| I don't know the train lines on 10:50 - Nov 2 with 1161 views | Cheltenham_Blue |   One of the things I love about this board is the level of self policing. And the latest update from the BTP on the perpetrators backs up why it's so important that we collectively call things out.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 11:23 - Nov 2 with 1052 views | Mullet |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 10:50 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |   One of the things I love about this board is the level of self policing. And the latest update from the BTP on the perpetrators backs up why it's so important that we collectively call things out.  |  
 
  I’m assuming we had someone make an arse of themselves by jumping to conclusions?         Lots of scummy bastards all over twitter looking silly this morning. The fact we are worried about the race of who did something before the victims and heroes is depressing. The racists who constantly peddle this stuff really damage this country.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 11:33 - Nov 2 with 1010 views | Whos_blue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 11:23 - Nov 2 by Mullet |   I’m assuming we had someone make an arse of themselves by jumping to conclusions?         Lots of scummy bastards all over twitter looking silly this morning. The fact we are worried about the race of who did something before the victims and heroes is depressing. The racists who constantly peddle this stuff really damage this country.  |  
 
  One moron raised their ugly head but was soon despatched.  |   |  
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 11:43 - Nov 2 with 975 views | Whos_blue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 09:27 - Nov 2 by Mullet |   Sounds like there were lots of heroes all round. Passengers saying one old boy took a stabbing to protect a young girl.         9/10 with life threatening injuries. Right after the Synagogue and Wayne Broadhurst murder. Zia Yusef is on LK's show this morning making political capital out of it already.  |  
 
  Just read your last sentance.        Reform are vile. There. I've said it.  |   |  
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 11:48 - Nov 2 with 959 views | FrimleyBlue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 11:43 - Nov 2 by Whos_blue |   Just read your last sentance.        Reform are vile. There. I've said it.  |  
 
  There's probably a host of reasons why this would never work, and I apologise in advance as I don't really know alot about politics        but  wouldn't it be better if the countrys 'king' decides who is in parliament and there are no other parties        No petty arguments,  no ridiculous 'promises' just to try and get in power.         Everything about politics seems as fked as everything else and alot of the 'hate' being brewed in this country imo is because of parties trying to out the others.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 12:34 - Nov 2 with 891 views | NedPlimpton |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 11:48 - Nov 2 by FrimleyBlue |   There's probably a host of reasons why this would never work, and I apologise in advance as I don't really know alot about politics        but  wouldn't it be better if the countrys 'king' decides who is in parliament and there are no other parties        No petty arguments,  no ridiculous 'promises' just to try and get in power.         Everything about politics seems as fked as everything else and alot of the 'hate' being brewed in this country imo is because of parties trying to out the others.  |  
 
  Would a dictatorship led by the head of the family that gave £12m of tax payers money to silence a victim of sex trafficking be better than a democratically elected Reform govt        These really are desperate times!  |   |   |   |  
 | I don't know the train lines  on 12:35 - Nov 2 with 886 views | FrimleyBlue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 12:34 - Nov 2 by NedPlimpton |   Would a dictatorship led by the head of the family that gave £12m of tax payers money to silence a victim of sex trafficking be better than a democratically elected Reform govt        These really are desperate times!  |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 12:37 - Nov 2 with 870 views | bluelagos |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 11:48 - Nov 2 by FrimleyBlue |   There's probably a host of reasons why this would never work, and I apologise in advance as I don't really know alot about politics        but  wouldn't it be better if the countrys 'king' decides who is in parliament and there are no other parties        No petty arguments,  no ridiculous 'promises' just to try and get in power.         Everything about politics seems as fked as everything else and alot of the 'hate' being brewed in this country imo is because of parties trying to out the others.  |  
 
  "I don't really know alot about politics"         Wise words Frimmers.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 12:41 - Nov 2 with 856 views | mellowblue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 10:46 - Nov 2 by TNBlue |   Just watching police update on Beeb now. Perpetrators were 2 black British nationals. Not being treated as terrorism related.  |  
 
  Ironically, they don't need to be terrorists to inflict terror.  |   |   |   |  
 | I don't know the train lines  on 12:56 - Nov 2 with 806 views | Ryorry |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 12:35 - Nov 2 by FrimleyBlue |   That's a very good point!  |  
 
