| In financial terms 12:49 - Nov 14 with 2391 views | FrimleyBlue |
How big is our training ground spend in comparison to other clubs elite projects? |  |
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| In financial terms on 12:52 - Nov 14 with 2367 views | Pique |
Leicester spent £100 million on theirs, apparently, so it's not right at the top end. But it does seem par for the course for a middle ranking Premier League team (or a club with aspirations to be one). |  | | |
| In financial terms on 12:55 - Nov 14 with 2346 views | MrPotatoHead |
Carrington cost Man United £50m but that was a redevelopment rather than new build.
Etihad training complex and Newcastle rumoured to be £200m projects. Spurs £120m. Leicester (Charnwood) £100m and that's meant to be the absolute b0llocks.
I would guess ours is closer to Bournemouth's new one which cost £32m apparently, or perhaps Bristol City is a good benchmark as Ashton was of course behind that one. That was reported to be £20m. I wouldn't be surprised if ours is in that sort of range, not world class but will certainly be top 30 in the country and sustainable for Premier League life. |  | | |
| In financial terms on 13:21 - Nov 14 with 2231 views | Illinoisblue |
Look at Bournemouth. 32million. (Should have spent it on their joke of a “stadium”) [Post edited 14 Nov 13:38]
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| In financial terms on 13:21 - Nov 14 with 2233 views | trncbluearmy |
£30m development on owned land utilising some of the excisting facilities, gotta
put it in the £50m plus bracket
But reading between the lines there's some top notch gear in the building and the pitches are as good as you can get. |  | | |
| In financial terms on 13:25 - Nov 14 with 2199 views | Churchman |
| In financial terms on 12:55 - Nov 14 by MrPotatoHead |
Carrington cost Man United £50m but that was a redevelopment rather than new build.
Etihad training complex and Newcastle rumoured to be £200m projects. Spurs £120m. Leicester (Charnwood) £100m and that's meant to be the absolute b0llocks.
I would guess ours is closer to Bournemouth's new one which cost £32m apparently, or perhaps Bristol City is a good benchmark as Ashton was of course behind that one. That was reported to be £20m. I wouldn't be surprised if ours is in that sort of range, not world class but will certainly be top 30 in the country and sustainable for Premier League life. |
I think cost against what is produced must depend on what was there in the first place. In addition to the new build, the old facilities are being refurbed and used which I presume is cheaper than building from scratch?
I really don’t know, but when complete I’d be very interested in how it compares to the others. Not Man City, Arsenal etc, but peer clubs. |  | | |
| In financial terms on 13:28 - Nov 14 with 2186 views | homer_123 |
The more important question (and to one of Ashtons points), it's not the spend, it's what it provides and produces.
His job is to deliver the infrastructure for the long term stability of the Club, the investment starts to deal with the 'no excuses' aspects, building that winning mentality.
But - what it MUST provide for a Club like us, is players that can go through the pathway to first team that we can profit from. And by profit that is two-fold.
1. They contribute on the pitch
2. They provide high re-sale value [Post edited 14 Nov 13:51]
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| In financial terms on 13:48 - Nov 14 with 2084 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| In financial terms on 13:21 - Nov 14 by trncbluearmy |
£30m development on owned land utilising some of the excisting facilities, gotta
put it in the £50m plus bracket
But reading between the lines there's some top notch gear in the building and the pitches are as good as you can get. |
Was it 10 full size pitches, all hybrid?
That's going to be £10-15M alone. I can definitely see it being in the £50M+ bracket |  | | |
| In financial terms on 13:49 - Nov 14 with 2084 views | MattinLondon |
| In financial terms on 13:21 - Nov 14 by Illinoisblue |
Look at Bournemouth. 32million. (Should have spent it on their joke of a “stadium”) [Post edited 14 Nov 13:38]
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To be fair they are doing both.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3ded84peo.amp
Probably is a sensible to improve player facilities first before adding to their ground. |  | | |
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| In financial terms on 13:52 - Nov 14 with 2055 views | homer_123 |
| In financial terms on 13:48 - Nov 14 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Was it 10 full size pitches, all hybrid?
That's going to be £10-15M alone. I can definitely see it being in the £50M+ bracket |
Fully stitched pitches. | |
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| In financial terms on 14:19 - Nov 14 with 1932 views | Vic |
Shirley it's impossible to tell without knowing what it's costing. We can speculate but we know few details and with MA not exactly known for underselling things I think we'll have to wait and see. |  |
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| In financial terms on 14:21 - Nov 14 with 1924 views | glasso |
Yeah I was going to say, when you're a Prem club it's almost pointless to sort out the ground. Very little of your income actually comes from there.
A training ground that helps you save £50m on transfers or makes you £50m in transfers is where it's at.
That's the modern game, innit. | | | |
| In financial terms on 14:38 - Nov 14 with 1847 views | Basuco |
It is not how big the spend now is, it shows how poor our facilities were before game changer took over. |  | | |
| In financial terms on 14:56 - Nov 14 with 1764 views | MrPotatoHead |
| In financial terms on 13:25 - Nov 14 by Churchman |
I think cost against what is produced must depend on what was there in the first place. In addition to the new build, the old facilities are being refurbed and used which I presume is cheaper than building from scratch?
I really don’t know, but when complete I’d be very interested in how it compares to the others. Not Man City, Arsenal etc, but peer clubs. |
At a guess I would think it will probably sit somewhere not in the top 10 in England, but on a par or better than anything outside of that. Probably not a dissimilar ranking to where we aspire to be as a club really, which sort of makes sense. | | | |
| In financial terms on 15:09 - Nov 14 with 1722 views | MrPotatoHead |
| In financial terms on 13:28 - Nov 14 by homer_123 |
The more important question (and to one of Ashtons points), it's not the spend, it's what it provides and produces.
