| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back 08:52 - Jan 18 with 1563 views | thebooks |
Thought it was noticeable that we played out a lot more yesterday, taking more risks, but generally doing OK. Not Burns versus Coventry levels, but certainly better than the Lambert style shovel it across to Furlong then hit it down the line we’ve seen a little of this season.
Quite a few fans around me were getting annoyed at this. Trust the process, comrades.
Also: stop moaning at every single ball that doesn’t stick to Hirst immediately. Can you not go one season without finding someone to have a go at?
Taylor v Cajuste is interesting. Taylor gets a good tackle in and gees the team up, but then Cajuste comes on and produces two slide rule passes, one leading to a goal the other to what should have been a penalty.
Anyway, just feeling more confident at games now, even if we’re not quite there. We’ll win this league. |  | | |  |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 08:58 - Jan 18 with 1501 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I don’t see how that’s a change from what we’ve been doing all season. The only difference is Blackburn aggressively pressed leading to (almost) dangerous errors. Recent opposition-Coventry and Oxford largely stood off and didn’t close Walton down. |  | | |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 08:58 - Jan 18 with 1498 views | bazza |
I went through 3 pairs of pants yesterday when Walton passed the ball out. |  | | |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:40 - Jan 18 with 1334 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
I thought we went long more than usual yesterday! |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:51 - Jan 18 with 1274 views | bsw72 |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:40 - Jan 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I thought we went long more than usual yesterday! |
And I think that sums up how much more varied our play has become. You’ve seen a lot more long balls while the OP was commenting on the short play more like 23-4.
The truth is probably more in the middle as KM’s tactics seem to have evolved and developed, with fewer sides being able to contain us through a single approach. |  | | |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:56 - Jan 18 with 1246 views | Basuco |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:40 - Jan 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I thought we went long more than usual yesterday! |
We mixed it up well yesterday, we are not at all predictable, long or playing out caused Blackburn problems, I agree that we are taking more risks playing out and there was a brilliant moment where Walton had two Blackburn players closing him down, he delayed taking the kick so they were quite close and that took them out of play, there was Sindre, I think, wide right and we created a great chance to score. Dara then gave Walton a thumbs up to show that passage of play was planed and practiced on the training pitch. Great to see and so much of our play is about a specific aim that we humble supporters find it difficult to see, but looking at replays later on TV you can sometimes see it. Goals are often created a lot further back the the highlights show. |  | | |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:19 - Jan 18 with 1165 views | Meadowlark |
Walton doesn't need to do that every time though, does he? I exaggerate. I know he didn't do it *every* time, but sometimes it looked like he was just doing it for the sake of doing it.
And you must agree that the ball was not sticking to Hirst very well at all! I don't tend to moan, I try to encourage but I must admit I mumbled under my breath a bit at both Walton and Hirst yesterday. Not having a go - just a bit frustrated.
And Sindre was a bit off the pace yesterday. I wonder if he needs a break?
Not moans, Just observations. I heard McKenna say after the game that there were a couple of silly moments in defence that "we need to take a look at." He wasn't moaning either.
Anyway. I agree. We'll win this league! [Post edited 18 Jan 13:22]
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:24 - Jan 18 with 1125 views | NthQldITFC |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 08:58 - Jan 18 by bazza |
I went through 3 pairs of pants yesterday when Walton passed the ball out. |
You could always lash it to your leg? |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:30 - Jan 18 with 1095 views | cbower |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:40 - Jan 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I thought we went long more than usual yesterday! |
Me too. I thought there was a decent mix and Walton went long quite a bit. Mixing it up is, for me, far more effective than just constantly looking to play out alone. |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:34 - Jan 18 with 1071 views | Guthrum |
Thing is, it's not a situation of Taylor or Cajuste, but a matter of ustilising the different qualities of each, at different points in a game and against different opponents.
We have a large number of substitutions available and a deep, high-quality squad. It would be foolish not to take tactical advantage of that. After all, for Ipswich under McKenna, it's a tried and tested route to success.
Players (midfield and forwards) just have to get used to the fact that they will play in pretty much every match, but not necessarily as guaranteed starters or for the full 90+ minutes. If that puts potential signings off, then so be it - they won't fit our methods.
I get the impression, from things said in interviews, that McKenna explains all that from the outset. |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 11:03 - Jan 18 with 972 views | Guthrum |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:51 - Jan 18 by bsw72 |
And I think that sums up how much more varied our play has become. You’ve seen a lot more long balls while the OP was commenting on the short play more like 23-4.
The truth is probably more in the middle as KM’s tactics seem to have evolved and developed, with fewer sides being able to contain us through a single approach. |
We have to do both as the aggressive high press can disrupt the playing out from the back, so must be by-passed overhead, but it is also necessary to encourage it sufficiently that their players are drawn out of position for our runs in behind. | |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 11:06 - Jan 18 with 954 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:40 - Jan 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I thought we went long more than usual yesterday! |
We did after having quite a few problems dealing with Blackburn's press! |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 11:08 - Jan 18 with 951 views | cbower |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:34 - Jan 18 by Guthrum |
Thing is, it's not a situation of Taylor or Cajuste, but a matter of ustilising the different qualities of each, at different points in a game and against different opponents.
We have a large number of substitutions available and a deep, high-quality squad. It would be foolish not to take tactical advantage of that. After all, for Ipswich under McKenna, it's a tried and tested route to success.
