| Mcateer. 18:46 - Nov 23 with 3199 views | FrimleyBlue |
Just home after a day party so haven't had time to ask until now.
But can someone who knows more about him advise what potential is in mcateer for us to spend 12 mill on him.
From what ive seen of him. He can't shoot. Can't beat a man. Can't pass and crosses without looking up.
Is he just having a poor spell the past 12 months and needs to find himself as all we seem to be getting is the poor player leicester fans told us he was when he joined.
Think potentially is he like an outfield muric.. has the ingredients of a highly talented player but he won't ever really reach high levels of quality?
Im just really miffed so far for a manager who coached some of the world's top youngsters and developed the likes of hutch last season. What has he seen in mcateer that we haven't. |  |
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| Mcateer. on 18:53 - Nov 23 with 2524 views | Nutkins_Return |
It's a bizarre transfer to me however he's a young boy and there is some talent there. I think he's athletic, a good size and can run all day. That's a good basis to build from.
I can't justify the price tag and I don't understand the move with all the components involved but I think he's someone who can get a lot better and force his way into being a really good pro for the club a bit like Taylor. That fee and Ogbene going is just odd though and I think it was a little bit poor. The fee is not his fault though.
The real silver lining is we went and got Egeli as well and his potential looks top level! |  |
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| Mcateer. on 19:03 - Nov 23 with 2448 views | jasondozzell |
He's just the latest scapegoat from a support that is quickly revealing itself to have really soured and become quite nasty really.
All the complaints are similar to those levelled at Clarke, Jaden etc.
God forbid we give a player time.
Who is the best judge of a player? Boo boys or KM? |  | | |
| Mcateer. on 19:05 - Nov 23 with 2427 views | Swansea_Blue |
He’s probably the most important player in the squad. It’s not easy being a scapegoat taking the heat for all the other players who cost more or are more highly rated and also not delivering. It’s a dirty job, but someone has to do it and he’s doing it without complaint. |  |
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| Mcateer. on 19:06 - Nov 23 with 2417 views | gtsb1966 |
| Mcateer. on 19:03 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
He's just the latest scapegoat from a support that is quickly revealing itself to have really soured and become quite nasty really.
All the complaints are similar to those levelled at Clarke, Jaden etc.
God forbid we give a player time.
Who is the best judge of a player? Boo boys or KM? |
There always going to be one who is vastly overpriced . Unfortunately he most certainly is. |  | | |
| Mcateer. on 19:10 - Nov 23 with 2372 views | Illinoisblue |
| Mcateer. on 19:03 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
He's just the latest scapegoat from a support that is quickly revealing itself to have really soured and become quite nasty really.
All the complaints are similar to those levelled at Clarke, Jaden etc.
God forbid we give a player time.
Who is the best judge of a player? Boo boys or KM? |
Town fans are some of the most docile in all of football. |  |
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| Mcateer. on 19:11 - Nov 23 with 2365 views | jasondozzell |
| Mcateer. on 19:10 - Nov 23 by Illinoisblue |
Town fans are some of the most docile in all of football. |
They used to be | | | |
| Mcateer. on 19:11 - Nov 23 with 2356 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Mcateer. on 19:03 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
He's just the latest scapegoat from a support that is quickly revealing itself to have really soured and become quite nasty really.
All the complaints are similar to those levelled at Clarke, Jaden etc.
God forbid we give a player time.
Who is the best judge of a player? Boo boys or KM? |
I dont see how they compare with philogene and clarke tbh
Clarke came to us as a top champ player chucked in at prem level
Philogene came in after a want him didnt sign him then got him. At prem level got injured and now hes hit and miss but we know what hes strong points are.
Your last point. KM hasn't had 100% positives with his signings. It happens.
But you've not answered my OP either. Im asking what is the potential with mcateer that we havent seen yet. I dont see how that is being sour and nasty. How many appearences can a player have before you're allowed to discuss them? | |
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| Mcateer. on 19:12 - Nov 23 with 2334 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Obviously he's had a difficult start and you can see his desperation to get that first goal and things aren't falling for him - nobody's pretending otherwise.
But he's a young town player enduring a tough spell at his new club - do we really need yet another thread piling on him? There are plenty of other threads bashing the lad if you are just asking questions (hmmm). As others have said, have this element of our fans not learned anything from Clarke, Jaden, Taylor, etc etc?! |  | | |
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| Mcateer. on 19:15 - Nov 23 with 2314 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Mcateer. on 19:03 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
He's just the latest scapegoat from a support that is quickly revealing itself to have really soured and become quite nasty really.
