| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman 10:06 - Feb 21 with 1948 views | Broadbent23 |
Starting with his loan at Hull, then his brilliant season with us, he is now rumoured to be surplus at Chelsea. He genuinely has talent but top teams in the Premiership spit out players each season. With the right squad Liam Delap is a 20+ scorer. His father has seven clubs. These days a lot of players change clubs regularly over a career.
The question is should we bid for him or is there a buy back clause. |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:13 - Feb 21 with 1791 views | StokieBlue |
If we are promoted and if he was available and wanted to come then it would be silly not to try and get him.
He might not be ready for Chelsea yet but looking at our attack this year surely most people can now appreciate he's plenty good enough for us.
He would likely be too expensive now I would imagine and whether we would want to go the loan route for a key position is debatable.
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:17 - Feb 21 with 1757 views | jas0999 |
Still think Delap would have benefitted from another season with us, albeit in the championship. Of course the release clause and the fact it was Chelsea played a part and can fully understand why he left. But imagine if he was playing for us … he’d have been scoring goals and hopefully then back on the PL stronger. But, as I say can understand why he moved … Chelsea have a lot of players though … | | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:25 - Feb 21 with 1660 views | Guthrum |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:13 - Feb 21 by StokieBlue |
If we are promoted and if he was available and wanted to come then it would be silly not to try and get him.
He might not be ready for Chelsea yet but looking at our attack this year surely most people can now appreciate he's plenty good enough for us.
He would likely be too expensive now I would imagine and whether we would want to go the loan route for a key position is debatable.
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I would add a caveat - he would be good for us in the Prem, where we are more likely to be pushed back, with the centre-forward breaking on the counterattack or muscling beyond the last man.
Not so sure he would have shone as brightly for us this season in the Champ, working in tight spaces amid packed defences, or shooting from distance through crowds. Perhaps why he is less effective at Chelsea, a team dominating many of their opponents (quite apart from the injuries he's suffered).
Think this is where Hirst and Szmodics have also fallen down. They are not the right type of striker for our present circumstances. |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:31 - Feb 21 with 1618 views | gainsboroughblue |
Newcastle or even Everton was the better move for him.
Chelsea is a graveyard for footballers, especially younger and upcoming ones. |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:33 - Feb 21 with 1598 views | StokieBlue |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:25 - Feb 21 by Guthrum |
I would add a caveat - he would be good for us in the Prem, where we are more likely to be pushed back, with the centre-forward breaking on the counterattack or muscling beyond the last man.
Not so sure he would have shone as brightly for us this season in the Champ, working in tight spaces amid packed defences, or shooting from distance through crowds. Perhaps why he is less effective at Chelsea, a team dominating many of their opponents (quite apart from the injuries he's suffered).
Think this is where Hirst and Szmodics have also fallen down. They are not the right type of striker for our present circumstances. |
I disagree.
He would have been far better than any of our options this season and I think would probably be the top scorer in the league.
I don't think it's right that people say he can't link up play or work in tight spaces and to be honest the giant CB's in this division have bullied our forwards, we needed a bully as well.
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:43 - Feb 21 with 1525 views | Chris_ITFC |
No.
His time at Hull was a development loan.
His time with us saw him outgrow us (his ability, our relegation).
His time at Chelsea is largely a poor decision from him (an impatient, basket case club) and said lack of patience from the club (for success, for the profit model, for his discipline).
A journeyman implies a player who moves around clubs of a similar level for fairly vague reason.
I think the most interesting question is whether Chelsea (and therefore us) make any profit. [Post edited 21 Feb 10:45]
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:45 - Feb 21 with 1517 views | Guthrum |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:33 - Feb 21 by StokieBlue |
I disagree.
He would have been far better than any of our options this season and I think would probably be the top scorer in the league.
I don't think it's right that people say he can't link up play or work in tight spaces and to be honest the giant CB's in this division have bullied our forwards, we needed a bully as well.
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Agree about the toughness side of things - which is why Azon has been more effective than Hirst in a lot of ways. Yes, Delap probably would have done better than either of those two this season. However, I still don't think it would have played to his greatest strengths. IMO our top scorer would likely still have been Clarke/Philogene. | |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:47 - Feb 21 with 1488 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:33 - Feb 21 by StokieBlue |
I disagree.
He would have been far better than any of our options this season and I think would probably be the top scorer in the league.
I don't think it's right that people say he can't link up play or work in tight spaces and to be honest the giant CB's in this division have bullied our forwards, we needed a bully as well.
