| I don't know the train lines on 14:25 - Nov 2 with 963 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:19 - Nov 2 by lowhouseblue |
quite. but it's the two attackers which seems very unusual outside of terrorism. |
Not really, I get your point, but there are a number of instances of so-called joint enterprise - Columbine is just one that springs to mind.
People, and I'm speaking generally, are so angry currently that two people together talking about how they've been wronged by society etc etc etc. God only knows what causes that 'snap' but it does happen. |  |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:30 - Nov 2 with 930 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| I don't know the train lines on 13:11 - Nov 2 by DJR |
In other news, I caught trains to and from the game yesterday and nothing happened.
Of course, I am not trying to downplay the awfulness of what happened but the way the media and politician focus on crime does tend to distort things and frighten people.
It also causes a disconnect between people's perceptions of crime nationally and what they experience locally. And it fails to take into account the fact that rates of crime are much lower than they were 30 or 40 years ago.
To take an example, there was a caller on LBC earlier stating that all sorts of crime were out of control, and complaining that it took 8 minutes for the police to arrive at the scene, which is completely bonkers.
The problem though is that crime is a trigger issue, and many politicians play into this. [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 13:15]
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Your first sentence is very distasteful and insensitive after a major incident like this. Especially when it’s also untrue when related to knife crime statistics. |  |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:31 - Nov 2 with 911 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| I don't know the train lines on 13:21 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I've spent my morning replying to the Likes of Rupert Lowe and Ant Middleton who all peaked too soon before the news broke that both suspects are British Nationals.
Ant Middleton is a particularly dangerous individual, he implied nowhere is safe, and encouraged people to 'Arm yourselves as legally as you can' |
It's all so depressing as it all adds fuel to their 'argument' and what's worse is that you can only reply on the platform that is owned by an individual who is inciting this sort of violence. Governments really need to get a grip of all these media outlets, they're destroying communities. |  | | |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:36 - Nov 2 with 868 views | Zx1988 |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:31 - Nov 2 by FromReuserWithLove |
It's all so depressing as it all adds fuel to their 'argument' and what's worse is that you can only reply on the platform that is owned by an individual who is inciting this sort of violence. Governments really need to get a grip of all these media outlets, they're destroying communities. |
Doubly depressing is the fact that, at the same time as decrying it all, they're sat there rubbing their grubby hands with glee, knowing that we're all another step closer to having Führage and his ilk in power. |  |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:37 - Nov 2 with 843 views | lowhouseblue |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:25 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Not really, I get your point, but there are a number of instances of so-called joint enterprise - Columbine is just one that springs to mind.
People, and I'm speaking generally, are so angry currently that two people together talking about how they've been wronged by society etc etc etc. God only knows what causes that 'snap' but it does happen. |
columbine was very unusual even in the usa where such mass attacks are sadly common. typically they are lone things. and things like this are not just about anger - they generally involve an element of psychosis and, in the usa, the intent to end up dead. so two people being in that state and finding each other seems very unusual. this isn't to deny the possibility, or to deny that the police were right to rule out terrorism. just lots of questions that the police / psychiatrists / courts are going to need to answer. |  |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:45 - Nov 2 with 824 views | Trequartista |
| I don't know the train lines on 13:11 - Nov 2 by DJR |
In other news, I caught trains to and from the game yesterday and nothing happened.
Of course, I am not trying to downplay the awfulness of what happened but the way the media and politician focus on crime does tend to distort things and frighten people.
It also causes a disconnect between people's perceptions of crime nationally and what they experience locally. And it fails to take into account the fact that rates of crime are much lower than they were 30 or 40 years ago.
To take an example, there was a caller on LBC earlier stating that all sorts of crime were out of control, and complaining that it took 8 minutes for the police to arrive at the scene, which is completely bonkers.
The problem though is that crime is a trigger issue, and many politicians play into this. [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 13:15]
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I agree that reports on these incidents distorts reality in the same way say watching a soap with five murders per year within one post code distorts reality.