All the complaints are similar to those levelled at Clarke, Jaden etc.
God forbid we give a player time.
Who is the best judge of a player? Boo boys or KM? |
Beat me to it. There’s nothing like giving a player time to settle is there? And this is nothing like giving a player time to settle.
He’s not impacted games much yet, but then neither has Walle Egeli (although there are obvious signs he’s a big talent who just needs to develop).
Nobody is really staking a claim for ‘nailing it’ so far this season. Matusiwa is the closest imo. | |
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| Mcateer. on 19:17 - Nov 23 with 2304 views | jasondozzell |
| Mcateer. on 19:11 - Nov 23 by FrimleyBlue |
I dont see how they compare with philogene and clarke tbh
Clarke came to us as a top champ player chucked in at prem level
Philogene came in after a want him didnt sign him then got him. At prem level got injured and now hes hit and miss but we know what hes strong points are.
Your last point. KM hasn't had 100% positives with his signings. It happens.
But you've not answered my OP either. Im asking what is the potential with mcateer that we havent seen yet. I dont see how that is being sour and nasty. How many appearences can a player have before you're allowed to discuss them? |
Similar in that everyone moaned like hell about Clarke and Philogene when they first came. They came good.
Of course KM isn't perfect with signings - who is? But Mcateer has been here 5 mins and played about that long too!
Mcateer is athletic, fits the profile I think of KM's right wingers. A bit Kayden like I think.
KM has strong background in academy football. He must see something in a young player like Mcateer.
I felt yesterday fans couldn't wait to criticise mistakes once again. | | | |
| Mcateer. on 19:18 - Nov 23 with 2297 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Mcateer. on 19:03 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
He's just the latest scapegoat from a support that is quickly revealing itself to have really soured and become quite nasty really.
All the complaints are similar to those levelled at Clarke, Jaden etc.
God forbid we give a player time.
Who is the best judge of a player? Boo boys or KM? |
Ipswich support nasty? It may be half a sleep and a little groany but we certainly aren’t nasty. People will discuss player performance on a fan message board, sorry if in upsets you so much! |  |
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| Mcateer. on 19:19 - Nov 23 with 2277 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Mcateer. on 19:15 - Nov 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Beat me to it. There’s nothing like giving a player time to settle is there? And this is nothing like giving a player time to settle.
He’s not impacted games much yet, but then neither has Walle Egeli (although there are obvious signs he’s a big talent who just needs to develop).
Nobody is really staking a claim for ‘nailing it’ so far this season. Matusiwa is the closest imo. |
He’s not impacted games much yet, but then neither has Walle Egeli (although there are obvious signs he’s a big talent who just needs to develop).
This part of your post why I made the op. I can see the develop potential of walle. And I think hes gonna be a star. Hes 19. New league. New country and yet you can see what we could get from him as the season passes. I just don't personally know what the develop hopes are of mcateer hence the OP.. | |
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| Mcateer. on 19:23 - Nov 23 with 2229 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Mcateer. on 19:17 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Similar in that everyone moaned like hell about Clarke and Philogene when they first came. They came good.
Of course KM isn't perfect with signings - who is? But Mcateer has been here 5 mins and played about that long too!
Mcateer is athletic, fits the profile I think of KM's right wingers. A bit Kayden like I think.
KM has strong background in academy football. He must see something in a young player like Mcateer.
I felt yesterday fans couldn't wait to criticise mistakes once again. |
I dont think we can say both have come good. Yet.
But we have seen the potential thats where I see the differences between those two and a mcateer | |
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| Mcateer. on 19:43 - Nov 23 with 2112 views | waveneyblue |
I think we definitely need another discussion about McAteer.
I feel he's gone under the radar a bit this weekend. |  | | |
| Mcateer. on 20:33 - Nov 23 with 1922 views | Esseeja |
This thread baffles me. How are you getting downvotes in your OP?
How can anyone currently watch him and think he has the potential to improve? Even if he does, and he probably does, most players who come here should if they were signed, but he was only £6M cheaper than Egeli, who looks miles ahead of McAteer, and someome who looks like they are actually improving in comparison to McAteer who I haven't seen improve much at all, and isn't showing anything that tells me he's good enough for a top 6 Championship player.
I don't get it. Hutchinson was starting to seriously contribute to our team by this point, just like Walle Egeli is. Yet, with McAteer, the responses to this thread for his poor performances make absolutely no sense. Egeli is younger than McAteer, Hutchinson is younger than McAteer. McAteer has less room to improve than the both of them did when they were here.
£12M!!! 12!!!