  Bloody hell, I thought you were joking.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines on 13:11 - Nov 2 with 768 views | DJR |   In other news, I caught trains to and from the game yesterday and nothing happened.        Of course, I am not trying to downplay the awfulness of what happened but the way the media and politician focus on crime does tend to distort things and frighten people.        It also causes a disconnect between people's perceptions of crime nationally and what they experience locally. And it fails to take into account the fact that rates of crime are much lower than they were 30 or 40 years ago.        To take an example, there was a caller on LBC earlier stating that all sorts of crime were out of control, and complaining that it took 8 minutes for the police to arrive at the scene, which is completely bonkers.        The problem though is that crime is a trigger issue, and many politicians play into this.    [Post edited 2 Nov 13:15]
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:17 - Nov 2 with 727 views | bluelagos |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:11 - Nov 2 by DJR |   In other news, I caught trains to and from the game yesterday and nothing happened.        Of course, I am not trying to downplay the awfulness of what happened but the way the media and politician focus on crime does tend to distort things and frighten people.        It also causes a disconnect between people's perceptions of crime nationally and what they experience locally. And it fails to take into account the fact that rates of crime are much lower than they were 30 or 40 years ago.        To take an example, there was a caller on LBC earlier stating that all sorts of crime were out of control, and complaining that it took 8 minutes for the police to arrive at the scene, which is completely bonkers.        The problem though is that crime is a trigger issue, and many politicians play into this.    [Post edited 2 Nov 13:15]
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  It took eight minutes for them to get to two knife wielding suspects on a fast moving train that was between stations...what exactly was the caller hoping for them to do?           Land on it's roof ffs?    Think someone has been watching too many James Bond films.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:21 - Nov 2 with 713 views | Cheltenham_Blue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:11 - Nov 2 by DJR |   In other news, I caught trains to and from the game yesterday and nothing happened.        Of course, I am not trying to downplay the awfulness of what happened but the way the media and politician focus on crime does tend to distort things and frighten people.        It also causes a disconnect between people's perceptions of crime nationally and what they experience locally. And it fails to take into account the fact that rates of crime are much lower than they were 30 or 40 years ago.        To take an example, there was a caller on LBC earlier stating that all sorts of crime were out of control, and complaining that it took 8 minutes for the police to arrive at the scene, which is completely bonkers.        The problem though is that crime is a trigger issue, and many politicians play into this.    [Post edited 2 Nov 13:15]
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  I've spent my morning replying to the Likes of Rupert Lowe and Ant Middleton who all peaked too soon before the news broke that both suspects are British Nationals.        Ant Middleton is a particularly dangerous individual, he implied nowhere is safe, and encouraged people to 'Arm yourselves as legally as you can'  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:23 - Nov 2 with 699 views | TNBlue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 12:41 - Nov 2 by mellowblue |   Ironically, they don't need to be terrorists to inflict terror.  |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:27 - Nov 2 with 675 views | eireblue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:21 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |   I've spent my morning replying to the Likes of Rupert Lowe and Ant Middleton who all peaked too soon before the news broke that both suspects are British Nationals.        Ant Middleton is a particularly dangerous individual, he implied nowhere is safe, and encouraged people to 'Arm yourselves as legally as you can'  |  
 
  Yeah, that’s….well….amusing…..isn’t quite the correct the word….        Reform U.K. types,         What do we want….people to arm themselves…….and……more stop and search…….        Ummm…..  |   |   |   |  
 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:33 - Nov 2 with 651 views | Ryorry |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:21 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |   I've spent my morning replying to the Likes of Rupert Lowe and Ant Middleton who all peaked too soon before the news broke that both suspects are British Nationals.        Ant Middleton is a particularly dangerous individual, he implied nowhere is safe, and encouraged people to 'Arm yourselves as legally as you can'  |  
 
  Is he the same Ant Middleton as the former SAS instructor who always advised trainees and wannabes that it was crucial to use caution and cool heads before deciding to engage? Before he got sacked for his personal conduct behind the cameras.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:36 - Nov 2 with 642 views | Chris_ITFC |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 10:46 - Nov 2 by TNBlue |   Just watching police update on Beeb now. Perpetrators were 2 black British nationals. Not being treated as terrorism related.  |  
 
  Travelling by train from the rural counties to London, on a Saturday night, carrying knives.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:40 - Nov 2 with 617 views | Cheltenham_Blue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:23 - Nov 2 by TNBlue |   Not sure what your point is?  |  
 