Players (midfield and forwards) just have to get used to the fact that they will play in pretty much every match, but not necessarily as guaranteed starters or for the full 90+ minutes. If that puts potential signings off, then so be it - they won't fit our methods.
I get the impression, from things said in interviews, that McKenna explains all that from the outset. |
Starting Taylor alongside Matusiwa gives us a better chance of winning the midfield battle which earns us the right to play a bit more. That's where Cajuste comes in. When Azor gets his 10th booking, it will be interesting to see what happens for those 2 games. | |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 11:10 - Jan 18 with 939 views | Nutkins_Return |
For us it's all about how we are playing. Our fans often see it as us playing well or badly in games but a lot of it comes down to who we are playing.
Cov away we we absolutely fantastic in possession because there was space to play through. When teams play a low block we've sussed how not to get caught out (like the Charlton game) but it can be a much more dull watch. But we are working it out now and getting results. | |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 11:15 - Jan 18 with 903 views | Garv |
Taylor and Cajuste are dovetailing brilliantly at the moment.
I thought Cajuste would start as he's generally better at home, but in hindsight with it being a fairly physical game it made sense to for Taylor to play. Cajuste then coming on against tiring legs was lovely, he made a lot of what he did looked very easy, and he looked more physically imposing than usual for some reason.
If any midfielder signs and starts partnering Matusiwa straight away, we'll have made a very good signing. |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 11:21 - Jan 18 with 862 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:30 - Jan 18 by cbower |
Me too. I thought there was a decent mix and Walton went long quite a bit. Mixing it up is, for me, far more effective than just constantly looking to play out alone. |
I did have a little chuckle when Walton played a mare of a ball to Matusiwa and then berated him for not dealing with it better, never a dull moment playing out under a press. | |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 12:48 - Jan 18 with 697 views | backwaywhen |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:19 - Jan 18 by Meadowlark |
Walton doesn't need to do that every time though, does he? I exaggerate. I know he didn't do it *every* time, but sometimes it looked like he was just doing it for the sake of doing it.
And you must agree that the ball was not sticking to Hirst very well at all! I don't tend to moan, I try to encourage but I must admit I mumbled under my breath a bit at both Walton and Hirst yesterday. Not having a go - just a bit frustrated.
And Sindre was a bit off the pace yesterday. I wonder if he needs a break?
Not moans, Just observations. I heard McKenna say after the game that there were a couple of silly moments in defence that "we need to take a look at." He wasn't moaning either.
Anyway. I agree. We'll win this league! [Post edited 18 Jan 13:22]
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Hirst has been out for a few weeks , first game back and a little rusty but still done well. | | | |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 13:06 - Jan 18 with 664 views | ghostofescobar |
Mmmm, funny how we see things differently. I thought we played out just as much, in fact I think we went long to Hirst much more often than normal. And I thought there was less nervousness from the crowd around me when we were playing out!! We play out from the back to draw teams onto us, to try and get through any kind of low block or packed midfield. If fans don’t know this by now, then………..I won’t type what I think. We are definitely hitting that sharp, diagonal ball on the floor from our full backs into Hirst more. Seems to be something they are working on. Won’t work very often, but when Hirst can lay one of those off to a runner, it really cuts opposition teams open. |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 14:39 - Jan 18 with 513 views | Bramidan |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 13:06 - Jan 18 by ghostofescobar |
Mmmm, funny how we see things differently. I thought we played out just as much, in fact I think we went long to Hirst much more often than normal. And I thought there was less nervousness from the crowd around me when we were playing out!! We play out from the back to draw teams onto us, to try and get through any kind of low block or packed midfield. If fans don’t know this by now, then………..I won’t type what I think. We are definitely hitting that sharp, diagonal ball on the floor from our full backs into Hirst more. Seems to be something they are working on. Won’t work very often, but when Hirst can lay one of those off to a runner, it really cuts opposition teams open. |
I thought Hirst played well, got a few flick ons to midfielders following up and kept their central defender always occupied.
He brings others into the game. | | | |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 14:40 - Jan 18 with 510 views | Vic |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 09:40 - Jan 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I thought we went long more than usual yesterday! |
The online Blackburn comms commented during the 2nd half that McKenner obviously said something about the (what he considered to be risky) passing at the back because we were playing it longer and sooner in the 2nd half.
Personally I thought they mixed it up well. |  |
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| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 15:45 - Jan 18 with 389 views | Garv |
| Starting to see the return of 23-24 passing out from the back on 10:34 - Jan 18 by Guthrum |
Thing is, it's not a situation of Taylor or Cajuste, but a matter of ustilising the different qualities of each, at different points in a game and against different opponents.
We have a large number of substitutions available and a deep, high-quality squad. It would be foolish not to take tactical advantage of that. After all, for Ipswich under McKenna, it's a tried and tested route to success.
Players (midfield and forwards) just have to get used to the fact that they will play in pretty much every match, but not necessarily as guaranteed starters or for the full 90+ minutes. If that puts potential signings off, then so be it - they won't fit our methods.
I get the impression, from things said in interviews, that McKenna explains all that from the outset. |
How different would you say that is to other clubs in terms of starters/subs and minutes (or lack of)?
I would have thought fairly similar but maybe not. | |
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