| If we replace McKenna... 21:50 - Dec 2 with 1840 views | baxterbasics |
Watch us sink like a stone into the lower half of the table. See it time and time again when clubs dump a previously successful manager who's going through a slump. Rarely do things get better.
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| If we replace McKenna... on 21:52 - Dec 2 with 1550 views | Swailsey |
I’d argue that a season and a half is more than a ‘slump’.
We were relegated with a squad that wasn’t good enough, have spent millions and the squad STILL isn’t good enough.
I’m not McKenna out, but if this was any other club around the country, it wouldn’t be a surprise for him to be under pressure.
We’ve been crap under him for nearly as long as we were good. |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 21:52 - Dec 2 with 1546 views | pointofblue |
That was the reasoning to keep Mick wasn't it? It just allowed him to burn through all the goodwill and leave the club a toxic mess.
Sometimes changes fail - mainly because the successor is the wrong choice (see Hurst, Lambert and, to a lesser extent Cook, after McCarthy). Sometimes they succeed. |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 21:53 - Dec 2 with 1510 views | Nutkins_Return |
My gut feeling is we wouldn't and we would probably get playoffs but to what end. Mid to long term McKenna offers us way more. He's more than proven himself at this level.
He may need to look at freshening up the coaching staff and I think we have to look again in Jan for a couple of key signings. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 21:54 - Dec 2 with 1458 views | billlm |
Much more than a slump, |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:54 - Dec 2 with 1441 views | BouncebackIpswich |
I think I agree, just about, but he's starting to be on borrowed time now. |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:55 - Dec 2 with 1385 views | baxterbasics |
In any case I can't see it happening for a whiles yet. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 21:56 - Dec 2 with 1361 views | mrfixit426 |
All went wrong when misery guts Aluko joined the coaching team innit.
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| If we replace McKenna... on 21:56 - Dec 2 with 1345 views | FromReuserWithLove |
"we need to be thankful for Marcus Evans keeping us afloat. Who else would put that money in...."
I don't want to get rid of KM but these arguments are ridiculous. |  | | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:01 - Dec 2 with 1222 views | NthQldITFC |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:53 - Dec 2 by Nutkins_Return |
My gut feeling is we wouldn't and we would probably get playoffs but to what end. Mid to long term McKenna offers us way more. He's more than proven himself at this level.
He may need to look at freshening up the coaching staff and I think we have to look again in Jan for a couple of key signings. |
I'm starting to think getting Morsy back in would be worth the risk to O'Shea's ego. O'Shea has been a really solid CB all season and I have nothing at all against him, but team spirit looks about 3/10 at the moment, where it was probably never below 7/10 when Sam was here, and usually 9/10 or better.
That's not to say that Sam could magically pull a whole new squad together, but if anyone could... |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:02 - Dec 2 with 1198 views | ringwoodblue |
I don’t like the idea of sacking McKenna but I’m mystified as to why he can’t get a tune out of these players. There are so many issues with our performances in recent weeks, I honestly don’t know where to start. We are a terrible team to watch right now and the fans deserve more. [Post edited 2 Dec 22:03]
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:03 - Dec 2 with 1125 views | pointofblue |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:53 - Dec 2 by Nutkins_Return |
My gut feeling is we wouldn't and we would probably get playoffs but to what end. Mid to long term McKenna offers us way more. He's more than proven himself at this level.
He may need to look at freshening up the coaching staff and I think we have to look again in Jan for a couple of key signings. |
The answer is to spend even more money? Do we trust those who managed the last three windows to spend it effectively? | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:06 - Dec 2 with 1070 views | ottovonbismark |
I doubt the club has any clear plan in mind, we have to accept that compared to other clubs, Brighton, Bournemouth etc we are not a very well run football club. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:08 - Dec 2 with 1021 views | jas0999 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:52 - Dec 2 by Swailsey |
I’d argue that a season and a half is more than a ‘slump’.
We were relegated with a squad that wasn’t good enough, have spent millions and the squad STILL isn’t good enough.
I’m not McKenna out, but if this was any other club around the country, it wouldn’t be a surprise for him to be under pressure.
We’ve been crap under him for nearly as long as we were good. |
This. Blackburn just four points at home this season. They should have seven. But fact we couldn’t beat them. Wow. Too many people still living off KMs promotions - enough is enough, this season isn’t good enough. Nor was nine straight home defeats. He’s done. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:09 - Dec 2 with 988 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:06 - Dec 2 by ottovonbismark |
I doubt the club has any clear plan in mind, we have to accept that compared to other clubs, Brighton, Bournemouth etc we are not a very well run football club. |
Wow! You stand by that?
Would you prefer Marcus Evans in charge again? |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:09 - Dec 2 with 961 views | bournemouthblue |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:52 - Dec 2 by pointofblue |
That was the reasoning to keep Mick wasn't it? It just allowed him to burn through all the goodwill and leave the club a toxic mess.
