| Martinelli 22:32 - Jan 8 with 2327 views | Miaow |
Classy. |  |
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| Martinelli on 22:33 - Jan 8 with 2310 views | SitfcB |
Should’ve seen red. |  |
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| Martinelli on 22:34 - Jan 8 with 2292 views | bournemouthblue |
| Martinelli on 22:33 - Jan 8 by SitfcB |
Should’ve seen red. |
I assume because he was yellowed, it won't be retrosprectively red carded |  |
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| Martinelli on 22:38 - Jan 8 with 2243 views | SitfcB |
| Martinelli on 22:34 - Jan 8 by bournemouthblue |
I assume because he was yellowed, it won't be retrosprectively red carded |
Probably right.
I guess the ref missed him dropping the ball on Bradley though. | |
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| Martinelli on 22:48 - Jan 8 with 2176 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Martinelli on 22:33 - Jan 8 by SitfcB |
Should’ve seen red. |
Don’t mean to sound woke but imo it ought to be a 6 match retrospective ban here.
It sets a very dangerous precedent if players can touch players on the deck who have an injury. What if going forward a player is down having landed awkwardly on their back and an opponent rolls them off the pitch and that extra movement paralyses them for life? Incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do and for all the use of VAR etc over nothing, to me that should’ve been a straight red by VAR and a massive ban. Disgraceful |  |
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| Martinelli on 22:53 - Jan 8 with 2103 views | Plums |
| Martinelli on 22:48 - Jan 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
Don’t mean to sound woke but imo it ought to be a 6 match retrospective ban here.
It sets a very dangerous precedent if players can touch players on the deck who have an injury. What if going forward a player is down having landed awkwardly on their back and an opponent rolls them off the pitch and that extra movement paralyses them for life? Incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do and for all the use of VAR etc over nothing, to me that should’ve been a straight red by VAR and a massive ban. Disgraceful |
I think that's a fair point and that's how it should be. However, for that to work, players would need to agree not to feign injury and unfortunately that isn''t going to happen.
The vast majority of players rolling on the floor aren't actually badly hurt. Tonight, they all got called out as Martinelli's awful reaction showed the consequence of that being normalised. Sadly, I doubt very many of them will consider that. |  |
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| Martinelli on 22:53 - Jan 8 with 2106 views | SitfcB |
| Martinelli on 22:48 - Jan 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
Don’t mean to sound woke but imo it ought to be a 6 match retrospective ban here.
It sets a very dangerous precedent if players can touch players on the deck who have an injury. What if going forward a player is down having landed awkwardly on their back and an opponent rolls them off the pitch and that extra movement paralyses them for life? Incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do and for all the use of VAR etc over nothing, to me that should’ve been a straight red by VAR and a massive ban. Disgraceful |
Agreed, all like to see a bit of argy bargy but you could see that was a bad injury and he got it completely wrong, really poor. | |
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| Martinelli on 23:09 - Jan 8 with 1965 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Martinelli on 22:48 - Jan 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
Don’t mean to sound woke but imo it ought to be a 6 match retrospective ban here.
It sets a very dangerous precedent if players can touch players on the deck who have an injury. What if going forward a player is down having landed awkwardly on their back and an opponent rolls them off the pitch and that extra movement paralyses them for life? Incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do and for all the use of VAR etc over nothing, to me that should’ve been a straight red by VAR and a massive ban. Disgraceful |
Wokeism has nothing to do with it [Post edited 8 Jan 23:56]
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| Martinelli on 23:09 - Jan 8 with 1971 views | barcelonablue2 |
| Martinelli on 22:53 - Jan 8 by SitfcB |
Agreed, all like to see a bit of argy bargy but you could see that was a bad injury and he got it completely wrong, really poor. |
Martinelli completely lost his head and should rightly recieve a red if ref had already stopped play. Total disrespect. On the other hand IDK if its wrong but I really didn't feel particuarly sorry for Bradley in the moment. Afterwards, obviously its gutting for any young professional if its serious but in the moment his first instinct was to shuffle onto the pitch to stop play. That was what Martinelli reacted to imo and he got the same respect any player will recieve if they roll back onto the pitch. If you do that its cynical tactics and you immediately bring into question the seriousness of your injury. Especially pointless as well since Bradley was already on the pitch and it clearly was a genuine injury...
