| Everybody talking about who we might get in, 09:41 - Jan 2 with 4751 views | Guthrum |
but now the window is open, we're going to need to be careful that nobody from above (i.e. the Prem) comes to steal any of our better players - Philogene, Jack Clarke, Matusiwa, for example.
I'm sure that Ashton and McKenna will fight tooth and nail to retain our best men, also that we have no financial compulsion to sell. But there is always a risk should a humungous offer come in that someone's head could be turned.
Yes, they could potentially be replaced, but we might not succeed in getting the right individual and, even if we did, it is likely to take time to bed them into the team. |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:19 - Jan 2 with 955 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 12:26 - Jan 2 by Libero |
Could you name said players you're referring to? |
That's not my job.
But we would want a lot of money for Azor as he is our most important player. There will be similar profiles of players that wont command such a fee. |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:21 - Jan 2 with 952 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 12:29 - Jan 2 by StokieBlue |
Ah, you mean less than we would want for him now.
Fair enough.
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Yes. We would I imagine want a lot of money for him. Especially as he looks the player in our team most capable of making the step up. | |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:23 - Jan 2 with 944 views | Libero |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:19 - Jan 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That's not my job.
But we would want a lot of money for Azor as he is our most important player. There will be similar profiles of players that wont command such a fee. |
I misunderstood your original phrasing, as Stokie did - it appeared you were saying Matusiwa's are ten a penny and readily available on the cheap on the continent haha! |  | | |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:23 - Jan 2 with 938 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 12:26 - Jan 2 by Libero |
Could you name said players you're referring to? |
I can't see which Premier League teams are likely to be offering the sort of money we would want for Matusiwa. Hackney appears to be a possibility for Wolves but wouldn't any other Premier Club looking at Matusiwa be looking at him as well? I would be surprised if there was genuine interest in him and even more surprised if it was at a level that saw us sell. We are looking to add another player of that type and level aren't we? Several have been mentioned that might suit us. Louza at Watford is one, I think. I am sure there are plenty abroad too. |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:25 - Jan 2 with 937 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:23 - Jan 2 by Libero |
I misunderstood your original phrasing, as Stokie did - it appeared you were saying Matusiwa's are ten a penny and readily available on the cheap on the continent haha! |
If they are ten a penny I will take a few more.
If we were to get promoted I envisage another very busy transfer window so keeping Azor who can probably pay that level up is imperative. Whack a huge price tag on him and people will stay clear. | |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 17:21 - Jan 2 with 831 views | jayessess |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 12:20 - Jan 2 by StokieBlue |
Azor is 27, when did that become too old for serious PL interest?
I wouldn't be so sure that someone wouldn't pay 35m for Philogene, I don't think we will get a bid and I don't think we would sell but I would not be surprised at interest.
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It just is really. There are basically no significant transfers into the Premier League involving players like Azor who haven't played in the PL before and are over the age of 25.
Can't see that Jaden has done anything with us that would put another 75% on his value. We signed him off the back of a season at Hull where he got 18 goal contributions in the Championship. He'll likely post similar numbers this season but 2 years older. |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 17:41 - Jan 2 with 795 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 17:21 - Jan 2 by jayessess |
It just is really. There are basically no significant transfers into the Premier League involving players like Azor who haven't played in the PL before and are over the age of 25.
Can't see that Jaden has done anything with us that would put another 75% on his value. We signed him off the back of a season at Hull where he got 18 goal contributions in the Championship. He'll likely post similar numbers this season but 2 years older. |
I don't think his age is so much of a barrier as the lack of PL experience.
I'm not concerned that we will lose anyone - I think the value we put on them is considerably higher than what anyone would pay, as per your 2nd paragraph. The 2 players we had that shone in the PL were both plucked in the summer. No one else really looked good enough for the Prem - at least to external eyes.
