| Cajuste 09:10 - Nov 27 with 2281 views | Wickets |
Seems right off the pace at present, he is such a quality player but appears to be struggling in the championship. Maybe a chance to reset himself if his injury means he has to miss a game or two . |  | | |  |
| Cajuste on 09:13 - Nov 27 with 1844 views | Cotty |
He’s a talented player who unfortunately just isn’t particularly effective. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 09:44 - Nov 27 with 1724 views | lurcher |
I fear that Jens isn't robust enough for this league. Regular football will just curtail his performance. I can see him reduced to being a bit part player, coming on for 30 mins here and there. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 10:37 - Nov 27 with 1573 views | ArnieM |
| Cajuste on 09:13 - Nov 27 by Cotty |
He’s a talented player who unfortunately just isn’t particularly effective. |
Id say thats more or less bang on the money as an assesment of him....
Taylor has imprerssed me over recent weeks as Inever though he would get it together in a Blue shirt ...its taken a long time for him to get to this point , but its very welcome. |  |
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| Cajuste on 10:37 - Nov 27 with 1577 views | tractorboy1978 |
I find it quite sad to see actually. For all the talk about his fitness last year, we did actually manage to get him on the pitch and performing for 60-75 minutes regularly. He looks well off it this year - I can't help but think pissing about in the summer and not having a proper pre-season hasn't helped.
He's looking like a player that at 26 years old could end up strolling about in the Saudi League (or similar) next season. You wonder if his body is cut out for the rigours of competitive European football. [Post edited 27 Nov 10:38]
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| Cajuste on 11:03 - Nov 27 with 1511 views | Smoresy |
| Cajuste on 09:44 - Nov 27 by lurcher |
I fear that Jens isn't robust enough for this league. Regular football will just curtail his performance. I can see him reduced to being a bit part player, coming on for 30 mins here and there. |
I fear you're right, though I don't think we should attribute his struggles to the rigours of this league specifically. That would be more compelling if we'd flogged him. Instead he's only played 635 minutes since the summer break. Compare his playing time to players in the PL, which has fewer games but at a faster pace, and regular starters there will be approaching 1000 minutes by now. Elite internationals like Declan Rice have already played 1800 minutes in all competitions this season.
Unfortunately I fear Jens's body just doesn't lend itself to regular sprinting, which leaves us exposed in the Championship and mauled in the PL. If we may get him to a point where he's capable of good energy bursts off the bench then I'd see that as a win. | | | |
| Cajuste on 11:14 - Nov 27 with 1452 views | davblue |
| Cajuste on 11:03 - Nov 27 by Smoresy |
I fear you're right, though I don't think we should attribute his struggles to the rigours of this league specifically. That would be more compelling if we'd flogged him. Instead he's only played 635 minutes since the summer break. Compare his playing time to players in the PL, which has fewer games but at a faster pace, and regular starters there will be approaching 1000 minutes by now. Elite internationals like Declan Rice have already played 1800 minutes in all competitions this season.
Unfortunately I fear Jens's body just doesn't lend itself to regular sprinting, which leaves us exposed in the Championship and mauled in the PL. If we may get him to a point where he's capable of good energy bursts off the bench then I'd see that as a win. |
Im not sure how we are in a position where we will be paying him a very good wage and we are hoping we can get good energy bursts from the bench. I don't see how that's a win in any shape or form.
It goes back to muddled recruitment. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 11:26 - Nov 27 with 1407 views | Len_Brennan |
I've been flying solo on this one for a while, but in this team, with the options available, I see Cajuste as a real solution to the central #10 problem.
His quality is in his clever turns in tight spaces, away from covering midfielder/defenders & smart one-two passes, all of which are vital for breaking through low block & parked bus defences.
It doesn't work for us with Szmodics or Akpom in that role, when we are playing with 3 across that attacking line, especially when the wide players - Philogene/Clarke & Walle-Eegli - all like to cut inside, shrinking the available space even more.