Don't pity the referee in making decisions though by amount of play acting and howling at the top of the prem. |  | | |
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| Martinelli on 23:34 - Jan 8 with 1858 views | vapour_trail |
| Martinelli on 23:09 - Jan 8 by barcelonablue2 |
Martinelli completely lost his head and should rightly recieve a red if ref had already stopped play. Total disrespect. On the other hand IDK if its wrong but I really didn't feel particuarly sorry for Bradley in the moment. Afterwards, obviously its gutting for any young professional if its serious but in the moment his first instinct was to shuffle onto the pitch to stop play. That was what Martinelli reacted to imo and he got the same respect any player will recieve if they roll back onto the pitch. If you do that its cynical tactics and you immediately bring into question the seriousness of your injury. Especially pointless as well since Bradley was already on the pitch and it clearly was a genuine injury...
Don't pity the referee in making decisions though by amount of play acting and howling at the top of the prem. |
This seems to have been totally ignored. Martinelli was out of order but it was a reaction to Bradley pulling himself into the playing surface. He did it again after Martinelli pushed him.
Talk of a ban is a massive overreaction. |  |
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| Martinelli on 07:48 - Jan 9 with 1351 views | RobTheMonk |
| Martinelli on 23:34 - Jan 8 by vapour_trail |
This seems to have been totally ignored. Martinelli was out of order but it was a reaction to Bradley pulling himself into the playing surface. He did it again after Martinelli pushed him.
Talk of a ban is a massive overreaction. |
Arne Slot hasn't made a big deal out of it and has highlighted the timewasting antics that do go on. It's a bit like the boy who cried wolf. All these fake injuries, that it's inevitable that an actual one causes a reaction. |  | | |
| Martinelli on 08:24 - Jan 9 with 1202 views | NBVJohn |
| Martinelli on 07:48 - Jan 9 by RobTheMonk |
Arne Slot hasn't made a big deal out of it and has highlighted the timewasting antics that do go on. It's a bit like the boy who cried wolf. All these fake injuries, that it's inevitable that an actual one causes a reaction. |
Just read Slot’s comments and agree with him.
It’s very easy (and not necessarily wrong) to be critical of Martinelli but the likelihood is that if you took a sample of 10 similar incidents, particularly at the end of a game, the ‘injured’ player is faking in 8 or 9 of them. Even in this incident he appears to try and ensure that he rolls back onto the pitch.
‘Game management’ is often lauded by TV pundits. 90% of it is just plain cheating. It’s a bit rich of Keane to be so damning.
The players have developed this situation through their own behaviours. | | | |
| Martinelli on 09:22 - Jan 9 with 1039 views | waveneyblue |
| Martinelli on 08:24 - Jan 9 by NBVJohn |
Just read Slot’s comments and agree with him.
It’s very easy (and not necessarily wrong) to be critical of Martinelli but the likelihood is that if you took a sample of 10 similar incidents, particularly at the end of a game, the ‘injured’ player is faking in 8 or 9 of them. Even in this incident he appears to try and ensure that he rolls back onto the pitch.
‘Game management’ is often lauded by TV pundits. 90% of it is just plain cheating. It’s a bit rich of Keane to be so damning.
The players have developed this situation through their own behaviours. |
Totally agree.
The amount of play acting leads to this and its becoming a real problem.
Its cheating plain and simple and sonething needs to be done. |  | | |
| Martinelli on 09:29 - Jan 9 with 987 views | DanTheMan |
Agree with most in this thread, what Martinelli did wasn't right but this was bound to happen at some point given the amount of nonsense that goes on.
And we're no better with it - how many times did Chaplin have a little break during a game when we were under a bit of pressure? |  |
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| Martinelli on 09:34 - Jan 9 with 963 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Martinelli on 22:48 - Jan 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
Don’t mean to sound woke but imo it ought to be a 6 match retrospective ban here.
It sets a very dangerous precedent if players can touch players on the deck who have an injury. What if going forward a player is down having landed awkwardly on their back and an opponent rolls them off the pitch and that extra movement paralyses them for life? Incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do and for all the use of VAR etc over nothing, to me that should’ve been a straight red by VAR and a massive ban. Disgraceful |
Yes and what if there had been a massive hole behind him with spikes that he fell into and got impaled? Never mind a ban, Martinelli should be jailed for endangering life |  |
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| Martinelli on 09:53 - Jan 9 with 890 views | Wright1 |
I'm actually shocked (and as a Liverpool fan I would be a bit concerned) that he wasn't flattened by one of Bradley's team mates. That is the definition of a situation where you protect your own.
