| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser 11:55 - Oct 30 with 4083 views | Fixed_It |
Sore throat apparently... 
*for the avoidance of all doubt - he hasn't! |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:01 - Oct 30 with 3021 views | Keno |
are you sure about that?? |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:18 - Oct 30 with 2759 views | ArnieM |
Unfortunately if Celtic officially come calling, he'll be off. |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:20 - Oct 30 with 2738 views | Perublue |
I wonder if keane is keen ? … Roy, Robbie or the band. |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:21 - Oct 30 with 2706 views | Herbivore |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:18 - Oct 30 by ArnieM |
Unfortunately if Celtic officially come calling, he'll be off. |
Not sure it's that straightforward. They can't afford his release clause or wages and although they are a big club, the SPL can be a bit of a graveyard for managers. I know people point to Ange and Stevie G as examples of managers getting decent Prem jobs off the back of success in the SPL but I think those two have meant a few fingers have been burnt and I'm not sure it's a guaranteed route to a good Prem job these days. |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:27 - Oct 30 with 2594 views | homer_123 |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:18 - Oct 30 by ArnieM |
Unfortunately if Celtic officially come calling, he'll be off. |
Why? |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:28 - Oct 30 with 2575 views | homer_123 |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:21 - Oct 30 by Herbivore |
Not sure it's that straightforward. They can't afford his release clause or wages and although they are a big club, the SPL can be a bit of a graveyard for managers. I know people point to Ange and Stevie G as examples of managers getting decent Prem jobs off the back of success in the SPL but I think those two have meant a few fingers have been burnt and I'm not sure it's a guaranteed route to a good Prem job these days. |
Irrespective, If MO does a half decent caretaking job, he'll get the gig anyway. | |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:34 - Oct 30 with 2446 views | MrPotatoHead |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:21 - Oct 30 by Herbivore |
Not sure it's that straightforward. They can't afford his release clause or wages and although they are a big club, the SPL can be a bit of a graveyard for managers. I know people point to Ange and Stevie G as examples of managers getting decent Prem jobs off the back of success in the SPL but I think those two have meant a few fingers have been burnt and I'm not sure it's a guaranteed route to a good Prem job these days. |
The way I see it is McKenna joined us because it was a great 1st step as #1 and exciting project. He needed us as much, perhaps more, than we needed him. By the time he started getting serious interest from the PL we were in touching distance ourselves, and got there. Then that Brighton and potentially Chelsea call was probably the absolute toughest ones to make. We were in the best position possible at the time to tempt him to stay with a big deal and off the back of a double promotion. Does he regret it? Only he can say.
Circumstances change though, maybe he feels ready for something different. He'll be conscious of his own reputation too. I think ultimately he wants the United or Spurs job at some point but will probably need a step between us and them. Celtic might well be that, win the league there a couple of times and he's probably well placed when Amorim or Frank move on. I could see it happening, I'm just not sure if they could afford him. |  | | |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:36 - Oct 30 with 2404 views | ArnieM |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:27 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
Why? |
Becuase Celtic are a far bigger club, and will offer Kieran a way into thd highest level for club football, the Champions League. I dont think Town will be offering thst any time soon, do you. I fintbeven think hes particularly worried about money strangely enough in the money and world of professional football. He's a multi- millionaire now, and financially secure, and can truly focus on a new venture at Celtic. Why wouldn't he take that opportunity?
All I ever wanted him to fi at Town was be more flexible. But hes his own man, and will do it his way. I respect that, even if I dont agree | |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:39 - Oct 30 with 2343 views | leitrimblue |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:28 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
Irrespective, If MO does a half decent caretaking job, he'll get the gig anyway. |
Have spoke to a few Celtic supporters over last few days (I'm feck1n surrounded by um) including couple of season ticket holders and a lad who's brother plays for um.
None of um seem that impressed with the idea of Mckenna ( partly because they feel they deserve Pep or Arteta). They would prefer O'Neil. Bizarre enough.
They also incredibly unhappy with Desmond and blame him not Rodgers for this seasons failure.
Would say Mckenna would be wise to give the club a very wide berth. |  | | |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:44 - Oct 30 with 2260 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:18 - Oct 30 by ArnieM |
Unfortunately if Celtic officially come calling, he'll be off. |
I think you could be right.
Not gone well for him here for the last 18 months, reputation going downhill from where it was 2 years ago. He will be winning every week in scotland, playing champions league.... you can kind of see the appeal!!
