| The split in the far-right vote 04:10 - Feb 18 with 9171 views | The_Romford_Blue | Great to see. Albeit Lowe on Twitter is disturbing. Anyone on here willing to admit they would vote Restore? Makes Farage and his lot look moderate in comparison some of that nazi sh** coming from Lowe. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 06:37 - Feb 20 with 465 views | NewcyBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 06:26 - Feb 20 by Benters | Is it ? I don’t think I the navy are on pedalos Pugwash |
They’d have more success on pedalos! |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 06:56 - Feb 20 with 422 views | noggin |
| The split in the far-right vote on 04:29 - Feb 20 by Benters | But those people are entering our country illegally? Is that ok then? |
British and allied troops entered Iraq illegally and were responsible for far more deaths than any of these asylum seekers will ever be. Is that ok then? |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:20 - Feb 20 with 384 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The split in the far-right vote on 20:52 - Feb 19 by Swansea_Blue | I’ve just had a quick scan through the last couple of pages, and I think you’re allowing yourselves to get distracted here. Intercepting or returning asylum seekers isn’t a unique feature of Restore Britain and isn’t news or worthy of discussion imo (it’s the Tory/Reform and increasingly Labour status quo position). The pertinent issue is that Restore Britain goes A LOT further on the remigration and identity issues. They believe only ethnically “indigenous” (i.e. white Anglo Saxon) and Christian people can be British. Now, where have we heard about ethnical purity before…? Given that 37M people identify as non-Christian and 10M Brits have an ethic minority ancestral background, their position is clearly crackers as well as being racist and religiously intolerant. It’s undoubtedly a fascist mindset. It’s a fascist as we’ve had in Parliament since Mosley (I think, although historian buffs may know better. Enoch Powell wasn’t quite as intolerant when he made his Rivers of Blood speech as he was still talking about voluntary remigration, not forced like Restore Britain members are). |
Blimey, so even though my family tree has been traced by my uncle back to a general who came over with William the Conqueror, I can't call myself British because I'm not Christian?! |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:21 - Feb 20 with 385 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 06:00 - Feb 20 by chicoazul | I mean, you did ask. Money can always be found for this stuff so resourcing won’t be a problem especially if we don’t have to pay millions on housing welfare and legal aid for asylum seekers. It’s really easy operationally by informed accounts “not even in the top 100 most difficult problems” if we are out of the ECHR. Once we stop importing lots of men from some of the worst places in the world, perhaps we can then start banging up and deporting the ones who are part of the grooming gangs. |
Delusional nonsense with a side order of racism. No wonder you and Benters are on the same page these days. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:33 - Feb 20 with 350 views | JackNorthStand |
| The split in the far-right vote on 22:39 - Feb 19 by Herbivore | Or they could come up with a decent and humane solution instead maybe. |
What are your thoughts on allowing asylum to be applied for, whilst outside of the UK? Changing the process as it currently is. Would this have a positive effect on discouraging people to enter the UK illegally on small boats? |  | |  |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:36 - Feb 20 with 344 views | noggin |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:20 - Feb 20 by The_Flashing_Smile | Blimey, so even though my family tree has been traced by my uncle back to a general who came over with William the Conqueror, I can't call myself British because I'm not Christian?! |
"Blimey, so even though my family tree has been traced by my uncle back to a general who came over with William the Conqueror" So a man who left his family behind and traveled to south England on a boat? Sounds like you should be in Rwanda. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:40 - Feb 20 with 322 views | noggin |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:33 - Feb 20 by JackNorthStand | What are your thoughts on allowing asylum to be applied for, whilst outside of the UK? Changing the process as it currently is. Would this have a positive effect on discouraging people to enter the UK illegally on small boats? |
Where would you place this asylum application centre and how would you get people to go there? |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:44 - Feb 20 with 301 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:33 - Feb 20 by JackNorthStand | What are your thoughts on allowing asylum to be applied for, whilst outside of the UK? Changing the process as it currently is. Would this have a positive effect on discouraging people to enter the UK illegally on small boats? |