Ashton & McKenna have been taking a long term view, to build a team that will survive in the Prem when we go up next time. The players we have now are individually better than the ones we got promoted with last time, and another half season of them getting McKenna coaching and playing with these players will serve us much better next time. But no one has the pedigree right now to generate bids of £35+M. |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 18:24 - Jan 2 with 731 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 11:18 - Jan 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
This was pretty much my thoughts. We don't want to lose Philogene but if a proper offer comes in from the Premier League we wouldn't want to stand in his way. That would have to be well in excess of £30M and probably closer to £40M. If we could spend that on a very good striker and midfielder we would have done well.
In an ideal world, we keep Philogene and add a striker and midfielder anyway. That will still involve making adjustments to the squad with an outgoing or two (depending on the age of new signings). |
He is a year into his contract, we absolutely would want to stand in his way. We are not a mid table club.
With the money we have chucked around in the summer to try and get promoted, why is GBP10M profit that attractive to us? You could argue it's suicidal to lose our highest goal scorer when we are second in the league by a point with no obvious striker banging them in. Never going to happen, would have to start with a 4 to even talk I'd think. [Post edited 2 Jan 18:27]
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 19:20 - Jan 2 with 664 views | StokieBlue |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 18:24 - Jan 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
He is a year into his contract, we absolutely would want to stand in his way. We are not a mid table club.
With the money we have chucked around in the summer to try and get promoted, why is GBP10M profit that attractive to us? You could argue it's suicidal to lose our highest goal scorer when we are second in the league by a point with no obvious striker banging them in. Never going to happen, would have to start with a 4 to even talk I'd think. [Post edited 2 Jan 18:27]
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" the money we have chucked around in the summer to try and get promoted, why is GBP10M profit that attractive to us?"
Aren't we net negative spend with the sales of Hutch and Delap? Lots of podcasts like to highlight the money spent without factoring in the money recouped.
Agree that currently we wouldn't see a 10m profit as something to tempt us.
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 19:48 - Jan 2 with 628 views | armchaircritic59 |
Ok, say Bournemouth come knocking for JP. We say you can have him on one condition only. You let us have Ben Doak. We might lose JP's goalscoring prowess at PR ( he doesn't turn up anywhere else as yet anyway ). We give Jack Clarke his regular place back at wide left ( who does turn up away from home). Ben Doak is a wide right player, just 7 months older than SWE I might add, but with a lot more experience and would come in straight away to fill a problematic position, which will leave SWE to move sooner rather than later into his longer term position at no10. It would also be good to see the two youngsters fight out wide right between them in the short term! And I haven't forgotten a certain Wes Burns. So, how about that for a potential solution to the knock on the door? |  | | |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 19:58 - Jan 2 with 613 views | hunty21 |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 09:54 - Jan 2 by davblue |
sure i saw last night that Philogene is being looked at by Bournemouth as a Semenyo replacement.
I didn't look who reported it but that's probably the type of player they would look at profile wise, young with re sale. |
Thought they were after the Leicester player Fatawai or whoever | | | |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 20:12 - Jan 2 with 589 views | Kieran_Knows |
I’d imagine we’d look at Mehmeti, Hackney (obviously), Hughes, Louza, Lawlor and Castledine.
Just a hunch though, I think we’ll make 2 big money signings from Europe. |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 20:13 - Jan 2 with 582 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 19:20 - Jan 2 by StokieBlue |
" the money we have chucked around in the summer to try and get promoted, why is GBP10M profit that attractive to us?"
Aren't we net negative spend with the sales of Hutch and Delap? Lots of podcasts like to highlight the money spent without factoring in the money recouped.
Agree that currently we wouldn't see a 10m profit as something to tempt us.
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Depends how you assess it since promotion really but not like those two were were academy players. We have spent a lot of money in truth, I would have zero interest in that kind of profit when we are in a parachute club in the promotion race.
