| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? 22:34 - Feb 4 with 1572 views | Melford |
Not with the Lizard People, but the idea of a global Illuminati who control everything that get up to all sorts of weird sh!t.
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 22:58 - Feb 4 with 1480 views | bluelagos |
No
Clearly there are huge issues around people of power, wealth and influence and the inability of law enforcement to hold them to account.
But that's a long way from buying into the paranoid bollox of Mr Icke. |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 23:05 - Feb 4 with 1449 views | MattinLondon |
| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 22:58 - Feb 4 by bluelagos |
No
Clearly there are huge issues around people of power, wealth and influence and the inability of law enforcement to hold them to account.
But that's a long way from buying into the paranoid bollox of Mr Icke. |
Influential and powerful people are not all corrupt or lack moral fibre but they probably all migrate towards one another. Discussing various issues and plotting how to make their desired outcomes reality.
But I don’t think that there’s a shadowy organisation pulling all of the strings. If they were that powerful and influential then there be no reason to stay in the shadows. |  | | |
| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 23:25 - Feb 4 with 1381 views | lowhouseblue |
the sad truth is that many people in positions of power and influence, who enjoy all the trappings that come with that and have good upper middle class lifestyles, look at billionaires and think "but its not fair, i want the yacht and the private island and the private jet and all of that. if i suck up to them enough i can get those things." it's not organised or conspiratorial, it's pure undiluted avarice - moderately well of people desperately thinking they should have what the billionaires have. |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 23:46 - Feb 4 with 1351 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
That’s very much like asking if ‘mad Dave’ who used to hang around outside The Range in a mobility scooter shouting that the Queen was killed by squirrels had a point. |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 08:21 - Feb 5 with 990 views | Pendejo |
Yeah I'm gonna run with this one, sort of...r
Shape shifting lizards yeah?
Ok
Shape shifting - a metaphor for being able to change themselves or others to achieve desired outcomes
Lizards - cold blooded, rational? A metaphor like the above
As for staying in the shadows; gives the illusion of democracy and free will, whereas the spin from certain quarters of the media, especially the further "personal" reach of social media, shaping decisions away from critical thinking free will, to an influenced illusion of free will.
Divide & conquer!
Orwell's writings continue to be relevant today, and I'm sure there are other works of literature written decades ago that can be applied, and then there's The Simpsons
I've just seen on Breakfast TV a Labour MP saying that when Mandy (Eye passim) stayed at Epstein's place, whilst Epstein was in prison, he still was able to pass this off as "hardly knew the chap", so I guess Epstein created a high brow Air BnB with benefits.
From what I've read there's quite a few suicides amongst people associated with Epstein case including the man himself, makes you wonder if Putin runs their clean up ops |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 12:11 - Feb 5 with 758 views | TractorWood |
He was right that there was a problem but probably where it ends. |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 12:14 - Feb 5 with 746 views | jayessess |
This is the "antisemitism is the socialism of fools" thing. There is of course a global elite whose wealth allows them to do pretty much anything they want to anyone they want and broadly exert control in world affairs.
But, no they aren't a secretive cabal of aliens, lizards, Jews, Illuminati or what have you. It's just capitalism, they're just capitalists. Concentration of wealth gives people power and people abuse power. [Post edited 5 Feb 19:32]
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 12:15 - Feb 5 with 744 views | baxterbasics |
I'm very resistant to the popular idea (amongst conspiracy types anyway) that there's a single shadowy group pulling all the stings.
There are various powerful groups and actors exerting influence and manipulating events to their own agenda. They aren't all aligned all of the time, and most of them are hiding in plain sight, not meeting in some secret underground lair where they also sacrifice babies. |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 12:26 - Feb 5 with 678 views | positivity |
| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 22:58 - Feb 4 by bluelagos |
No
Clearly there are huge issues around people of power, wealth and influence and the inability of law enforcement to hold them to account.
But that's a long way from buying into the paranoid bollox of Mr Icke. |
looking at the votes on this thread, is david icke present amongst us, masquerading as "Tambu"?! |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 12:27 - Feb 5 with 664 views | lowhouseblue |
| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 12:14 - Feb 5 by jayessess |
This is the "antisemitism is the socialism of fools" thing. There is of course a global elite whose wealth allows them to do pretty much anything they want to anyone they want and broadly exert control in world affairs.
But, no they aren't a secretive cabal of aliens, lizards, Jews, Illuminati or what have you. It's just capitalism, they're just capitalists. Concentration of wealth gives people power and people abuse power. [Post edited 5 Feb 19:32]
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and in all seriousness, if you were setting up a secret cabal of lizards and illuminati etc would you include andrew, fergie and noam chomsky? jeez, the first two don't have the iq of a gerbil if you put them both together.
this is just about greed and the extent to which prominent people will debase themselves for stuff they can't otherwise get. it's a case study in the grubby graspiness of already well-off people. | |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 16:10 - Feb 5 with 530 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I believe he talked about a massive hidden pedo ring that involved heads of business, countries and royalty etc, so in that case he was spot on. |  |
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| When you read the Epstein files, was David Icke kind of right? on 16:45 - Feb 5 with 467 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
You also have the conspiracy theory that Jill Dando was murdered by a hitman as she was about to reveal a pedophile ring!
I don't subscribe to either but the fact that the powerful and wealthy comment about making "people disappear" is a worry. All these revelations in Epstein files but no prosecutions says a lot!
Billionaires and millionaires shouldn't be allowed in a fair society. |  |
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