The scheme Labour have agreed with France effectively does this, though not fully. We will take legitimate asylum applicants from France in return for them taking people who have crossed the channel in small boats. As a general principle I think setting up an asylum processing centre in France would be a good idea. People could then claim in France for asylum in the UK without having to make a dangerous crossing in a small boat. Sadly, none of the major parties are willing to go down that route because too many people want us to take zero asylum seekers rather than making it safer for them to apply and come to the UK where they have a genuine claim. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:48 - Feb 20 with 297 views | StokieBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 06:22 - Feb 20 by chicoazul | There are literally camps for them at the moment. They’re free to come and go; they are housed at camps. |
The post I replied to didn't sound at all like the "camps" they have at the moment, pretty sure he's not implying they should be allowed to come and go as they please. You know that though. SB |  | |  |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:51 - Feb 20 with 278 views | chicoazul |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:21 - Feb 20 by Herbivore | Delusional nonsense with a side order of racism. No wonder you and Benters are on the same page these days. |
I don’t know why you’re so upset with me, you asked the question. I don’t think we should do most of those things, apart from leaving the ECHR. It’s not delusion to say the Navy can intercept the small boats if we ask them to considering Border Force already collect about 35000 people a year from the channel. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:52 - Feb 20 with 276 views | chicoazul |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:48 - Feb 20 by StokieBlue | The post I replied to didn't sound at all like the "camps" they have at the moment, pretty sure he's not implying they should be allowed to come and go as they please. You know that though. SB |
Ahh so you were talking about what you knew he actually meant. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 07:58 - Feb 20 with 247 views | StokieBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:52 - Feb 20 by chicoazul | Ahh so you were talking about what you knew he actually meant. |
I was talking about the implication of the post given his previous posts in this thread. Context is important and pretty clear in this case in my view. Once again, you know this though. SB |  | |  |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:00 - Feb 20 with 239 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:51 - Feb 20 by chicoazul | I don’t know why you’re so upset with me, you asked the question. I don’t think we should do most of those things, apart from leaving the ECHR. It’s not delusion to say the Navy can intercept the small boats if we ask them to considering Border Force already collect about 35000 people a year from the channel. |
I'm not upset with you, I don't care about you enough to be upset with you. However, what you posted in your previous post isn't even dog whistling, ithe rhetoric about importing people from the worst countries in the world and making tenuous links between asylum seekers and grooming gangs is the stuff of far right cranks. As is the idea that we should leave the ECHR and be like Russia and Belarus. As is the idea we should use the navy to patrol the whole channel. As is the idea we can or should unilaterally return people to France. You've always flirted with far right crankery, your love of Peter Hitchens for example, but you've gone down a pretty horrible rabbit hole on this one. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:00 - Feb 20 with 237 views | chicoazul |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:58 - Feb 20 by StokieBlue | I was talking about the implication of the post given his previous posts in this thread. Context is important and pretty clear in this case in my view. Once again, you know this though. SB |
It seems only one of us knows what other people really mean. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:06 - Feb 20 with 224 views | StokieBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:00 - Feb 20 by chicoazul | It seems only one of us knows what other people really mean. |
He's not challenged my point despite posting afterwards so perhaps it's exactly what he meant? Glad you're back to doing you though. I'll leave it there. SB |  | |  |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:11 - Feb 20 with 211 views | chicoazul |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:00 - Feb 20 by Herbivore | I'm not upset with you, I don't care about you enough to be upset with you. However, what you posted in your previous post isn't even dog whistling, ithe rhetoric about importing people from the worst countries in the world and making tenuous links between asylum seekers and grooming gangs is the stuff of far right cranks. As is the idea that we should leave the ECHR and be like Russia and Belarus. As is the idea we should use the navy to patrol the whole channel. As is the idea we can or should unilaterally return people to France. You've always flirted with far right crankery, your love of Peter Hitchens for example, but you've gone down a pretty horrible rabbit hole on this one. |