Sometimes changes fail - mainly because the successor is the wrong choice (see Hurst, Lambert and, to a lesser extent Cook, after McCarthy). Sometimes they succeed. |
It's way too early to be panicking yet
It would have to be a serious manager if we were looking for a replacement |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:12 - Dec 2 with 895 views | yesjohn99 |
Or gain a plan B? | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:15 - Dec 2 with 833 views | ITFCSG |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:06 - Dec 2 by ottovonbismark |
I doubt the club has any clear plan in mind, we have to accept that compared to other clubs, Brighton, Bournemouth etc we are not a very well run football club. |
Sunderland fans were moaning about Louis Dreyfus and Sartori for many seasons. Even Le Bris came under fire.
But compared to Ashton and McK they now seem like geniuses. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:16 - Dec 2 with 816 views | pointofblue |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:09 - Dec 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Wow! You stand by that?
Would you prefer Marcus Evans in charge again? |
There is a huge gap between Bournemouth and Brighton's owners and Evans.
For me, Ashton has too much power now. Keep him on, but he needs someone with football experience and knowledge to mark his homework. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:16 - Dec 2 with 808 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| If we replace McKenna... on 21:52 - Dec 2 by Swailsey |
I’d argue that a season and a half is more than a ‘slump’.
We were relegated with a squad that wasn’t good enough, have spent millions and the squad STILL isn’t good enough.
I’m not McKenna out, but if this was any other club around the country, it wouldn’t be a surprise for him to be under pressure.
We’ve been crap under him for nearly as long as we were good. |
I personally love the identity of ITFC that we give managers time. We are pretty rare in that respect, and it sets us apart from the predictable masses all over the world.
KMcK has plenty of time with me, and I'm proud that this club is different to every other club that would have binned a manager in the same circumstances. . |  |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:21 - Dec 2 with 747 views | Swailsey |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:16 - Dec 2 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I personally love the identity of ITFC that we give managers time. We are pretty rare in that respect, and it sets us apart from the predictable masses all over the world.
KMcK has plenty of time with me, and I'm proud that this club is different to every other club that would have binned a manager in the same circumstances. . |
Fair enough and I genuinely admire your positivity. I’m not asking for his head, but clearly all is not well, and it was the same last season.
He deserves time to turn it around, but we’re already eating into it IMO.
We spent so many years in the doldrums, we can’t afford to stagnate now out of never ending loyalty (I acknowledge that KMc was a huge part in getting us out of that situation, but he was not the ONLY reason it happened). [Post edited 2 Dec 22:21]
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| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:21 - Dec 2 with 732 views | BrockleyBlue78 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:16 - Dec 2 by pointofblue |
There is a huge gap between Bournemouth and Brighton's owners and Evans.
For me, Ashton has too much power now. Keep him on, but he needs someone with football experience and knowledge to mark his homework. |
Mike O’Leary retired on 31 July 2024.
Look at our results since. |  | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:22 - Dec 2 with 726 views | mrfixit426 |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:12 - Dec 2 by yesjohn99 |
Or gain a plan B? |
Plan B klaxon!
Somebody wasn't watching the final 15 mins. | | | |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:26 - Dec 2 with 651 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:21 - Dec 2 by Swailsey |
Fair enough and I genuinely admire your positivity. I’m not asking for his head, but clearly all is not well, and it was the same last season.
He deserves time to turn it around, but we’re already eating into it IMO.
We spent so many years in the doldrums, we can’t afford to stagnate now out of never ending loyalty (I acknowledge that KMc was a huge part in getting us out of that situation, but he was not the ONLY reason it happened). [Post edited 2 Dec 22:21]
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We saw what 'player funds' did to managers like Burley and Magilton, previously . Perhaps that muddies the waters with coaches whose best work is done on the training field with raw talent.
It would be a shame if KMcK can't work with higher calibre players, but that is as much, perhaps, due to player mentality, than managerial ability. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:28 - Dec 2 with 614 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:16 - Dec 2 by pointofblue |
There is a huge gap between Bournemouth and Brighton's owners and Evans.
For me, Ashton has too much power now. Keep him on, but he needs someone with football experience and knowledge to mark his homework. |
I have no issue with that. We probably do miss Mike O'Leary and could do with someone similar.
The idea that we are being very badly run and are a mess can only come from someone with a very short memory. Look at the Sheffield clubs or just up the road. Try being a Luton fan, or Wolves, Tottenham or Man Utd. It's all about expectations and it seems that promotion to the Premier League has sent expectations soaring. Would McKenna have been better off had we just missed promotion through the playoffs and then built a stronger Championship team for last season instead of what we did get?
Let's not become a Derby County expecting to buy our way to promotion and constantly chopping managers until the money is gone and we sink back into League 1. | |
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| If we replace McKenna... on 22:30 - Dec 2 with 582 views | jasondozzell |
| If we replace McKenna... on 22:06 - Dec 2 by ottovonbismark |
I doubt the club has any clear plan in mind, we have to accept that compared to other clubs, Brighton, Bournemouth etc we are not a very well run football club. |
I can't believe I'm reading this.
You can't have everything you want all the time and immediately. In life or football.
Do you remember what it was like before the takeover? [Post edited 2 Dec 22:31]
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