His job is to deliver the infrastructure for the long term stability of the Club, the investment starts to deal with the 'no excuses' aspects, building that winning mentality.
But - what it MUST provide for a Club like us, is players that can go through the pathway to first team that we can profit from. And by profit that is two-fold.
1. They contribute on the pitch
2. They provide high re-sale value [Post edited 14 Nov 13:51]
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The operational value that can be extracted is one thing, I think there's a few points to that. 1 is increasing the appeal to prospective professionals and academy talent, as well as staff, to want to join at all. The other is giving them and the 1st team better tools, medical, recovery, analytics all of that good stuff to try to tip that extra 1%, hopefully to develop more talent ourselves. 1 big ticket through that academy could pay for this project. I think there's also a softer factor, dress smart think smart and all that. The optics of such a professional set up will likely make people behave in a way that's befitting of their surroundings and drive higher standards, that's human nature.
The other consideration for the owners is no doubt about building enterprise value. If they want to sell up at some point and realise the best possible valuation a few things likely need to be true. League status is obviously one, but top grade facilities will go some way to that too. | | | |
| In financial terms on 15:47 - Nov 14 with 1598 views | backwaywhen |
| In financial terms on 13:28 - Nov 14 by homer_123 |
The more important question (and to one of Ashtons points), it's not the spend, it's what it provides and produces.
His job is to deliver the infrastructure for the long term stability of the Club, the investment starts to deal with the 'no excuses' aspects, building that winning mentality.
But - what it MUST provide for a Club like us, is players that can go through the pathway to first team that we can profit from. And by profit that is two-fold.
1. They contribute on the pitch
2. They provide high re-sale value [Post edited 14 Nov 13:51]
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You will not get no 2without no 1 that’s for sure . | | | |
| In financial terms on 15:59 - Nov 14 with 1560 views | MattinLondon |
| In financial terms on 14:21 - Nov 14 by glasso |
Yeah I was going to say, when you're a Prem club it's almost pointless to sort out the ground. Very little of your income actually comes from there.
A training ground that helps you save £50m on transfers or makes you £50m in transfers is where it's at.
That's the modern game, innit. |
Yep - gone are the days (at least for now) when clubs needed 30k plus fans week in week out to survive in the top division. Gate receipts are now dwarfed by TV money. | | | |
| In financial terms on 16:25 - Nov 14 with 1501 views | mellowblue |
| In financial terms on 14:38 - Nov 14 by Basuco |
It is not how big the spend now is, it shows how poor our facilities were before game changer took over. |
I think our facilities were fairly well regarded and okay when first built, it does show how the required standards have risen. Probably cost us the land value and a couple of million when it was first built, (if that). Norwich leap-frogged us with theirs, hopefully we are doing the same to them. | | | |
| In financial terms on 16:32 - Nov 14 with 1469 views | WestSussexBlue |
| In financial terms on 13:21 - Nov 14 by Illinoisblue |
Look at Bournemouth. 32million. (Should have spent it on their joke of a “stadium”) [Post edited 14 Nov 13:38]
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Their “joke of a stadium” has sustained Premier League football however for near on Four years.
Currently sitting just a couple of points off of 3rd, quite admirable really. | | | |
| In financial terms on 17:18 - Nov 14 with 1359 views | Nutkins_Return |
| In financial terms on 14:19 - Nov 14 by Vic |
Shirley it's impossible to tell without knowing what it's costing. We can speculate but we know few details and with MA not exactly known for underselling things I think we'll have to wait and see. |
True but stop calling me Shirley. | |
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| In financial terms on 18:07 - Nov 14 with 1256 views | glasso |
| In financial terms on 14:19 - Nov 14 by Vic |
Shirley it's impossible to tell without knowing what it's costing. We can speculate but we know few details and with MA not exactly known for underselling things I think we'll have to wait and see. |
Even just cost doesn't meant that much. I'd imagine a project like this is cheaper in Suffolk than it would be in London, the Home Counties etc, so it could be right up there with other projects while costing considerably less. | | | |
| In financial terms on 07:10 - Nov 15 with 920 views | ArnieM |
Our training facilities are reportedly costing £30m.... by comparison Leicester’s were £100m when they were PL and were funded by the sale of one player to Man Utd back in the day.
We have x10 4G pitches, whilst nearer to home scum have x 6 3G pitches ( always in our shadow)....
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| In financial terms on 09:15 - Nov 15 with 735 views | Bobbychase |
| In financial terms on 16:32 - Nov 14 by WestSussexBlue |
Their “joke of a stadium” has sustained Premier League football however for near on Four years.
Currently sitting just a couple of points off of 3rd, quite admirable really. |
Their stadium hasn't sustained anything, it's the TV money. Bournemouth are sadly proof that you don't need a big fanbase to be a top level club anymore. |  |
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| In financial terms on 16:35 - Nov 15 with 451 views | WestSussexBlue |
| In financial terms on 09:15 - Nov 15 by Bobbychase |
Their stadium hasn't sustained anything, it's the TV money. Bournemouth are sadly proof that you don't need a big fanbase to be a top level club anymore. |
Not quite correct, as a football club, AFC Bournemouth have made themselves a well established, forward thinking and progressive club who as controversial as it may be, are sustaining the stadium, merchandise, ticket sales and Tv revenue by doing so. The fanbase has nothing g to do with it, if you are good enough then you can be successful. The Two Sheffield clubs with fantastic support and stadiums are a classic example. At a guess I’d say both get 24,000 plus yet are likely to be League One sides next season. | | | |
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