Considering Martinelli's injury history it reflects really poorly on his character. | | | |
| Martinelli on 09:55 - Jan 9 with 880 views | Garv |
| Martinelli on 22:33 - Jan 8 by SitfcB |
Should’ve seen red. |
Haha. |  |
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| Martinelli on 09:57 - Jan 9 with 878 views | Garv |
See Slot's view on it. Pretty measured and almost bang on.
With the amount of play acting that goes on can you really blame Martinelli? Bit brainless yes as Bradley fell awkwardly and was obviously in pain, but players tend to be good actors. They're all hypocrites ultimately. | |
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| Martinelli on 10:04 - Jan 9 with 835 views | Garv |
| Martinelli on 22:48 - Jan 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
Don’t mean to sound woke but imo it ought to be a 6 match retrospective ban here.
It sets a very dangerous precedent if players can touch players on the deck who have an injury. What if going forward a player is down having landed awkwardly on their back and an opponent rolls them off the pitch and that extra movement paralyses them for life? Incredibly stupid and dangerous thing to do and for all the use of VAR etc over nothing, to me that should’ve been a straight red by VAR and a massive ban. Disgraceful |
You're not being woke, you're just overreacting. | |
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| Martinelli on 10:53 - Jan 9 with 675 views | cressi |
| Martinelli on 23:34 - Jan 8 by vapour_trail |
This seems to have been totally ignored. Martinelli was out of order but it was a reaction to Bradley pulling himself into the playing surface. He did it again after Martinelli pushed him.
Talk of a ban is a massive overreaction. |
IF you watch the incident Bradley was actually still on the pitch yes he tried to get fully on but first he throws the ball at a injured player then tries to drag him off the pitch totally unacceptable. The biggest problem is players feigning injury and diving this needs eliminating from the game. Bradley like Schar the other night real horrible injuries. | | | |
| Martinelli on 11:32 - Jan 9 with 583 views | bluestandard |
| Martinelli on 23:34 - Jan 8 by vapour_trail |
This seems to have been totally ignored. Martinelli was out of order but it was a reaction to Bradley pulling himself into the playing surface. He did it again after Martinelli pushed him.
Talk of a ban is a massive overreaction. |
Yep, I've hardly seen this mentioned yet it was one of the things I noticed straight away. I think Martinelli has since come out and said that he had absolutely no idea in the moment how bad Bradleys injury was, and who could blame him, when Bradley seemed clearly well enough to shuffle not once, but twice back onto the playing surface. Yes Martinelli's reaction was stupid and deserves punishment, but if Bradleys injury had not been so serious, we wouldn't be talking about this today. | | | |
| Martinelli on 13:54 - Jan 9 with 430 views | ronnyd |
| Martinelli on 22:53 - Jan 8 by Plums |
I think that's a fair point and that's how it should be. However, for that to work, players would need to agree not to feign injury and unfortunately that isn''t going to happen.
The vast majority of players rolling on the floor aren't actually badly hurt. Tonight, they all got called out as Martinelli's awful reaction showed the consequence of that being normalised. Sadly, I doubt very many of them will consider that. |
Can't remember who it was, but either a player or coach alluded to the fact that if you were really hurt you wouldn't be rolling around making things a damn sight worse. | | | |
| Martinelli on 15:35 - Jan 9 with 340 views | ReusersTown |
| Martinelli on 23:09 - Jan 8 by barcelonablue2 |
Martinelli completely lost his head and should rightly recieve a red if ref had already stopped play. Total disrespect. On the other hand IDK if its wrong but I really didn't feel particuarly sorry for Bradley in the moment. Afterwards, obviously its gutting for any young professional if its serious but in the moment his first instinct was to shuffle onto the pitch to stop play. That was what Martinelli reacted to imo and he got the same respect any player will recieve if they roll back onto the pitch. If you do that its cynical tactics and you immediately bring into question the seriousness of your injury. Especially pointless as well since Bradley was already on the pitch and it clearly was a genuine injury...
Don't pity the referee in making decisions though by amount of play acting and howling at the top of the prem. |
The hypocrisy is that Martinelli is exactly the sort of player to do the above. | | | |
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