ball and stood there watching Sunderland attack and nearly score.
That was to be expected, he was young and learning. It was KM and the coaches who helped him develop his all round game as the season progressed. |  | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 11:34 - Oct 26 with 364 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 11:03 - Oct 26 by Garv |
For someone clearly so athletic I don't understand why he doesn't run into space down the wing more. Second half he had acres in front of him at times, all he needed to do was knock the ball past his man and run onto it. Won't work every time obviously, but he so rarely even tries. |
Yes, on the occasions he has gone the other way and gone down the line it's been really effective, it would be nice to see him try it more. J.Clarke has added this to his game recently and it's created a number of chances | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 11:37 - Oct 26 with 354 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 11:03 - Oct 26 by Garv |
For someone clearly so athletic I don't understand why he doesn't run into space down the wing more. Second half he had acres in front of him at times, all he needed to do was knock the ball past his man and run onto it. Won't work every time obviously, but he so rarely even tries. |
Not sure how much attention you paid to him off the ball, but I lost count of the number of times he started to run into space, and he had to check his run because the ball carrier didn't play the ball into the space he was running into. I saw this several times in the first half, as the space he was anticipating to run into is right below us in the SAR.
I can imagine after the tenth time of that happening in a match, you get a little discouraged. | | | |
| One negative from today, for me anyway on 11:42 - Oct 26 with 337 views | MrPotatoHead |
He’s one of the best in his position at this level, if not the best. He would walk in to any other side. |  | | |
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