| The actual Attorney General of the USA 09:29 - Feb 12 with 1221 views | ElderGrizzly | Deranged (and dangerous) Also a cold hearted callous example of a human being |  | | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:13 - Feb 12 with 1093 views | Basuco | A case of "look over there, not at our cover up of this." |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:19 - Feb 12 with 1071 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:13 - Feb 12 by Basuco | A case of "look over there, not at our cover up of this." |
But the stock market!! |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:24 - Feb 12 with 1038 views | J2BLUE | Didn't Trump openly say he hires lawyers based on their looks? |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:29 - Feb 12 with 1037 views | redrickstuhaart | What is striking and appalling is that you have someone at the head of the justice system, being clearly political rather than even pretending to have any interest in her actual primary job. She uses the same language and arguments as Trump. Unfortunately for the decent people in the states, the whole legal system there is politicised in a bizarre and dangerous manner which is now coming home to roost in troubling fashion. |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:55 - Feb 12 with 964 views | Axeldalai_lama | It's just the absolute simplicity of the injustice of it all over there. It's literally everything you tell your kids not to do and how to behave. It's so obviously tribal and so obvious that in supporting them you're supporting the bad guys but you think they're on your side so it doesn't matter. And it's coming over here at a rate of knots. |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:58 - Feb 12 with 947 views | TRUE_BLUE123 | Amateurs. Only got the job because they were willing to defend Trump being Epstein's best mate. I cant wait to have our government positions made up of Lee Anderson, Sarah Pochin and Lucy Connolly. |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:07 - Feb 12 with 905 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:58 - Feb 12 by TRUE_BLUE123 | Amateurs. Only got the job because they were willing to defend Trump being Epstein's best mate. I cant wait to have our government positions made up of Lee Anderson, Sarah Pochin and Lucy Connolly. |
It's going to be an absolute sh1t show, I'm genuinely interested, if that's the right word, as to how their support will react. I don't think we're quite as tribal over here, but as we see on here with certain posters, many just don't care about facts and consequences. I've very little doubt that they'll get in as we speak, I hope and pray that it dies a quick death and is rounded on and obliterated for the absolute shambles it will be and we learn a huge huge lesson. That may be wishful thinking. |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:07 - Feb 12 with 899 views | Samuelowen88 | How dare you accuse the most transparent president ever! |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:11 - Feb 12 with 874 views | GlasgowBlue | |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:14 - Feb 12 with 859 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:29 - Feb 12 by redrickstuhaart | What is striking and appalling is that you have someone at the head of the justice system, being clearly political rather than even pretending to have any interest in her actual primary job. She uses the same language and arguments as Trump. Unfortunately for the decent people in the states, the whole legal system there is politicised in a bizarre and dangerous manner which is now coming home to roost in troubling fashion. |
The democratic backsliding is happening at a frantic pace and her actions are just part of the whole. Apparently, the dismantling of norms is happening quicker than any other regime where the head was voted in (e.g. Putin, Orban) and even quicker than under some military coup leaders, such as Pinochet. All the groundwork is there for a full autocratic (authoritarian, fascist, call it what you want) takeover and that could happen as soon as the midterms. He’s clearly sowing the seeds that will allow voters to be intimidated and the result to be ignored and spun as something it wasn’t. His supporters will believe it and his sycophant inner circle will readily promote such a lie, as they continually have over the 2020 election. He didn’t have his own vastly expanded militarised force to enforce the lie back then, but does now. We’ll see. Maybe he won’t go that far, but everything so far suggests that’s where this could end up; another Russia effectively. [Post edited 12 Feb 11:26]
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:22 - Feb 12 with 828 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:07 - Feb 12 by Axeldalai_lama | It's going to be an absolute sh1t show, I'm genuinely interested, if that's the right word, as to how their support will react. I don't think we're quite as tribal over here, but as we see on here with certain posters, many just don't care about facts and consequences. I've very little doubt that they'll get in as we speak, I hope and pray that it dies a quick death and is rounded on and obliterated for the absolute shambles it will be and we learn a huge huge lesson. That may be wishful thinking. |
It is hard to say because what was previously expected of elected officials has completely gone out of the window. Reform MPs say overtly racist things and it doesn't even make a splash. When they see Lee Anderson as home secretary you would think they would then realise the mistake they have made. |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:40 - Feb 12 with 748 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:22 - Feb 12 by TRUE_BLUE123 | It is hard to say because what was previously expected of elected officials has completely gone out of the window. Reform MPs say overtly racist things and it doesn't even make a splash. When they see Lee Anderson as home secretary you would think they would then realise the mistake they have made. |
You'd like to think so, but will it get to American levels where these utter charlatans will just need to say they're taking back the country or restoring British values or a few racist dog whistles and the support will be happy? I'm clinging to the fact that there will only be a core of that type and a lot who vote for them will do so out of protest and desperation for want of better words, and will quickly realise what no hopers they are and how unsuited they are in reality. |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:42 - Feb 12 with 743 views | redrickstuhaart |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:40 - Feb 12 by Axeldalai_lama | You'd like to think so, but will it get to American levels where these utter charlatans will just need to say they're taking back the country or restoring British values or a few racist dog whistles and the support will be happy? I'm clinging to the fact that there will only be a core of that type and a lot who vote for them will do so out of protest and desperation for want of better words, and will quickly realise what no hopers they are and how unsuited they are in reality. |