  I think he means that they don't have to fit the current 'terrorist stereotype' they can be 'normal' British nationals and still terrorise people.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:41 - Nov 2 with 606 views | Cheltenham_Blue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:33 - Nov 2 by Ryorry |   Is he the same Ant Middleton as the former SAS instructor who always advised trainees and wannabes that it was crucial to use caution and cool heads before deciding to engage? Before he got sacked for his personal conduct behind the cameras.  |  
 
  The very same. Now campaigning to be London mayor.      [Post edited 2 Nov 13:43]
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:44 - Nov 2 with 590 views | djgooder |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:11 - Nov 2 by DJR |   In other news, I caught trains to and from the game yesterday and nothing happened.        Of course, I am not trying to downplay the awfulness of what happened but the way the media and politician focus on crime does tend to distort things and frighten people.        It also causes a disconnect between people's perceptions of crime nationally and what they experience locally. And it fails to take into account the fact that rates of crime are much lower than they were 30 or 40 years ago.        To take an example, there was a caller on LBC earlier stating that all sorts of crime were out of control, and complaining that it took 8 minutes for the police to arrive at the scene, which is completely bonkers.        The problem though is that crime is a trigger issue, and many politicians play into this.    [Post edited 2 Nov 13:15]
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  Thing is it took 8 minutes from the time of the first 999 call to the men being in custody.  I am of course no expert but that sounds impressive to me.  Well done to the police.        I am Huntingdon based and was returning from my parents in the fens.  It was annoying the roads were closed.  Obvious I soon realised my frustrations were of little consequence as clearly other people were having a much worse time of it.        Thing is albeit horrendous people need to not be scared to use public transport or be in public spaces.  I did have the conversation with my wife saying it could easily have been us in the train.  Doesn’t bear thinking about.  |   |   |   |  
 | I don't know the train lines  on 13:46 - Nov 2 with 580 views | Ryorry |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:41 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |   The very same. Now campaigning to be London mayor.      [Post edited 2 Nov 13:43]
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  Not one who follows his own advice then!        Thanks for the info.  |   |  
 
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 14:04 - Nov 2 with 532 views | FrimleyBlue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 13:44 - Nov 2 by djgooder |   Thing is it took 8 minutes from the time of the first 999 call to the men being in custody.  I am of course no expert but that sounds impressive to me.  Well done to the police.        I am Huntingdon based and was returning from my parents in the fens.  It was annoying the roads were closed.  Obvious I soon realised my frustrations were of little consequence as clearly other people were having a much worse time of it.        Thing is albeit horrendous people need to not be scared to use public transport or be in public spaces.  I did have the conversation with my wife saying it could easily have been us in the train.  Doesn’t bear thinking about.  |  
 
  I do wonder if it was a potentially known act as 8 minutes is incredibly quick imo and I did hear on SN that they had trained last week on this sort of situation happening.  So maybe they knew of the potential act but didnt know where? [Post edited 2 Nov 14:16]
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 14:15 - Nov 2 with 495 views | lowhouseblue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 10:46 - Nov 2 by TNBlue |   Just watching police update on Beeb now. Perpetrators were 2 black British nationals. Not being treated as terrorism related.  |  
 
  no reason at all to doubt the police conclusion on this - they have decided quickly and made a clear statement so the evidence must be decisive. but if it isn't terrorism it's hard to understand. a psychotic incident involving two people seems unlikely - both are arrested on suspicion of attempted murder.  |   |  
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 14:18 - Nov 2 with 483 views | Cheltenham_Blue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 14:15 - Nov 2 by lowhouseblue |   no reason at all to doubt the police conclusion on this - they have decided quickly and made a clear statement so the evidence must be decisive. but if it isn't terrorism it's hard to understand. a psychotic incident involving two people seems unlikely - both are arrested on suspicion of attempted murder.  |  
 
  No doubt a motive will be revealed at some point. Or, no motive at all will be apparent and it will be permanent residence in Broadmoor [Post edited 2 Nov 14:18]
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 | I don't know the train lines  on 14:19 - Nov 2 with 457 views | lowhouseblue |  
 | I don't know the train lines on 14:18 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |   No doubt a motive will be revealed at some point. Or, no motive at all will be apparent and it will be permanent residence in Broadmoor [Post edited 2 Nov 14:18]
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