Also, not the same position obviously, but what does Humphreys have to do to get himself some game time in our first team considering how poor we have been at home so far this season, let alone this calendar year? [Post edited 23 Nov 20:36]
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| Mcateer. on 20:47 - Nov 23 with 1841 views | ArnieM |
| Mcateer. on 20:33 - Nov 23 by Esseeja |
This thread baffles me. How are you getting downvotes in your OP?
How can anyone currently watch him and think he has the potential to improve? Even if he does, and he probably does, most players who come here should if they were signed, but he was only £6M cheaper than Egeli, who looks miles ahead of McAteer, and someome who looks like they are actually improving in comparison to McAteer who I haven't seen improve much at all, and isn't showing anything that tells me he's good enough for a top 6 Championship player.
I don't get it. Hutchinson was starting to seriously contribute to our team by this point, just like Walle Egeli is. Yet, with McAteer, the responses to this thread for his poor performances make absolutely no sense. Egeli is younger than McAteer, Hutchinson is younger than McAteer. McAteer has less room to improve than the both of them did when they were here.
£12M!!! 12!!!
Also, not the same position obviously, but what does Humphreys have to do to get himself some game time in our first team considering how poor we have been at home so far this season, let alone this calendar year? [Post edited 23 Nov 20:36]
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You must NEVER under any circumstances hold a different view or opinion to the self appointed forum police....for those, please see the down voters of the original post, (all on my blocked list BTW, so I dont see their comments anymore. One of them is slipping though becuase hes normally always the first to down vote, bless him. I'll put money on it they all text each other, giving each other the heads up.  |  |
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| Mcateer. on 20:48 - Nov 23 with 1846 views | sundayroast |
| Mcateer. on 19:17 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Similar in that everyone moaned like hell about Clarke and Philogene when they first came. They came good.
Of course KM isn't perfect with signings - who is? But Mcateer has been here 5 mins and played about that long too!
Mcateer is athletic, fits the profile I think of KM's right wingers. A bit Kayden like I think.
KM has strong background in academy football. He must see something in a young player like Mcateer.
I felt yesterday fans couldn't wait to criticise mistakes once again. |
So we’ve spent £12m on a kayden jackson type player, is that what you’re saying? | | | |
| Mcateer. on 20:58 - Nov 23 with 1772 views | SomethingBlue |
The boy has played just over four and a half games' worth of minutes for us. I know the modern illness is such that nobody can give anything a smidgen of time before snapping to all kinds of dramatic judgements but some of what I'm reading at the moment is worse than pathetic, people should have a look at themselves and wonder if they really wanted to become like this. [Post edited 23 Nov 20:59]
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| Mcateer. on 21:14 - Nov 23 with 1693 views | football |
Is he the current scapegoat? Our fans love a good moan about players. Beginning of this season and last, it was non-stop moaning about Clarke and Jaden but they came good, just took a while. I guess patience isn't our plans virtue is it. | | | |
| Mcateer. on 21:23 - Nov 23 with 1621 views | Esseeja |
| Mcateer. on 20:47 - Nov 23 by ArnieM |
You must NEVER under any circumstances hold a different view or opinion to the self appointed forum police....for those, please see the down voters of the original post, (all on my blocked list BTW, so I dont see their comments anymore. One of them is slipping though becuase hes normally always the first to down vote, bless him. I'll put money on it they all text each other, giving each other the heads up. |
I think 'Forum Police' is a bit of an overstatement, just agreements and disagreements, and also, agreements and disagreements on opinions we find ridiculous. So, I disagree with you on this one. | | | |
| Mcateer. on 21:32 - Nov 23 with 1585 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Mcateer. on 19:11 - Nov 23 by FrimleyBlue |
I dont see how they compare with philogene and clarke tbh
Clarke came to us as a top champ player chucked in at prem level
Philogene came in after a want him didnt sign him then got him. At prem level got injured and now hes hit and miss but we know what hes strong points are.
Your last point. KM hasn't had 100% positives with his signings. It happens.
But you've not answered my OP either. Im asking what is the potential with mcateer that we havent seen yet. I dont see how that is being sour and nasty. How many appearences can a player have before you're allowed to discuss them? |
To answer your OP, just from watching the second half this weekend, a really clever run on the wing which was just offside, but could have been through and creating a decent delivery into the box. Also, found himself in a good position from which he lashed the ball wide.
Potential is there, he shows some good positioning, runs and awareness, but is sorely lacking in minutes, confidence and clinical finishing.
Yes, he is massively underperforming at the moment, but he's clearly not a rubbish player.
