| Hirst 19:36 - Jan 17 with 1818 views | leftback |
I can’t believe how undervalued Hirst is by our supporters, I’ve seen very few strikers we’ve come against this season who occupy the CBs and press as well as he does. Granted his touch is not always perfect and he’s never going to be clinical.
It’s very easy to say if we had a clinical striker we could have won today by 6 or 7 but how about if Hirst doesn’t win the ball from the goal kick for our first goal taking their CB out of the game completely opening up space for Nunez then we don’t get the early goal and possibly struggle to break down a stubborn opposition, he does so much work for the team that goes unnoticed and under appreciated.
Certainly thought having him back as a focal point today contributed to our fast start |  | | |  |
| Hirst on 19:40 - Jan 17 with 1608 views | FrimleyBlue |
Hirst is the ideal back up striker. All his attributes would make him such
But for a side with our financial outlay ability and the money spent already plus the target on what we want to be as a club.. it shouldn't have hirst as its first choice striker. |  |
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| Hirst on 19:48 - Jan 17 with 1531 views | Scuzzer |
Yeah, think he has had a better game today as we were trying to play more to what his strengths are...the ones he was able to use last time in the Champ. |  |
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| Hirst on 19:50 - Jan 17 with 1498 views | Reus30 |
| Hirst on 19:40 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Hirst is the ideal back up striker. All his attributes would make him such
But for a side with our financial outlay ability and the money spent already plus the target on what we want to be as a club.. it shouldn't have hirst as its first choice striker. |
I get what you are saying but what number 9s are out there that can do a better job?
Last year we signed Delap and whilst very good, still doesn't have the traits or doesn't fit our system as much as George. Upgrade yes but we aren't fishing in that pond yet.
9s are as rare as rocking horse ... |  | | |
| Hirst on 19:51 - Jan 17 with 1485 views | pointofblue |
I thought Hirst was really good today - back to his 23/24 best perhaps. A couple of bad touches, but overall held the ball up brilliantly and brought others into play. | |
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| Hirst on 19:57 - Jan 17 with 1430 views | ReusersTown |
| Hirst on 19:40 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Hirst is the ideal back up striker. All his attributes would make him such
But for a side with our financial outlay ability and the money spent already plus the target on what we want to be as a club.. it shouldn't have hirst as its first choice striker. |
He had a good strike rate in the Prem and was better for the team than Delap when he played. Who would you say is better in the champ that you have actually seen much of. | | | |
| Hirst on 19:59 - Jan 17 with 1418 views | JakeITFC |
Yup, thought he was good today and we look a better team with him in it. |  | | |
| Hirst on 20:00 - Jan 17 with 1407 views | jas0999 |
Our best striker by a mile … and in that is the problem. Thought he worked very hard and put himself about. Decent showing. BUT … doesn’t score enough. If we are all honest he’s a mid table championship striker. Nothing wrong with that. But we do need better. [Post edited 17 Jan 20:02]
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| Hirst on 20:05 - Jan 17 with 1336 views | jasondozzell |
Yep. Spot on.
I urge any of the ignorant supporters who over years have given Hirst grief to follow him for one match. The work he gets through is ridiculous. [Post edited 17 Jan 20:05]
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| Hirst on 20:06 - Jan 17 with 1320 views | jasondozzell |
| Hirst on 20:00 - Jan 17 by jas0999 |
Our best striker by a mile … and in that is the problem. Thought he worked very hard and put himself about. Decent showing. BUT … doesn’t score enough. If we are all honest he’s a mid table championship striker. Nothing wrong with that. But we do need better. [Post edited 17 Jan 20:02]
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KM has never been about the striker being the main source of goals.
It's the team play which he values. | | | |
| Hirst on 20:12 - Jan 17 with 1249 views | Stenvict |
Hirst is good as a Championship striker for us, and good as a back up striker in the PL, as he proved last season. Let's not forget many were saying he was a better option than Delap towards the end of last season.
I thought he was very good in the 1st half today. Good 1st touch, good hold up play, physically stronger than their CBs. | |
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| Hirst on 20:15 - Jan 17 with 1217 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
His touch is off imo.
Aside from that thought he had a decent game today. Hes always involved, always working. Got faith in him. |  |
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| Hirst on 20:29 - Jan 17 with 1141 views | JakeITFC |
| Hirst on 20:00 - Jan 17 by jas0999 |
Our best striker by a mile … and in that is the problem. Thought he worked very hard and put himself about. Decent showing. BUT … doesn’t score enough. If we are all honest he’s a mid table championship striker. Nothing wrong with that. But we do need better. [Post edited 17 Jan 20:02]
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He’s a top 5 striker in this league (at worse) and I think Azon is probably in the top 15 or so too. There aren’t many better than him available at this level unfortunately. We can upgrade if we go up but just don’t think you can get them in our spot easily. | | | |
| Hirst on 20:34 - Jan 17 with 1095 views | LankHenners |
Think we get more posts complaining about people underrating him than people actually doing it!
Don't really agree with comments saying he had a good game today though to be honest - thought it was a very mixed bag and some of his work was incredibly shoddy and a big factor to the game becoming scrappy in periods as we were losing the ball every time it went into him. Think he's somewhat protected in fans' opinions to a degree by being a 'promotion hero' if truth be told.