I hope he stays, but now is a very good time to be tempting him with a bigger club. |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:48 - Oct 30 with 2156 views | Swansea_Blue |
I must be reading something to you as I can’t see where it says he’s keen. It’s clickbait rubbish cobbled together from other reports that themselves are just speculation. |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:49 - Oct 30 with 2134 views | Swansea_Blue |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:27 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
Why? |
Loves a deep fried Mars bar washed down with a bottle of Buckfast Tonic does our Kieran. | |
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| No chance, plus.... on 13:50 - Oct 30 with 2117 views | Bloots |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:28 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
Irrespective, If MO does a half decent caretaking job, he'll get the gig anyway. |
....he's already said (according to Talksport, who he works for) that KM is the one they want.
If he doesn't go there then it will be entirely down to the money, not anything else. |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:00 - Oct 30 with 1919 views | bsw72 |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:36 - Oct 30 by ArnieM |
Becuase Celtic are a far bigger club, and will offer Kieran a way into thd highest level for club football, the Champions League. I dont think Town will be offering thst any time soon, do you. I fintbeven think hes particularly worried about money strangely enough in the money and world of professional football. He's a multi- millionaire now, and financially secure, and can truly focus on a new venture at Celtic. Why wouldn't he take that opportunity?
All I ever wanted him to fi at Town was be more flexible. But hes his own man, and will do it his way. I respect that, even if I dont agree |
Not sure on the logic.
Bigger club yes, but not a bigger challenge.
They will never win the champions league, and the expectation is to always win at least the Scottish League and 1 or 2 cups.
That is a very narrow challenge and limited scope compared to what can be achieved at Ipswich.
The challenge at Ipswich is actually bigger in scope while smaller in expectation. |  | | |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:05 - Oct 30 with 1825 views | GlasgowBlue |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:21 - Oct 30 by Herbivore |
Not sure it's that straightforward. They can't afford his release clause or wages and although they are a big club, the SPL can be a bit of a graveyard for managers. I know people point to Ange and Stevie G as examples of managers getting decent Prem jobs off the back of success in the SPL but I think those two have meant a few fingers have been burnt and I'm not sure it's a guaranteed route to a good Prem job these days. |
They can afford his wages and buyout clause. Whether they would want to is a different matter. |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:15 - Oct 30 with 1689 views | homer_123 |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:36 - Oct 30 by ArnieM |
Becuase Celtic are a far bigger club, and will offer Kieran a way into thd highest level for club football, the Champions League. I dont think Town will be offering thst any time soon, do you. I fintbeven think hes particularly worried about money strangely enough in the money and world of professional football. He's a multi- millionaire now, and financially secure, and can truly focus on a new venture at Celtic. Why wouldn't he take that opportunity?
All I ever wanted him to fi at Town was be more flexible. But hes his own man, and will do it his way. I respect that, even if I dont agree |
'Why wouldn't he take that opportunity?'
Celtic are going to struggle to afford KM in the first instance.
Celtic are not in a 'new venture' situation, they don't have the funds they once did, they aren't re-building from the ground up. KM won't have the kind of input there he has here.
Do you reckon he fancies working for Desmond after what he's come out and done?
Celtic are a bigger club, don't think any sane fan would question that - but they are a big club in a small pool.
As for flexibility - where do you think KM isn't flexible? | |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:17 - Oct 30 with 1666 views | homer_123 |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:39 - Oct 30 by leitrimblue |
Have spoke to a few Celtic supporters over last few days (I'm feck1n surrounded by um) including couple of season ticket holders and a lad who's brother plays for um.
None of um seem that impressed with the idea of Mckenna ( partly because they feel they deserve Pep or Arteta). They would prefer O'Neil. Bizarre enough.
They also incredibly unhappy with Desmond and blame him not Rodgers for this seasons failure.
Would say Mckenna would be wise to give the club a very wide berth. |
"...partly because they feel they deserve Pep or Arteta." - that sounds about right! | |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:35 - Oct 30 with 1472 views | homer_123 |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:44 - Oct 30 by Wallingford_Boy |
I think you could be right.
Not gone well for him here for the last 18 months, reputation going downhill from where it was 2 years ago. He will be winning every week in scotland, playing champions league.... you can kind of see the appeal!!
I hope he stays, but now is a very good time to be tempting him with a bigger club. |
Apart from the fact Celtic aren't in the Champions league and doing a Norwich in the Europa league! | |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:37 - Oct 30 with 1459 views | ArnieM |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:15 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
'Why wouldn't he take that opportunity?'
Celtic are going to struggle to afford KM in the first instance.
