| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:24 - Feb 19 with 1137 views | lowhouseblue |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 10:11 - Feb 19 by BiGDonnie |
Better late than never I suppose. |
to be fair to the police, they were clearly waiting until they could arrest him on his birthday. it's those little touches that make the job fun. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:28 - Feb 19 with 1129 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:00 - Feb 19 by redrickstuhaart |
Is there any evidence at all to suggest involvement with under age people? If not, its probably not ideal to keep muddying the waters with it. |
Legally no, of course that became more difficult when he opted not to have his day in court to clear his name, in favour of paying Giuffre millions of dollars. Each to their own. |  | | |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:33 - Feb 19 with 1087 views | Wicksy |
Arrested on his birthday - nice touch |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:38 - Feb 19 with 1056 views | Radlett_blue |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:28 - Feb 19 by _CliveBaker_ |
Legally no, of course that became more difficult when he opted not to have his day in court to clear his name, in favour of paying Giuffre millions of dollars. Each to their own. |
Giuffre was above the UK age of consent so Andrew had not committed an offence in the UK. He was never going to go to a US court. |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:38 - Feb 19 with 1049 views | GeoffSentence |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:07 - Feb 19 by Benters |
Good I’ve never liked him. |
There's a lesson here. Don't get on Benters bad side. |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:40 - Feb 19 with 1046 views | GeoffSentence |
In a world where the rich and powerful seem imprevious to justice it is nice to see a bit of accountability for a change. | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:45 - Feb 19 with 1013 views | baxterbasics |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:38 - Feb 19 by Radlett_blue |
Giuffre was above the UK age of consent so Andrew had not committed an offence in the UK. He was never going to go to a US court. |
Indeed. On the assumption any alleged contact was non-consensual then you still have r-pe or sexual assault as a potential charge. Under UK law age would not have been a factor.
Though it's a brave hill to die on for anyone trying to defend Andrew as not being into "kids" - similar to anyone trying to argue "it's not paedophilia if the victim was an adolescent" - just on a hiding to nothing there. |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:45 - Feb 19 with 1015 views | grow_our_own |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:40 - Feb 19 by GeoffSentence |
In a world where the rich and powerful seem imprevious to justice it is nice to see a bit of accountability for a change. |
Only a bit. Charles will still have immunity from prosecution (or even criticism in parliament) and can veto laws he deems "affect" him (King's Consent). Common law still won't apply to the monarchy. They'll remain exempt from all tax and Freedom of Information. This is a sop. Equality under the law still doesn't apply to the monarchy. |  | | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:50 - Feb 19 with 982 views | Keno |
Let’s hope he doesn’t drop his soap in the shower!! |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:53 - Feb 19 with 956 views | leitrimblue |
Come on, does anybody really believe Randy Andy gonna do serious time for this? |  | | |
| Many more to follow hopefully. (n/t) on 12:01 - Feb 19 with 906 views | WeWereZombies |
| Many more to follow hopefully. (n/t) on 10:15 - Feb 19 by Bloots |
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[Checks to see which of the regulars has not been on the forum this morning...] |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:06 - Feb 19 with 889 views | RegencyBlue |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:53 - Feb 19 by leitrimblue |
Come on, does anybody really believe Randy Andy gonna do serious time for this? |
Misconduct in public office is a difficult charge to make stick apparently so possibly not. Having said that I can’t see the police going down this route if there wasn’t at least the possibility of a case to answer.
I’ve got no time for Andrew, and he deserves everything coming to him, but given the circumstances I don’t see how Mandelson gets away without having his collar felt at some point either. |  | | |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:06 - Feb 19 with 879 views | Guthrum |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:45 - Feb 19 by grow_our_own |
Only a bit. Charles will still have immunity from prosecution (or even criticism in parliament) and can veto laws he deems "affect" him (King's Consent). Common law still won't apply to the monarchy. They'll remain exempt from all tax and Freedom of Information. This is a sop. Equality under the law still doesn't apply to the monarchy. |
While technically exempt from tax, I assume he's continued his mother's arrangement of voluntarily paying it on private income (as opposed to the Sovereign Support Grant).