You mean, you disagree. That’s ok. I know this topic like the many many others you argue about makes you very upset. But I fail to see what’s cranky about our forces patrolling the channel considering that’s literally what already happens. In Afghan women aren’t even second class citizens; in Pakistan they barely are. Maybe that doesn’t make them some of the worst countries in the world but I don’t think so. And don’t you yourself say we already have a deal to return to France? |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:13 - Feb 20 with 204 views | Benters |
| The split in the far-right vote on 06:56 - Feb 20 by noggin | British and allied troops entered Iraq illegally and were responsible for far more deaths than any of these asylum seekers will ever be. Is that ok then? |
Thanks to Tony Blair being convinced Sadam had weapons of mass destruction do you mean ? |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:14 - Feb 20 with 203 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:11 - Feb 20 by chicoazul | You mean, you disagree. That’s ok. I know this topic like the many many others you argue about makes you very upset. But I fail to see what’s cranky about our forces patrolling the channel considering that’s literally what already happens. In Afghan women aren’t even second class citizens; in Pakistan they barely are. Maybe that doesn’t make them some of the worst countries in the world but I don’t think so. And don’t you yourself say we already have a deal to return to France? |
We don't have a deal with France to intercept small boats and dump people back on their beaches which you well know. The rest I'm not even going to waste my time on. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:14 - Feb 20 with 197 views | Benters |
| The split in the far-right vote on 07:20 - Feb 20 by The_Flashing_Smile | Blimey, so even though my family tree has been traced by my uncle back to a general who came over with William the Conqueror, I can't call myself British because I'm not Christian?! |
You are a rarity then as most people doing their family tree can only go back to the Eighteenth Century. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:16 - Feb 20 with 194 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:14 - Feb 20 by Benters | You are a rarity then as most people doing their family tree can only go back to the Eighteenth Century. |
If you can only trace your family tree back to the 18th century then you can't really claim to be an indigenous little Englander. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:17 - Feb 20 with 193 views | StokieBlue |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:14 - Feb 20 by Benters | You are a rarity then as most people doing their family tree can only go back to the Eighteenth Century. |
In which case it seems strange to push the "indigenous population" angle if you're now saying people can't trace their linage back past the 18th century. SB |  | |  |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:19 - Feb 20 with 183 views | chicoazul |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:14 - Feb 20 by Herbivore | We don't have a deal with France to intercept small boats and dump people back on their beaches which you well know. The rest I'm not even going to waste my time on. |
Cos you know I’m right babes, you’ll waste plenty of your time arguing with other people tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. We’ll get you favourably quoting Roger Scruton by the end of the year don’t worry. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:25 - Feb 20 with 150 views | Herbivore |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:19 - Feb 20 by chicoazul | Cos you know I’m right babes, you’ll waste plenty of your time arguing with other people tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. We’ll get you favourably quoting Roger Scruton by the end of the year don’t worry. |
You've never been right on anything, Chickers. It's why you're widely ridiculed. I've responded to your other points already and you have been selective in responding to my own points because it's evident that anything you can't cut and paste a response to from the Mail Online is beyond you. Have a good day, mate, and maybe spend some of it reflecting on who it benefits for you to have such antipathy towards asylum seekers that you'd spout the kind of nonsense you've spouted on this thread. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:25 - Feb 20 with 148 views | Benters |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:16 - Feb 20 by Herbivore | If you can only trace your family tree back to the 18th century then you can't really claim to be an indigenous little Englander. |
Fair enough I will throw my passport into my waterbutt. |  |
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| The split in the far-right vote on 08:28 - Feb 20 with 141 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The split in the far-right vote on 08:14 - Feb 20 by Benters | You are a rarity then as most people doing their family tree can only go back to the Eighteenth Century. |
I wouldn't have thought that's rare but I'm not an expert on genealogy. It was my uncle's hobby until he realised he was spending £1000s on it and it was getting too expensive! |  |
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