Celtic are not in a 'new venture' situation, they don't have the funds they once did, they aren't re-building from the ground up. KM won't have the kind of input there he has here.
Do you reckon he fancies working for Desmond after what he's come out and done?
Celtic are a bigger club, don't think any sane fan would question that - but they are a big club in a small pool.
As for flexibility - where do you think KM isn't flexible? |
Whatever us fans think might happen, the acid test will be if Celtic come calling…. It’s immaterial what we mere mortals think and articulate on social media . It’s about what HE decides to do. He will do what he wants to do. Ever since he’s been at Town, he’s been courted by other clubs, as you’d expect of the hot property that he is , ( strangely since he’s been at Town. I don’t think his name was ever mentioned when he was at Man Utd).
On the issue of flexibility, I’ve posted many times about and been lambasted on every occasion by the usual gaslighters on this forum,So won’t be going over old ground again, just receive yet more abuse. You can always look back on posts.
I just hope this once again manager in demand merriy-go- round doesn’t distract the team from Saturdays game preparations. Maybe he’ll put this speculation to bed in today’s press conference. What do you think?🤔 | |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:47 - Oct 30 with 1382 views | homer_123 |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:37 - Oct 30 by ArnieM |
Whatever us fans think might happen, the acid test will be if Celtic come calling…. It’s immaterial what we mere mortals think and articulate on social media . It’s about what HE decides to do. He will do what he wants to do. Ever since he’s been at Town, he’s been courted by other clubs, as you’d expect of the hot property that he is , ( strangely since he’s been at Town. I don’t think his name was ever mentioned when he was at Man Utd).
On the issue of flexibility, I’ve posted many times about and been lambasted on every occasion by the usual gaslighters on this forum,So won’t be going over old ground again, just receive yet more abuse. You can always look back on posts.
I just hope this once again manager in demand merriy-go- round doesn’t distract the team from Saturdays game preparations. Maybe he’ll put this speculation to bed in today’s press conference. What do you think?🤔 |
I don't think it's as cut and dried as people seem to think (the potential Celtic situ).
KM and his team as astute and he won't be leaving what he's got here lightly.
As for flexibility - we've chatted before. I genuinely find this an odd phrase to use to describe KM.
Under his tutelage, we have seen the following:
Back 3 with Davis bombing forward
Back 2 with Davis and Clarke getting forward
Luongo and Morsy covering the full back role
Davis playing as an inside forward
David playing as an outside forward
Greaves dribbling forward into the oppo's pen box!
Playing out from the back, inviting a press and playing through the lines
Playing out from the back and working the ball wide to Davis
We've gone longer, into channels for the Burns to run onto
We've seen long raking diagonal balls (Chappers and Egli)
We've hit Hirst and Delaps head to flick on
We've hit Hirst and Delaps feet to hold up
We've pressed incredibly high
We've set low blocks
I can go on but I won't.
So, I am not sure where this notion of KM not being flexible comes from. It is as simple as people seeing 4-2-3-1 on the team sheet and not understanding that how we actually can often be vastly different?
I've seen people post about why he doesn't play 3 in midfield. Last season in the Prem - the CAM was often much much closer to our two central midfielders and out wide players were also deeper, in effect a 4-5-1.
I think the only thing that can be placed on KM is that he doesn't play two 'up top'.
Other than that, he's hardly rigid and inflexible. [Post edited 30 Oct 14:55]
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 15:04 - Oct 30 with 1248 views | WeWereZombies |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:39 - Oct 30 by leitrimblue |
Have spoke to a few Celtic supporters over last few days (I'm feck1n surrounded by um) including couple of season ticket holders and a lad who's brother plays for um.
None of um seem that impressed with the idea of Mckenna ( partly because they feel they deserve Pep or Arteta). They would prefer O'Neil. Bizarre enough.
They also incredibly unhappy with Desmond and blame him not Rodgers for this seasons failure.
Would say Mckenna would be wise to give the club a very wide berth. |
I think the distaste for Desmond has been underestimated by just about every response I have seen on the threads linking McKenna to the Celtic job. I had a read of the owner's Wikipedia page a couple of nights ago:
'Desmond was appointed chairman of the board of Aer Rianta in 1990 under the Charles Haughey government, but resigned in October 1991 amid the scandal over the purchase of the Johnston Mooney & O'Brien site by Telecom Éireann.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermot_Desmond
Now I used to be managed by a Cork man who had worked in Haughey's office for a few months after he (my manager) qualified as a Certified Accountant. He had an opinion on that Taoisaech and I will say no more... [Post edited 30 Oct 18:23]
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 15:06 - Oct 30 with 1227 views | BlueBadger |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 13:36 - Oct 30 by ArnieM |
Becuase Celtic are a far bigger club, and will offer Kieran a way into thd highest level for club football, the Champions League. I dont think Town will be offering thst any time soon, do you. I fintbeven think hes particularly worried about money strangely enough in the money and world of professional football. He's a multi- millionaire now, and financially secure, and can truly focus on a new venture at Celtic. Why wouldn't he take that opportunity?