Witholding Royal Consent for legislation passed by Parliament would trigger a huge constitutional crisis. That is, however, separate from his ability to influence and even insert opt-outs to certain laws. Which has happened. |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:11 - Feb 19 with 856 views | WeWereZombies |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:06 - Feb 19 by RegencyBlue |
Misconduct in public office is a difficult charge to make stick apparently so possibly not. Having said that I can’t see the police going down this route if there wasn’t at least the possibility of a case to answer.
I’ve got no time for Andrew, and he deserves everything coming to him, but given the circumstances I don’t see how Mandelson gets away without having his collar felt at some point either. |
I think as well as the punishment for past offences from a retribution angle there is also a deterrence aspect to the M/Andy case, the State needs to make clear that sharing secrets with foreign powers or criminal organisations cannot be tolerated. It isn't a victimless crime, it weakens every citizen of the United Kingdom. | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:12 - Feb 19 with 854 views | Guthrum |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:38 - Feb 19 by Radlett_blue |
Giuffre was above the UK age of consent so Andrew had not committed an offence in the UK. He was never going to go to a US court. |
There is the matter of trafficking, but they would have to prove that was the case and Andrew knew - not easy without hard documentary evidence. | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:17 - Feb 19 with 823 views | giant_stow |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:53 - Feb 19 by leitrimblue |
Come on, does anybody really believe Randy Andy gonna do serious time for this? |
more likely to have a mysterious death, id have thought |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:18 - Feb 19 with 815 views | Keno |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:17 - Feb 19 by giant_stow |
more likely to have a mysterious death, id have thought |
Charles is planning a once in a lifetime guided tour of Parisian Road Tunnels for him | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:19 - Feb 19 with 804 views | Radlett_blue |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:06 - Feb 19 by RegencyBlue |
Misconduct in public office is a difficult charge to make stick apparently so possibly not. Having said that I can’t see the police going down this route if there wasn’t at least the possibility of a case to answer.
I’ve got no time for Andrew, and he deserves everything coming to him, but given the circumstances I don’t see how Mandelson gets away without having his collar felt at some point either. |
This is largely populism. Andrew is and has always been a self-entitled tw@t so bringing him to book makes the establishment look good. | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:20 - Feb 19 with 803 views | Zx1988 |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:06 - Feb 19 by RegencyBlue |
Misconduct in public office is a difficult charge to make stick apparently so possibly not. Having said that I can’t see the police going down this route if there wasn’t at least the possibility of a case to answer.
I’ve got no time for Andrew, and he deserves everything coming to him, but given the circumstances I don’t see how Mandelson gets away without having his collar felt at some point either. |
What are the sentencing guidelines on this? I can see that the maximum is life imprisonment, but what's the lower end?
Are all MiPO punishments custodial, or is there a chance of a fine? | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:22 - Feb 19 with 790 views | leitrimblue |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:17 - Feb 19 by giant_stow |
more likely to have a mysterious death, id have thought |
Yer, that or gets off on some small legal technicality | | | |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:27 - Feb 19 with 760 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:45 - Feb 19 by grow_our_own |
Only a bit. Charles will still have immunity from prosecution (or even criticism in parliament) and can veto laws he deems "affect" him (King's Consent). Common law still won't apply to the monarchy. They'll remain exempt from all tax and Freedom of Information. This is a sop. Equality under the law still doesn't apply to the monarchy. |
Not really accurate.
He cannot veto laws. This all dealt with via constitutional convention. | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:43 - Feb 19 with 704 views | bluelagos |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 11:53 - Feb 19 by leitrimblue |
Come on, does anybody really believe Randy Andy gonna do serious time for this? |
Nope. But the public shaming of a successful prosecution would really hurt him.
Can't see him getting done for the rape of VG though. |  |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:44 - Feb 19 with 694 views | Zx1988 |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:43 - Feb 19 by bluelagos |
Nope. But the public shaming of a successful prosecution would really hurt him.
Can't see him getting done for the rape of VG though. |
I can see it now.
Found guilty, meets the threshold for custody, but is given a suspended sentence by virtue of 'previous good character and public service'. | |
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| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:45 - Feb 19 with 686 views | Radlett_blue |
| Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor arrested on 12:43 - Feb 19 by bluelagos |
Nope. But the public shaming of a successful prosecution would really hurt him.
Can't see him getting done for the rape of VG though. |
Probably because there is no evidence that he did the latter? | |
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