Szmodics & Akpom are more direct running #10s, who work best when playing as a second forward, off the #9, with a more traditional midfield 3 or 4 behind them; that gives them more space to run into & drive forward with power & pace into good shooting areas. They just don't get too many of those opportunities in our set up.
This is why, in my opinion, Nunez has looked more effective in the central #10 role & links the play with Hirst (the centre forward), who I feel has suffered too from the change in personnel/approach behind him.
For me, the quick, clever feet of Cajuste, not to mention his height & strength, would be a real plus for us in that role, and I can visualise some really smart interplay with Philogene, Eegli, Clarke & Hirst. It also has the advantage of having the option of him dropping back to give us 3 in midfield when needed, maybe against the likes of Birmingham or Middlesbrough.
We have definitely looked a better balanced side with Nunez playing as the #10, so why not look at Cajuste there as an option too, when back from injury? [Post edited 27 Nov 11:29]
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| Cajuste on 11:26 - Nov 27 with 1402 views | RIPbobby |
I think he will be just fine as one of our #10s. The holding role does not suit him. A free role would be fine. |  | | |
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| Cajuste on 11:42 - Nov 27 with 1361 views | portmanking |
| Cajuste on 10:37 - Nov 27 by tractorboy1978 |
I find it quite sad to see actually. For all the talk about his fitness last year, we did actually manage to get him on the pitch and performing for 60-75 minutes regularly. He looks well off it this year - I can't help but think pissing about in the summer and not having a proper pre-season hasn't helped.
He's looking like a player that at 26 years old could end up strolling about in the Saudi League (or similar) next season. You wonder if his body is cut out for the rigours of competitive European football. [Post edited 27 Nov 10:38]
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Yeah, I posted very similar a couple of days ago.
The fact he was being lined up to go to NEOM in Saudi suggests it's clear he's not physically cut out for football at this level/speed. He's looked very sorry for himself lately. I think he knows his body isn't cut out for it. It's why Brentford ran a mile after his medical there last summer.
If we're being brutal, I would take the hit and send him back to Napoli in Jan and find someone else that can make a difference during three-game weeks. We're a Matusiwa injury away from having quite the midfield crisis. [Post edited 27 Nov 11:44]
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| Cajuste on 11:49 - Nov 27 with 1303 views | lurcher |
| Cajuste on 11:03 - Nov 27 by Smoresy |
I fear you're right, though I don't think we should attribute his struggles to the rigours of this league specifically. That would be more compelling if we'd flogged him. Instead he's only played 635 minutes since the summer break. Compare his playing time to players in the PL, which has fewer games but at a faster pace, and regular starters there will be approaching 1000 minutes by now. Elite internationals like Declan Rice have already played 1800 minutes in all competitions this season.
Unfortunately I fear Jens's body just doesn't lend itself to regular sprinting, which leaves us exposed in the Championship and mauled in the PL. If we may get him to a point where he's capable of good energy bursts off the bench then I'd see that as a win. |
Probably a few things. General physicality, tougher challenges with less referee/VAR protection, number of games and less rest time | | | |
| Cajuste on 11:51 - Nov 27 with 1288 views | Mookamoo |
We so wanted Hackney for that position.
Doubt with Boro doing OK this year he will come in January, but you do wonder if we will be looking to strengthen there.
Would be very harsh on Taylor |  | | |
| Cajuste on 11:52 - Nov 27 with 1282 views | lurcher |
| Cajuste on 11:42 - Nov 27 by portmanking |
Yeah, I posted very similar a couple of days ago.
The fact he was being lined up to go to NEOM in Saudi suggests it's clear he's not physically cut out for football at this level/speed. He's looked very sorry for himself lately. I think he knows his body isn't cut out for it. It's why Brentford ran a mile after his medical there last summer.
If we're being brutal, I would take the hit and send him back to Napoli in Jan and find someone else that can make a difference during three-game weeks. We're a Matusiwa injury away from having quite the midfield crisis. [Post edited 27 Nov 11:44]
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There will be 0 chance of sending him back. We will be on the hook for the full season as his deal included a buy option. Azon is the only player we might be able to send back in January. | | | |
| Cajuste on 12:00 - Nov 27 with 1236 views | Portman_Pie |
| Cajuste on 11:14 - Nov 27 by davblue |
Im not sure how we are in a position where we will be paying him a very good wage and we are hoping we can get good energy bursts from the bench. I don't see how that's a win in any shape or form.