The fact that many fans (not suggesting you are one) just can't seem to support the team without singling out one underperformer to vilify is pretty depressing.
Say he is underperforming, sure, but using hyperbole is neither helpful or supportive.
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| Mcateer. on 21:43 - Nov 23 with 1548 views | Esseeja |
| Mcateer. on 21:14 - Nov 23 by football |
Is he the current scapegoat? Our fans love a good moan about players. Beginning of this season and last, it was non-stop moaning about Clarke and Jaden but they came good, just took a while. I guess patience isn't our plans virtue is it. |
The entire team was moaned at this calendar year before last season ended, and rightfully so, we were an uninspired mess, especially after inexplicably losing to Southampton at home. I still can't believe we gave them and Leicester 8 points.
Until the Sheffield United game, Philogene was rightfully getting criticised because a lot of his play was coming to nothing. He needed that game.
Jack Clarke SHOULD be performing well, considering the player he was when he was at Sunderland. Thankfully, he is.
The entire team started the season quite poorly, until we beat Sheffied United, and a dozen or so games later and we are still not in the top 6 IF we take into account our current game in hand; we were not giving Blackburn much of a game in that second half once Greaves got himself sent off. We have a lot to thank the weather for.
After the Charlton game, in 6 of our opening 10 fixtures, (11 if you count the 79 against Blackburn) we did not score an open play goal in 6 of them (7 if you count the 79 against Blackburn). Of the 4 games we scored an open play goal in, one of them was the 1-1 draw with Southampton, a very lucky own goal, and the rest the 5-0 win, the 2-1 against Portsmouth where we should have scored more, and the glorious 3-1 win against.... whoever they are.
So, in my opinion, the criticisms were fair. The criticisms over the last 3 home games are also fair. We should not need 75 shots in our last 4 home games to only score 2 goals. Most of those shots weren't threatening enough anyway. I also believe the criticisms towards McAteer are also more than fair, as are the criticisms for the price we paid for him, and for even buying him in the first place.
Tough game against Hull next, and then a tough day away at Oxford, we NEED to get results out of away games like this if we are serious about promotion. Then comes our game in hand against Blackburn, who seem to be world beaters this season. It will be as tough as it was in September. [Post edited 23 Nov 21:46]
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| Mcateer. on 21:45 - Nov 23 with 1539 views | itfcsuth |
| Mcateer. on 19:17 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Similar in that everyone moaned like hell about Clarke and Philogene when they first came. They came good.
Of course KM isn't perfect with signings - who is? But Mcateer has been here 5 mins and played about that long too!
Mcateer is athletic, fits the profile I think of KM's right wingers. A bit Kayden like I think.
KM has strong background in academy football. He must see something in a young player like Mcateer.
I felt yesterday fans couldn't wait to criticise mistakes once again. |
Philogene and Clarke came good?
Steady on a little, whilst they’ve showed good moments at this level, which you’d hope since we’ve had to drop down a division for them to show the moment.
Saying they’ve come good is probably stretching it at the moment, need far more consistently from both of them. |  | | |
| Mcateer. on 21:49 - Nov 23 with 1525 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
The primary premise for this post, and so many others regarding McAteer, relate to whether or not he is worth £12M. The fee structure was not announced, but general indications are that we paid a fraction of that up front, with addons on top of that. So maybe £2-3M paid so far, with more to follow.
So, does McAteer bring anything as a squad player, with that as context. I’d say yes, and if KmK can improve him, even better.
For me it’s bizarre that people get so hung up on these ‘undisclosed’ transfer fees - do they truly think the club is that incompetent. | | | |
| Mcateer. on 21:51 - Nov 23 with 1505 views | itfcsuth |
| Mcateer. on 21:49 - Nov 23 by SuffolkPunchFC |
The primary premise for this post, and so many others regarding McAteer, relate to whether or not he is worth £12M. The fee structure was not announced, but general indications are that we paid a fraction of that up front, with addons on top of that. So maybe £2-3M paid so far, with more to follow.
So, does McAteer bring anything as a squad player, with that as context. I’d say yes, and if KmK can improve him, even better.
For me it’s bizarre that people get so hung up on these ‘undisclosed’ transfer fees - do they truly think the club is that incompetent. |
Yes, the club is incompetent when dealing with large transfer fees, that’s fairly evident.
It was £12m guranteed with over £3m in adds one, as reported by David Ornstein.
Direct quote from Leicester forum. “Good luck to Kasey, but £12m in our position is a no brained for a player who is miles off the ability of other RW at the club. Can’t believe the club have managed to make a sensible decision.” [Post edited 23 Nov 21:55]
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