Surprised some are even talking about it, that won't even buy you a CB for our bench! | |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 20:13 - Jan 2 with 587 views | LeoMuff |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 19:48 - Jan 2 by armchaircritic59 |
Ok, say Bournemouth come knocking for JP. We say you can have him on one condition only. You let us have Ben Doak. We might lose JP's goalscoring prowess at PR ( he doesn't turn up anywhere else as yet anyway ). We give Jack Clarke his regular place back at wide left ( who does turn up away from home). Ben Doak is a wide right player, just 7 months older than SWE I might add, but with a lot more experience and would come in straight away to fill a problematic position, which will leave SWE to move sooner rather than later into his longer term position at no10. It would also be good to see the two youngsters fight out wide right between them in the short term! And I haven't forgotten a certain Wes Burns. So, how about that for a potential solution to the knock on the door? |
Philogenes shooting is premier league standard, and he has great feet both left and right but for me he is still too lightweight, gets bumped off the ball quality easily at times in the championship let alone the premier league.
I would be surprised if anyone offered enough to tempt us. |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 21:20 - Jan 2 with 495 views | Vic |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 17:21 - Jan 2 by jayessess |
It just is really. There are basically no significant transfers into the Premier League involving players like Azor who haven't played in the PL before and are over the age of 25.
Can't see that Jaden has done anything with us that would put another 75% on his value. We signed him off the back of a season at Hull where he got 18 goal contributions in the Championship. He'll likely post similar numbers this season but 2 years older. |
Unless I’m reading this wrong (which is quite possible) it looks like there are plenty of 27+ Yr olds coming into the prem.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1 |  |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 21:26 - Jan 2 with 489 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 20:12 - Jan 2 by Kieran_Knows |
I’d imagine we’d look at Mehmeti, Hackney (obviously), Hughes, Louza, Lawlor and Castledine.
Just a hunch though, I think we’ll make 2 big money signings from Europe. |
I hope so.
I think if you are looking for a striker over here you end up with a 15 million option for Joel Piroe or Lyle foster and as much as we do need a striker they don't upgrade you enough for the money you are committing. | |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 00:49 - Jan 3 with 354 views | Guthrum |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 19:48 - Jan 2 by armchaircritic59 |
Ok, say Bournemouth come knocking for JP. We say you can have him on one condition only. You let us have Ben Doak. We might lose JP's goalscoring prowess at PR ( he doesn't turn up anywhere else as yet anyway ). We give Jack Clarke his regular place back at wide left ( who does turn up away from home). Ben Doak is a wide right player, just 7 months older than SWE I might add, but with a lot more experience and would come in straight away to fill a problematic position, which will leave SWE to move sooner rather than later into his longer term position at no10. It would also be good to see the two youngsters fight out wide right between them in the short term! And I haven't forgotten a certain Wes Burns. So, how about that for a potential solution to the knock on the door? |
If we move Walle Egeli into the middle now, what happens to Nunez? Put him back to CM and that displaces Taylor/Cajuste. The first two of those have been important to our improving form, the third growing in effectiveness as the season progresses.
I'm sure Doak would strengthen us on the right, just don't agree with the rest of your proposition. | |
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| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 05:42 - Jan 3 with 299 views | MrBeckinsale |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 19:20 - Jan 2 by StokieBlue |
" the money we have chucked around in the summer to try and get promoted, why is GBP10M profit that attractive to us?"
Aren't we net negative spend with the sales of Hutch and Delap? Lots of podcasts like to highlight the money spent without factoring in the money recouped.
Agree that currently we wouldn't see a 10m profit as something to tempt us.
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The other thing is, that it wouldn’t probably be £10 million profit, as Villa would probably have a sell-on clause in the deal when we bought him too, so any profit would be reduced once that is paid out as well. | | | |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 09:01 - Jan 3 with 210 views | Wickets |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 11:41 - Jan 2 by bournemouthblue |
It doesn't feel a very Bournemouthy signing, they tend to pluck randoms out of nowhere who end up being dynamite
Philogene is very talented but a very different kind of player to Semenyo |
I think this is a very important point Phil is not really a similar type to Semenyo who looks a lot more heavy weight and strong but who knows . |  | | |
| Everybody talking about who we might get in, on 13:33 - Jan 3 with 131 views | jayessess |
Not from the Championship unless they've previously played in the Premier League. | |
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