Hopefully our institutions are somewhat stronger- given we have independent judiciary and a soverign parliament which has to pass legislation rather than the executive decrees that Trump is using. |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:46 - Feb 12 with 727 views | eireblue |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:40 - Feb 12 by Axeldalai_lama | You'd like to think so, but will it get to American levels where these utter charlatans will just need to say they're taking back the country or restoring British values or a few racist dog whistles and the support will be happy? I'm clinging to the fact that there will only be a core of that type and a lot who vote for them will do so out of protest and desperation for want of better words, and will quickly realise what no hopers they are and how unsuited they are in reality. |
Brexit got done. Turned out to be crap, as many people predicted. Some people even predicted increase in immigration. But, of course, Farage says….oh it was done badly. If they get in power, and when things go wrong, as they have done in councils, they will just blame someone else…..leftie civil servants, leftie lawyers, judges, the previous lot made such a big mess…too many people not embracing the British Bulldog spirit…Gen Z being lazy….their supporters will agree with it all. |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:47 - Feb 12 with 714 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:55 - Feb 12 by Axeldalai_lama | It's just the absolute simplicity of the injustice of it all over there. It's literally everything you tell your kids not to do and how to behave. It's so obviously tribal and so obvious that in supporting them you're supporting the bad guys but you think they're on your side so it doesn't matter. And it's coming over here at a rate of knots. |
With Musk, Bannon and Farage at the heart |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 12:16 - Feb 12 with 614 views | lowhouseblue |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:29 - Feb 12 by redrickstuhaart | What is striking and appalling is that you have someone at the head of the justice system, being clearly political rather than even pretending to have any interest in her actual primary job. She uses the same language and arguments as Trump. Unfortunately for the decent people in the states, the whole legal system there is politicised in a bizarre and dangerous manner which is now coming home to roost in troubling fashion. |
your final para is spot on. the process didn't start at this hearing - though it takes it to an obscene extreme. the us system - a deeply politicised judicial system - has been exploited by both parties. trump is just totally shameless about it. |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 12:23 - Feb 12 with 593 views | Guthrum |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:42 - Feb 12 by redrickstuhaart | Hopefully our institutions are somewhat stronger- given we have independent judiciary and a soverign parliament which has to pass legislation rather than the executive decrees that Trump is using. |
The independent judiciary not being specifically political appointees is a massive difference. The Supreme Court, as the backstop for the US constitution, has been completely perverted. UK limits on election spending are also very significant. Since the ruling that organisations and businesses are entities with rights under the 1st Amendment, there are basically no limits on the money which supposedly independent political action committees (PACs) can pump in. Thus effectively allowing the buying of elections. We still have strict limits, which are enforced. I still doubt that Reform will be able to go from winning four seats to an outright Commons majority in just one five-year cycle. Current polling at best has them being the largest party, based upon percentage share (which will be affected by things like regional concentration of support). Averages of polls appear to indicate that support has peaked and is on the decline, tho of course that may change during the next three-and-a-bit years. |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 12:32 - Feb 12 with 548 views | JackNorthStand |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 10:19 - Feb 12 by ElderGrizzly | But the stock market!! |
Why an earth is an attorney general even discussing the stock market, especially as a metric of her doing her job. Incredible. |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 13:11 - Feb 12 with 386 views | Churchman |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:14 - Feb 12 by Swansea_Blue | The democratic backsliding is happening at a frantic pace and her actions are just part of the whole. Apparently, the dismantling of norms is happening quicker than any other regime where the head was voted in (e.g. Putin, Orban) and even quicker than under some military coup leaders, such as Pinochet. All the groundwork is there for a full autocratic (authoritarian, fascist, call it what you want) takeover and that could happen as soon as the midterms. He’s clearly sowing the seeds that will allow voters to be intimidated and the result to be ignored and spun as something it wasn’t. His supporters will believe it and his sycophant inner circle will readily promote such a lie, as they continually have over the 2020 election. He didn’t have his own vastly expanded militarised force to enforce the lie back then, but does now. We’ll see. Maybe he won’t go that far, but everything so far suggests that’s where this could end up; another Russia effectively. [Post edited 12 Feb 11:26]
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This is how I see it. The fundamental principle that governs everything is ‘might is right’. If you are Trump or one of his henchpeople you are right, what you say cannot and must not be questioned. If you are hostile, you are nothing. You have no say, no influence and no point. If you hold power it is your right to do as you please. You will confirm to the normal or old processes until they challenge you - then you get rid of them. That goes for allies and enemies. We now live in the ‘post truth’ era. In other words the old pre war days and in fact further back than that. Since alternative views no longer exist or can be tolerated, neither do you. It is clear the Attorney General is plenty of cards short of a full deck, but fits perfectly in trump’s world. America is now a hostile. In the meantime, the U.K. politicians squabble amongst themselves, prioritise the wrong things and look ripe for the mad failures of Farage to fill the void - and it doesn’t take a genius to work out where that takes us. |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 13:49 - Feb 12 with 219 views | Illinoisblue | Not the most important point, but she’s 60 years old. 60! |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 14:04 - Feb 12 with 161 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 11:47 - Feb 12 by ElderGrizzly | With Musk, Bannon and Farage at the heart |
apparently his cars are decent though...oh and X is where I get all my footy news from...... |  | |  |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 14:35 - Feb 12 with 95 views | Whos_blue | But she cares about the victims. She said so, so it must be true. I haven't checked but has Trump spoken since that performance? |  |
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| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 15:01 - Feb 12 with 28 views | ElderGrizzly |
| The actual Attorney General of the USA on 14:35 - Feb 12 by Whos_blue | But she cares about the victims. She said so, so it must be true. I haven't checked but has Trump spoken since that performance? |
She was also the AG in Florida while all this was going on and never prosecuted anyone. It’s almost like she might be up to her neck in it |  | |  |
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