All I ever wanted him to fi at Town was be more flexible. But hes his own man, and will do it his way. I respect that, even if I dont agree |
You never got over Cookie leaving and KM doing a much better job with his players, did you? |  |
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| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 15:16 - Oct 30 with 1157 views | ArnieM |
| McKenna has pulled out of today's presser on 14:47 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
I don't think it's as cut and dried as people seem to think (the potential Celtic situ).
KM and his team as astute and he won't be leaving what he's got here lightly.
As for flexibility - we've chatted before. I genuinely find this an odd phrase to use to describe KM.
Under his tutelage, we have seen the following:
Back 3 with Davis bombing forward
Back 2 with Davis and Clarke getting forward
Luongo and Morsy covering the full back role
Davis playing as an inside forward
David playing as an outside forward
Greaves dribbling forward into the oppo's pen box!
Playing out from the back, inviting a press and playing through the lines
Playing out from the back and working the ball wide to Davis
We've gone longer, into channels for the Burns to run onto
We've seen long raking diagonal balls (Chappers and Egli)
We've hit Hirst and Delaps head to flick on
We've hit Hirst and Delaps feet to hold up
We've pressed incredibly high
We've set low blocks
I can go on but I won't.
So, I am not sure where this notion of KM not being flexible comes from. It is as simple as people seeing 4-2-3-1 on the team sheet and not understanding that how we actually can often be vastly different?
I've seen people post about why he doesn't play 3 in midfield. Last season in the Prem - the CAM was often much much closer to our two central midfielders and out wide players were also deeper, in effect a 4-5-1.
I think the only thing that can be placed on KM is that he doesn't play two 'up top'.
Other than that, he's hardly rigid and inflexible. [Post edited 30 Oct 14:55]
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Ok, I will confess I hadn’t seen that ( you’ve listed above). It’s not been that apparent to me when I’ve been at PR or watched us on tv for some of the away games. I will look more closely 8n future.
All I do see repeated is walking the ball out from defence and inviting opponents onto us to try and create that space in the second phase . But we all too often cause our own problems from that because we get caught out. I have seen the more longer balls forward from defence ( “ worst defender ever” O’Shea, is particularly good at that long ball), over recent games this is true, and I welcome that variation. Sometimes you just have to mix it up, but by and large I think we are slow bringing out of defence, and we always, once we regain possession of the ball, always look to pass it back to the CB’s to build from the back again. It was quite noticeable ( to me), that Walton was often trying to get the ball out quickly in his last 2 recent games , and yet no Town player was ever looking for that quick punt up the pitch or throw out. Because it’s not coached.
KMcK, is predictable in his substitutions, even down to the minute he will bring them on. And it’s alway like for like, never a change of tactic, even when we are not creating anything with the approach we’ve adopted the whole game. I would also question his willingness to play players in their optimal positions. It will be interesting to see if he continues with Nunez in the #10 role. Why did he never / rarely play Chaplin in his obviously best role more frequently , when we couldn’t create anything up front.?
I’m a big Hirst fan,( his game is more than just scoring goals), but why hasn’t he tried Azon when it’s clear Hirst is struggling for some reason, or started the last two games with the finishing forward line from games prior to that, when they have appeared far more mobile, aggressive and with pace and more of a goal threat? Why does he make almost complete team changes? Far too many every game, and that for me is why continuity is lacking. At some point surely he has to stick with the majority of the team for a few games to allow that understanding to develop .
These are only my observations. They may not be right, but I don’t think I’m the only one questioning his approach now. Our form this season was always going to be affected by a near complete squad overhaul, again, granted not all of his making. But the overhaul following promotion to the PL, was it really needed to that level, and so ruthless? Our squad for the PL season was so lacking in overall experience, which he essentially just benched or left out completely. Little wonder so many chose to leave.
If he does decide to leave I will wish him well and good luck, but we have this every season since he’s joined us, and I’m personally cheesed off with it now. If he’s going to go, just go, so we can move on and get another manager in. The club really is bigger than any individual, and that includes Ashton. | |
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