But on the other hand it would be extremely strange if this incident was not at the top of the news, and/or politicians were not commenting on it. |  |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:49 - Nov 2 with 793 views | DJR |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:30 - Nov 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Your first sentence is very distasteful and insensitive after a major incident like this. Especially when it’s also untrue when related to knife crime statistics. |
The statistics about hospital admissions related to assault by a sharp object show that there were 4,647 admissions in 2010/11 and 3,494 in 2025/26.
https://researchbriefings.file [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 14:50]
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:49 - Nov 2 with 781 views | soupytwist |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:04 - Nov 2 by FrimleyBlue |
I do wonder if it was a potentially known act as 8 minutes is incredibly quick imo and I did hear on SN that they had trained last week on this sort of situation happening. So maybe they knew of the potential act but didnt know where? [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 14:16]
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As someone mentioned earlier on the thread, Cambs Police and Fire and Rescue HQs are literally across the road from Huntingdon police station. Once they knew the train could be stopped at Huntingdon station emergency services would be waiting.
A bit of luck that the incident happened where it did and that those responsible for where the train was going acted according to their training and with professionalism. |  | | |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:50 - Nov 2 with 776 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:19 - Nov 2 by lowhouseblue |
quite. but it's the two attackers which seems very unusual outside of terrorism. |
The Police are using the current definition of terrorism (in UK law), which this does not (currently) fit. That's the definition they have to use for clarity/consistency
The police have been very careful to insert the word currently too, as it is clearly an evolving picture. |  | | |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:50 - Nov 2 with 773 views | Trequartista |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:19 - Nov 2 by lowhouseblue |
quite. but it's the two attackers which seems very unusual outside of terrorism. |
Agreed, as soon as it becomes two people, then it seems to be a planned or pre-meditated attack rather than one person going berserk.
However, the eye-witnesses speak of only one person with the knife. I wonder if the "accomplice" was not part of the attack, or even had any idea it was going to happen, but was arrested as they were with the perpetrator. | |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:52 - Nov 2 with 755 views | The_Major |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:36 - Nov 2 by Zx1988 |
Doubly depressing is the fact that, at the same time as decrying it all, they're sat there rubbing their grubby hands with glee, knowing that we're all another step closer to having Führage and his ilk in power. |
It's a perfect storm. A government that is too scared to bring in Leveson 2 because they're terrified of what some swivel eyed loon will write about them in the Mail.
Too scared to bring the Tech giants to heel because the Mango Mussolini in the White House won't like it. (Incidentally, has there been any comment from them about the threats made to Nigeria yesterday, considering it's a Commonwealth country? Of course not)
Broadcast media too cowed not to put Farage et al on the spot with a few exceptions (Victoria Derbyshire on the BBC, James O'brien and the News Agents on LBC to name some).
Vast swathes of the public just assuming what is written on Facebook or in the press must be gospel, and either too lazy, or unable, to say, "Hang on, is that really right" and seek out verification.
It is an utter shambles. |  | | |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:53 - Nov 2 with 752 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:45 - Nov 2 by Trequartista |
I agree that reports on these incidents distorts reality in the same way say watching a soap with five murders per year within one post code distorts reality.
But on the other hand it would be extremely strange if this incident was not at the top of the news, and/or politicians were not commenting on it. |
Considering there are still people fighting for theirs lives in hospital the post is poor form.
Especially when it’s a train line I expect half this board would have traveled on at some point. Of course we are glad that a knife wielding maniac wasn’t on his train trying to kill people but that wasn’t the reality for a very unlucky few.
I can’t imagine after a school shooting someone saying, in other news my kids came home fine today and there are 130,000 schools in America so the odds are in our favor really.
Also on the subject matter knife crime is a real problem in many communities in the UK and affecting a lot of young people, it has also seen some major spikes over the last 15 years, multiple times. | |
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:54 - Nov 2 with 732 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:52 - Nov 2 by The_Major |
It's a perfect storm. A government that is too scared to bring in Leveson 2 because they're terrified of what some swivel eyed loon will write about them in the Mail.
Too scared to bring the Tech giants to heel because the Mango Mussolini in the White House won't like it. (Incidentally, has there been any comment from them about the threats made to Nigeria yesterday, considering it's a Commonwealth country? Of course not)
Broadcast media too cowed not to put Farage et al on the spot with a few exceptions (Victoria Derbyshire on the BBC, James O'brien and the News Agents on LBC to name some).