It goes back to muddled recruitment. |
Much like Young on £60K per week, whilst we have Johnson reputedly on £60K too, Clarke (Circa £30) and Furlong - likely £25k. Our RB birth is costing a cool near £200 a week.
That's Bad recruitment for you. | | | |
| Cajuste on 12:11 - Nov 27 with 1183 views | RadioOrwell |
| Cajuste on 11:51 - Nov 27 by Mookamoo |
We so wanted Hackney for that position.
Doubt with Boro doing OK this year he will come in January, but you do wonder if we will be looking to strengthen there.
Would be very harsh on Taylor |
With the number of games and inevitable injuries and suspensions, 3 central mids will all play plenty of games I think. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 12:12 - Nov 27 with 1182 views | portmanking |
| Cajuste on 11:51 - Nov 27 by Mookamoo |
We so wanted Hackney for that position.
Doubt with Boro doing OK this year he will come in January, but you do wonder if we will be looking to strengthen there.
Would be very harsh on Taylor |
It would be a dereliction of duty if we weren't still looking for at least one more centre mid.
If Cajuste is out for a while we've got Jack, Azor and Nacho (Cam Humphreys isn't ready to be in a double pivot of a top 2-chasing Champ team).
And Nacho is currently being deployed further up the pitch anyhow.
If we want someone who's going to suit us down to the ground for the next six months in a cost-effective fashion, I'd be going all out for Glen Kamara. | | | |
| Cajuste on 12:16 - Nov 27 with 1160 views | Steve_M |
| Cajuste on 11:42 - Nov 27 by portmanking |
Yeah, I posted very similar a couple of days ago.
The fact he was being lined up to go to NEOM in Saudi suggests it's clear he's not physically cut out for football at this level/speed. He's looked very sorry for himself lately. I think he knows his body isn't cut out for it. It's why Brentford ran a mile after his medical there last summer.
If we're being brutal, I would take the hit and send him back to Napoli in Jan and find someone else that can make a difference during three-game weeks. We're a Matusiwa injury away from having quite the midfield crisis. [Post edited 27 Nov 11:44]
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It was always a risk given the intensity of the Championship schedule and how late in the Summer we signed him. It's probably telling that we only seemed to really firm our interest up after Hackney turned us down.
We need a central midfielder in January regardless of whether Jens can get up to match fitness a bit more. |  |
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| Cajuste on 12:21 - Nov 27 with 1126 views | cbower |
| Cajuste on 12:00 - Nov 27 by Portman_Pie |
Much like Young on £60K per week, whilst we have Johnson reputedly on £60K too, Clarke (Circa £30) and Furlong - likely £25k. Our RB birth is costing a cool near £200 a week.
That's Bad recruitment for you. |
Looking at the minutes played, the Young signing is nuts. |  |
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| Cajuste on 12:22 - Nov 27 with 1123 views | JakeITFC |
| Cajuste on 12:00 - Nov 27 by Portman_Pie |
Much like Young on £60K per week, whilst we have Johnson reputedly on £60K too, Clarke (Circa £30) and Furlong - likely £25k. Our RB birth is costing a cool near £200 a week.
That's Bad recruitment for you. |
Those numbers all seem a bit unrealistically punchy. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 12:22 - Nov 27 with 1120 views | Smoresy |
| Cajuste on 11:49 - Nov 27 by lurcher |
Probably a few things. General physicality, tougher challenges with less referee/VAR protection, number of games and less rest time |
PL is significantly more physical imo in the most pertinent measures: bigger, stronger, faster, fitter players everywhere on the pitch. There are fewer oafish tackles up there but Tuesday was the first one landed on Cajuste from memory.