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Absolutely. He’s a class apart from this division and wouldn’t have been exactly what we needed. Will have a good career in the premier league. I think Chelsea was a club slightly higher up the chain for him at this time. Big physical players will peak later on. Quite frankly what he can do now at his age is frightening. I suspect he’ll reach top honours at some point. |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:49 - Feb 21 with 1479 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:31 - Feb 21 by gainsboroughblue |
Newcastle or even Everton was the better move for him.
Chelsea is a graveyard for footballers, especially younger and upcoming ones. |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:55 - Feb 21 with 1430 views | Churchman |
No, he’s work in progress for Chelsea.
At the moment he’s a bit part player; an alternative to what they have; a sub behind some seriously good players. The one thing that was obvious last season was that he needed to learn the game. To learn how to play as part of a team and given their manager I think he will do that at Chelsea. |  | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:59 - Feb 21 with 1399 views | Deano69 |
It was the right time for him, but moved to the wrong club. Somewhere like Everton or Newcastle would have be a far better club for him. |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 11:03 - Feb 21 with 1365 views | nrb1985 |
He will be fine at Chelsea.
Had a handful of good games to start the season including CWC. Then got a really bad hamstring injury and then the coach who bought him and had coached him at City was suddenly fired. And interspersed in there was also a suspension.
All in all a baptism of fire for a young man. Folly judging him at this stage of his CFC career.
One thing he needs to cut out is the niggly fouls and pantomime villain role he used to play for us on ocassion. You can get away with that here but, as he’s already found out, at Chelsea the ref/VAR will send you off. | | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 11:10 - Feb 21 with 1325 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 10:43 - Feb 21 by Chris_ITFC |
No.
His time at Hull was a development loan.
His time with us saw him outgrow us (his ability, our relegation).
His time at Chelsea is largely a poor decision from him (an impatient, basket case club) and said lack of patience from the club (for success, for the profit model, for his discipline).
A journeyman implies a player who moves around clubs of a similar level for fairly vague reason.
I think the most interesting question is whether Chelsea (and therefore us) make any profit. [Post edited 21 Feb 10:45]
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I'm not sure we get any sell on do we? I hope we do. Maybe it was written into the release clause. |  | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 11:16 - Feb 21 with 1292 views | TractorJack |
Wouldn't read anything in to what happens at Chelsea. They will make a profit on him, that's all they care about. I'm sure if we go up we'll enquire but will probably end up at a Newcastle or Everton and do really well. |  | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 11:23 - Feb 21 with 1232 views | Nutkins_Return |
No. Absolutely zero basis. He's a young player who is making progressive moves upward to date. Not a single journeyman like move in his career to date. Odd comment | |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 12:01 - Feb 21 with 1075 views | bsw72 |
I don’t think you can apply the term journeyman to a 23 year old with only 3 full seasons of first team football under his belt. |  | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 12:18 - Feb 21 with 934 views | RetroBlue |
I think hes amn aggressive Championship level player. Ive not seen anything from him at PL level for Chelsea and wont be at all surprised if/ when they off load him. |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 12:51 - Feb 21 with 745 views | PacittiJohn |
Although he’s still young, he doesn’t play for the team. Admittedly, he may mature. | | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 14:28 - Feb 21 with 441 views | Illinoisblue |
His main talent is being strong as an ox and being able to rampage through defences. There’s a place for that but he’ll likely end up being in a Darwin Nunez role; someone chucked on to cause chaos and disruption . |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 14:37 - Feb 21 with 399 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Sometimes you logon TWTD and then think, what’s the point! |  |
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| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 14:41 - Feb 21 with 360 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 14:28 - Feb 21 by Illinoisblue |
His main talent is being strong as an ox and being able to rampage through defences. There’s a place for that but he’ll likely end up being in a Darwin Nunez role; someone chucked on to cause chaos and disruption . |
I think that would be his likely evolution. | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 14:53 - Feb 21 with 287 views | StNeotsBlue |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 12:50 - Feb 21 by urbanpenguin |
I guess I am on the fence, but should we get promotion I would not imagine a bid is off the table. I would expect McKenna has continued dialogue with Delap and kept in touch, he enjoyed it here, and with the sell-on clause it may reduce the fee a bit to make it viable. Less risky than signing a complete unknown who needs more time to bed in, and would be a narrative that many media people love to chat about. |
Would be fantastic but there is next to no chance that a realistic scenario.
Also, genuinely interested why are you on the fence? Delap is a country mile above anyone we've got or been linked with since he left. |  | | |
| Is Liam Delap becoming a journeyman on 14:55 - Feb 21 with 278 views | BlueDouglas |
If Chelsea decide to move him on they'll surely consider shipping him off to Strasbourg for a season or two and see if his value goes up |  |
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