Vast swathes of the public just assuming what is written on Facebook or in the press must be gospel, and either too lazy, or unable, to say, "Hang on, is that really right" and seek out verification.
It is an utter shambles. |
'Mango Mussolini'
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| I don't know the train lines on 14:55 - Nov 2 with 725 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:49 - Nov 2 by soupytwist |
As someone mentioned earlier on the thread, Cambs Police and Fire and Rescue HQs are literally across the road from Huntingdon police station. Once they knew the train could be stopped at Huntingdon station emergency services would be waiting.
A bit of luck that the incident happened where it did and that those responsible for where the train was going acted according to their training and with professionalism. |
It sounds like a phenomenal response, both from the train staff and the authorities, so well done to all those who helped make this less serious than it could have been.
And there’s been some good news that several of those thought to be in a very bad way are now out of hospital. Two are still in hospital with life-threatening injuries; hopefully they too will pull through and be out soon. |  |
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| I don't know the train lines on 15:00 - Nov 2 with 704 views | DJR |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:45 - Nov 2 by Trequartista |
I agree that reports on these incidents distorts reality in the same way say watching a soap with five murders per year within one post code distorts reality.
But on the other hand it would be extremely strange if this incident was not at the top of the news, and/or politicians were not commenting on it. |
Of course it will be at the top of the news agenda but my concern is that the way that crime and immigration is portrayed leads to the following top-rated comment on the Mail online new article (with 7,800 up votes and 97 downvotes).
"Not Safe on public transport
Not safe walking a dog
Not safe going to concert
Not safe going to dance school
Welcome to the UK 🇬🇧 the rot is spreading fast"
NB: the GB represents the Union Jack. And I don't remember comments such as this occurring when the dog walker in Brantham was killed. [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 15:05]
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| I don't know the train lines on 15:01 - Nov 2 with 700 views | TNBlue |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:53 - Nov 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Considering there are still people fighting for theirs lives in hospital the post is poor form.
Especially when it’s a train line I expect half this board would have traveled on at some point. Of course we are glad that a knife wielding maniac wasn’t on his train trying to kill people but that wasn’t the reality for a very unlucky few.
I can’t imagine after a school shooting someone saying, in other news my kids came home fine today and there are 130,000 schools in America so the odds are in our favor really.
Also on the subject matter knife crime is a real problem in many communities in the UK and affecting a lot of young people, it has also seen some major spikes over the last 15 years, multiple times. |
Its practically impossible to control knife sales as they're a household implement and therefore easy for anyone to get hold of one. Tougher sentencing for being caught with one perhaps? Mandatory 5 year prison sentence for being caught in possession. Would that stop random attacks by mentally disturbed people though? Its tough. As someone born in the 70s, I dont seem to remember knife crime being such a problem decades ago but something that has become more prolific in the last 20 years. I might be wrong and just have that impression. | | | |
| I don't know the train lines on 15:03 - Nov 2 with 682 views | Zx1988 |
I saw this on Facebook yesterday, before this all happened:
I can't see the further justification, but it's interesting timing if 'The Right' did indeed believe that this was the weekend it was all going to kick off.
As much as it could well be lone nutters doing these sorts of things, there are certainly plenty of vested interests behind Führage et al who have an awful lot to gain from a Reform government. Not to mention Musk's seeming obsession with a race war breaking out in the UK. | |
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| I don't know the train lines on 15:12 - Nov 2 with 639 views | Facefacts |
I have no knowledge of what happened and am not following the updates..
.. but I do use LNER between Peterborough & London and I'm always worried/uneasy/uncomfortable when a passenger near me is given an on the spot fine for not having a valid ticket, as they can get very angry.