As for games and rest time, my point is that he hasn't been exposed to the Tuesday - Saturday grind at all really. We're discussing his difficulties so far and that context isn't relevant as yet, because we've used him quite sparingly. | | | |
| Cajuste on 12:37 - Nov 27 with 1041 views | lurcher |
| Cajuste on 12:22 - Nov 27 by Smoresy |
PL is significantly more physical imo in the most pertinent measures: bigger, stronger, faster, fitter players everywhere on the pitch. There are fewer oafish tackles up there but Tuesday was the first one landed on Cajuste from memory.
As for games and rest time, my point is that he hasn't been exposed to the Tuesday - Saturday grind at all really. We're discussing his difficulties so far and that context isn't relevant as yet, because we've used him quite sparingly. |
I think you get more space in the prem. There is far more leaning, nudging and pull backs at this level. Saying nothing of the actual challenges without the protection of VAR. There is more training with two games a week, you have 2 even 3 teams to prep for each week, rather than one. Players get do get more rest days in the Prem. It just seems like Jens general performance has dipped and he looks sloppy in games now. In the first few games we saw all those silky pirouettes, which have dried up now. | | | |
| Cajuste on 12:45 - Nov 27 with 1014 views | Smoresy |
| Cajuste on 11:14 - Nov 27 by davblue |
Im not sure how we are in a position where we will be paying him a very good wage and we are hoping we can get good energy bursts from the bench. I don't see how that's a win in any shape or form.
It goes back to muddled recruitment. |
Fully agree with your assessment (despite my earlier words lol). It's a misstep of a signing unless he finds a great deal more fitness. Now we are where we are though (much like with the amount given to Leicester for McAteer), I would take good energy bursts from him going forward if offered today. It wouldn't be value for money but he could still have a good impact on our season that way. | | | |
| Cajuste on 12:51 - Nov 27 with 969 views | BouncebackIpswich |
I still don't understand why we don't play 4-3-3. The number 10 role is not working, so replace with Azor as pure DM, Taylor box to box and one of Jens/ Nunez to be focused more on progressing the ball, retaining possession high up the pitch and unlocking defences with less responsibility than the other 2 to track back.
I'd also definitely look at getting Morsy back in the door and somebody to rotate with Taylor who can cover the pitch effectively.
Akpom can rotate for the number 9 slot and Szmodics can be an option for second striker if we want to change it up. |  | | |
| Cajuste on 13:10 - Nov 27 with 880 views | Vic |
Penny for the managers thoughts on this right now!
Aside from the fitness (or lack of it issues) when I look at Cajuste and Taylor I’m reminded of Viljoen and Osbourne in the 70’s. Viljoen was as silky as you want (got capped for England) but in the end it was Osbourne who Robson trusted to do the ‘water carrying’ in the team. There was quite a thing I believe before the 78 cup final - Viljoen was fit, but SBR chose to play Osbourne. The rest is history - and Viljoen was sold to Man City. |  |
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| Cajuste on 13:16 - Nov 27 with 838 views | NthQldITFC |
He's certainly below where he was for us last season, but there's still some very good aspects to his play - his ability to turn a player and start something off is still great for this level, even how he's playing now, but his end product has been very disappointing. He seems to want to come up with a killer ball or beat everyone all the time. If he could just sort out some quality through balls for the forwards after he's beaten his own man in the middle, he would be so effective. Then he needs to work on his defensive positioning a bit too. Don't give up on him yet. |  |
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| Cajuste on 13:20 - Nov 27 with 827 views | cbower |
| Cajuste on 13:10 - Nov 27 by Vic |
Penny for the managers thoughts on this right now!
Aside from the fitness (or lack of it issues) when I look at Cajuste and Taylor I’m reminded of Viljoen and Osbourne in the 70’s. Viljoen was as silky as you want (got capped for England) but in the end it was Osbourne who Robson trusted to do the ‘water carrying’ in the team. There was quite a thing I believe before the 78 cup final - Viljoen was fit, but SBR chose to play Osbourne. The rest is history - and Viljoen was sold to Man City. |
Iirc Sir Bob chose Osbourne in part due to pressure from his own teammates didn't he? | |
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