Runs the channels well and can give defenders a battle but think he's looked well off the level we know he can reach for most of the season really. Some mitigation today given it was his first game back from injury, although he should have been brought off at least 10 minutes earlier as it was pretty obvious he was completely knackered not long into the 2nd half (not that that's his fault of course). |  |
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| Hirst on 20:51 - Jan 17 with 966 views | Ryorry |
He’s never been undervalued by me, nor many others. |  |
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| Hirst on 20:57 - Jan 17 with 929 views | NthQldITFC |
| Hirst on 20:15 - Jan 17 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
His touch is off imo.
Aside from that thought he had a decent game today. Hes always involved, always working. Got faith in him. |
His touch has been off, but he was really on it today apart from two instances that I remember. This season I think he's been trying to be very, very quick turning his man after laying it off, and therefore mistiming the layoff/not protecting the ball well enough in the instant before the lay off.
Today he got that just right, but on days when he's not quite so effective he needs to just slow it down a bit and be more solid, even if that means he loses half a yard and doesn't get away from his marker so effectively. |  |
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| Hirst on 21:07 - Jan 17 with 871 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hirst on 19:50 - Jan 17 by Reus30 |
I get what you are saying but what number 9s are out there that can do a better job?
Last year we signed Delap and whilst very good, still doesn't have the traits or doesn't fit our system as much as George. Upgrade yes but we aren't fishing in that pond yet.
9s are as rare as rocking horse ... |
There aren’t that many all round better number 9s at all. Sure, you get the Kieffer type who of course can do a job goals-wise, but don’t have the same mobility.
As an aside, I hadn’t appreciated how close the top scorer table is this year so far. Nobody’s running away with it yet - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo |  |
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| Hirst on 21:08 - Jan 17 with 861 views | seblue78 |
You have to understand football beyond the basics to understand what hirst adds and sadly a lot of the moaners don’t. Certainly those who sit near me. He was much better today and will only improve as his confidence does. We’ll do extremely well to bring someone in who can play that role better than him. Azon is also beginning to show signs he’s getting it. Although always looks better coming on as a sub to me with Hirsty starting. [Post edited 17 Jan 21:09]
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| Hirst on 21:15 - Jan 17 with 783 views | RetroBlue |
| Hirst on 19:51 - Jan 17 by pointofblue |
I thought Hirst was really good today - back to his 23/24 best perhaps. A couple of bad touches, but overall held the ball up brilliantly and brought others into play. |
100% agree with you. I too thought he had his best game for Town in a long while. Tbh i dont think goals is " his" game, which sounds absurd for a #9, but he offers so much to the team (front line) when he plays. He looked today like a player with a weight taken off his shoulders for some reason. I love him. |  |
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| Hirst on 21:17 - Jan 17 with 765 views | backwaywhen |
He’s been out for around a month and playing a little catch up today , done well in my eyes, although the ball doesn’t always stick to him like it did in the past , valuable team player . | | | |
| Hirst on 21:53 - Jan 17 with 563 views | TheBoyBlue |
I think his confidence is low. There were a couple of times he was put through that he would've hit first time and bury a couple of seasons ago, even last season, but today he took an extra touch and the chance was gone. | |
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| Hirst on 22:01 - Jan 17 with 509 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Hirst on 21:53 - Jan 17 by TheBoyBlue |
I think his confidence is low. There were a couple of times he was put through that he would've hit first time and bury a couple of seasons ago, even last season, but today he took an extra touch and the chance was gone. |
We are now in January and still being told his confidence is low. Playing 21 games in a side thats third. At what point does he feel confident?
His first game he told us scoring goals is what he does. The confidence was there the application hasn't been. Thats ok he offers alot of other attributes. But I just feel hes been incredibly average and often poor and imo thats not what should be accepted as a starter in our lineup.
If we were that league 1 promotion team stabilising in the champ. Its a different discussion. | |
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| Hirst on 22:03 - Jan 17 with 495 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Watching a different game to me today, he’s runs the channels and good press, which is his job but everytime he’s set free himself he looks so awkward can’t get his shot off.
Looks clumsy at times with his feet. Sometimes his touch and hold up is decent and others it’s poor. Azon was more of a handful that him and seems to get in more scoring positions (if only he could convert), also done the Hirst style job well to initially spring Cajuste for the third.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Hirst but it hasn’t been a great season considering he’s playing in a team with so much talent compared to the opposition as well, I would have been expecting a lot more from him. |  |
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| Hirst on 22:07 - Jan 17 with 469 views | BouncebackIpswich |
Think he's regressed this season and become at times a bit donkey like, a lot of his technical ability seems to have deserted him. It's quite mystifying, he's probably just about good enough to get us over the line but if anyone comes in who's genuinely class then he's straight back on the bench. |  | | |
| Hirst on 22:11 - Jan 17 with 437 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hirst on 22:07 - Jan 17 by BouncebackIpswich |
Think he's regressed this season and become at times a bit donkey like, a lot of his technical ability seems to have deserted him. It's quite mystifying, he's probably just about good enough to get us over the line but if anyone comes in who's genuinely class then he's straight back on the bench. |
Thought he had a decent end of last season a division up as well. It’s all a bit odd. | |
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| Hirst on 22:12 - Jan 17 with 433 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Hirst on 22:01 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
We are now in January and still being told his confidence is low. Playing 21 games in a side thats third. At what point does he feel confident?
His first game he told us scoring goals is what he does. The confidence was there the application hasn't been. Thats ok he offers alot of other attributes. But I just feel hes been incredibly average and often poor and imo thats not what should be accepted as a starter in our lineup.
If we were that league 1 promotion team stabilising in the champ. Its a different discussion. |
I don't disagree. If we can find a natural finisher who is full of confidence we ought to do all we can to get him.
Although I also think Hirst has a big part to play here. | |
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