Not saying that happened here, as I just don't know. |  | | |
| I don't know the train lines on 15:13 - Nov 2 with 631 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:49 - Nov 2 by DJR |
The statistics about hospital admissions related to assault by a sharp object show that there were 4,647 admissions in 2010/11 and 3,494 in 2025/26.
https://researchbriefings.file [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 14:50]
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And between the years you’ve cited (which are very different than your post) there have been homicide spikes when it comes to knife crime in the UK. | |
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| I don't know the train lines on 15:16 - Nov 2 with 616 views | djgooder |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:04 - Nov 2 by FrimleyBlue |
I do wonder if it was a potentially known act as 8 minutes is incredibly quick imo and I did hear on SN that they had trained last week on this sort of situation happening. So maybe they knew of the potential act but didnt know where? [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 14:16]
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I hadn’t read that but yes sound plausible.
For 8 mins the armed police would surely have had to have been sat ready?
If you are right, are people plotting this stuff online? Crazy. You’d think they’d keep it quiet to avoid detection. I would . Not that I’d ever do such a thing of course. I wonder if the whole truth will come out.
Of course might all be a coincidence. |  | | |
| I don't know the train lines on 15:18 - Nov 2 with 603 views | mellowblue |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:25 - Nov 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Not really, I get your point, but there are a number of instances of so-called joint enterprise - Columbine is just one that springs to mind.
People, and I'm speaking generally, are so angry currently that two people together talking about how they've been wronged by society etc etc etc. God only knows what causes that 'snap' but it does happen. |
The Washington DC sniper murders is another example of 2 man joint enterprise. Driver with thh sniper operating from inside the car boot. Amazingly it is now 23 years ago. | | | |
| I don't know the train lines on 15:21 - Nov 2 with 585 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| I don't know the train lines on 15:16 - Nov 2 by djgooder |
I hadn’t read that but yes sound plausible.
For 8 mins the armed police would surely have had to have been sat ready?
If you are right, are people plotting this stuff online? Crazy. You’d think they’d keep it quiet to avoid detection. I would . Not that I’d ever do such a thing of course. I wonder if the whole truth will come out.
Of course might all be a coincidence. |
That’s just pure speculation, isn’t the Cambridgeshire police HQ in Huntington? You’d probably be surprised how quick any major county police force could mobilize in a major incident response. | |
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| I don't know the train lines on 15:26 - Nov 2 with 554 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I don't know the train lines on 14:04 - Nov 2 by FrimleyBlue |
I do wonder if it was a potentially known act as 8 minutes is incredibly quick imo and I did hear on SN that they had trained last week on this sort of situation happening. So maybe they knew of the potential act but didnt know where? [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 14:16]
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Dangerous, nonsense speculation.
Most train stations, or at least this one, are in built-up urban areas. Exactly where armed police officers would be working or sat up.
At the speeds they drive, you can travel a long way in 8 minutes (just like a train). Brilliant response, but completely logical that those 2 modes of transport would intercept in speedy fashion. |  |
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| I don't know the train lines on 15:28 - Nov 2 with 539 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I don't know the train lines on 15:16 - Nov 2 by djgooder |
I hadn’t read that but yes sound plausible.
For 8 mins the armed police would surely have had to have been sat ready?
If you are right, are people plotting this stuff online? Crazy. You’d think they’d keep it quiet to avoid detection. I would . Not that I’d ever do such a thing of course. I wonder if the whole truth will come out.
Of course might all be a coincidence. |
See above.
Armed police are always prepped to respond swiftly. It’s not a coincidence - it’s absolutely fundamental to the role. | |
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| I don't know the train lines on 15:28 - Nov 2 with 536 views | soupytwist |
| I don't know the train lines on 15:16 - Nov 2 by djgooder |
I hadn’t read that but yes sound plausible.
For 8 mins the armed police would surely have had to have been sat ready?
If you are right, are people plotting this stuff online? Crazy. You’d think they’d keep it quiet to avoid detection. I would . Not that I’d ever do such a thing of course. I wonder if the whole truth will come out.
Of course might all be a coincidence. |
Please read the thread before adding credence to baseless claims that this was some kind of false flag operation.
It was pointed out twice on this thread prior to your post that the Cambridgeshire police HQ is very close to Huntingdon station. As is the Cambridgeshire Fire and Rescue Service HQ. A mere 6 minutes drive according to Google Maps, maybe less if you've got your blue lights and siren going and you're not concerned about sticking to the speed limit. [Post edited 2 Nov 2025 15:30]
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