| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go 09:36 - Mar 8 with 1586 views | Dubtractor |
Assuming we continue that form, which seems a reasonable assumption, we get to 87 points.
Will that be enough for top 2, or do we need to get a little more to get over the line?
The last 2 seasons have required a higher points total, but Coventry aside no one looks likely to get much over the 90 points mark this season. |  |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 09:40 - Mar 8 with 1542 views | cbower |
Unfortunately Dubbers, I fear 87 will be 2 or 3 short. We'll need 90 imo. |  |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 09:40 - Mar 8 with 1532 views | ITFCSG |
We HAVE to beat Millwall and Boro at home, so everything is still in our hands - and of course no more stupid cock-ups along the way |  | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 09:48 - Mar 8 with 1475 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
87 +/-1 has looked like the required target for a while. It will be squeaky bum time though. | | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 09:53 - Mar 8 with 1446 views | Dubtractor |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 09:40 - Mar 8 by ITFCSG |
We HAVE to beat Millwall and Boro at home, so everything is still in our hands - and of course no more stupid cock-ups along the way |
Those 2 games are huge, no doubt about it.
We had similarly huge games in the run in for 22/23 and 23/24, and got the results that mattered, so hopefully we can deliver again. | |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:07 - Mar 8 with 1383 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 09:40 - Mar 8 by cbower |
Unfortunately Dubbers, I fear 87 will be 2 or 3 short. We'll need 90 imo. |
Not sure about 90 points. Traditionally yes, but boro could only afford to lose 2 and Millwall only 1 from there last 11/10 games. That's a big ask.
86/87 seems more likely, 7 wins from final 10/11 games.
Draws won't really help anyone.
Who knows though?!? |  | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:20 - Mar 8 with 1325 views | waveneyblue |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 09:40 - Mar 8 by ITFCSG |
We HAVE to beat Millwall and Boro at home, so everything is still in our hands - and of course no more stupid cock-ups along the way |
Was yesterday a "Stupid cock up"...
Im struggling with the parameters and the whole new normal when it comes to supporting the club.
Be grateful of clarification |  | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:38 - Mar 8 with 1250 views | mellowblue |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:20 - Mar 8 by waveneyblue |
Was yesterday a "Stupid cock up"...
Im struggling with the parameters and the whole new normal when it comes to supporting the club.
Be grateful of clarification |
Disappointing rather than a cockup really. But given our patchy away contributions this season, we need to maximize our home points haul. And that we did not know. High bar this time of the season. | | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:43 - Mar 8 with 1210 views | darkhorse28 |
That’s a very well curated set of statistics. What if we continue our form over the full season, or last two seasons.
We have improved from the first half of the season for sure, couple good January signings too - bu our striker has 6 goals contributions and it’s March, we can’t attack or defending set pieces any better, we don’t do ‘tackles’ as another well curated stat to back an agenda, we’re one of the worst sides in the league for tackles, and also for retaining possession we’re mid table.
Those stats aren’t improving either.
We have the quality. We can win against anyone in moments. For sure. But I see Millwall and Boro running through walls for success. I see us playing below our levels. And incapable of stinging 90 minutes together very often.
But the thing that frightens me most. KM’s fragile ego.
‘We can’t dominate like we did in 23/24’
Well we spent £220 million, so we should’ve able to .., but when did we dominate in 23/24?? I watched 90% of games, I can’t remember many we dominated - we won often tbh rough sheer will and desire, and often late late drama .., dominant would be the last word I’d use. We got dominated by Leeds, otherwise we went toe to toe with every side and ground most into submission with a sheer belief and wanting it more.
What is KM talking about?
It’s like he can’t replicate that, knows that literally why he’s paid so much, so wants to pretend it didn’t happen.., that’s not good, hard to learn and grow and develop from they mindset.
He’s very frustrated with himself.
Step one. Accept what was. And what is. He wasn’t the reason that group had complete conviction…, he was a smaller cog than he’d like - but he was still essential .., he seems to struggle with that.
I think he convinced himself, when he convinced the ownership that summer, that he’s world class and the real deal.
He needed agency, accountability, guidance, he got none of that from Ashton. | | | |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:47 - Mar 8 with 1227 views | jasondozzell |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:43 - Mar 8 by darkhorse28 |
That’s a very well curated set of statistics. What if we continue our form over the full season, or last two seasons.
We have improved from the first half of the season for sure, couple good January signings too - bu our striker has 6 goals contributions and it’s March, we can’t attack or defending set pieces any better, we don’t do ‘tackles’ as another well curated stat to back an agenda, we’re one of the worst sides in the league for tackles, and also for retaining possession we’re mid table.
Those stats aren’t improving either.
We have the quality. We can win against anyone in moments. For sure. But I see Millwall and Boro running through walls for success. I see us playing below our levels. And incapable of stinging 90 minutes together very often.
But the thing that frightens me most. KM’s fragile ego.
‘We can’t dominate like we did in 23/24’
Well we spent £220 million, so we should’ve able to .., but when did we dominate in 23/24?? I watched 90% of games, I can’t remember many we dominated - we won often tbh rough sheer will and desire, and often late late drama .., dominant would be the last word I’d use. We got dominated by Leeds, otherwise we went toe to toe with every side and ground most into submission with a sheer belief and wanting it more.
What is KM talking about?
It’s like he can’t replicate that, knows that literally why he’s paid so much, so wants to pretend it didn’t happen.., that’s not good, hard to learn and grow and develop from they mindset.
He’s very frustrated with himself.
Step one. Accept what was. And what is. He wasn’t the reason that group had complete conviction…, he was a smaller cog than he’d like - but he was still essential .., he seems to struggle with that.
I think he convinced himself, when he convinced the ownership that summer, that he’s world class and the real deal.
He needed agency, accountability, guidance, he got none of that from Ashton. |
Sorry but that's total drivel.
Football is not a computer game.
Second half reaction yesterday was excellent. With most refs we'd have had the penalty to win the game.
That reaction and the team coming together and improving all season is down to KM. |  | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 11:06 - Mar 8 with 1157 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:43 - Mar 8 by darkhorse28 |
That’s a very well curated set of statistics. What if we continue our form over the full season, or last two seasons.
We have improved from the first half of the season for sure, couple good January signings too - bu our striker has 6 goals contributions and it’s March, we can’t attack or defending set pieces any better, we don’t do ‘tackles’ as another well curated stat to back an agenda, we’re one of the worst sides in the league for tackles, and also for retaining possession we’re mid table.
Those stats aren’t improving either.
We have the quality. We can win against anyone in moments. For sure. But I see Millwall and Boro running through walls for success. I see us playing below our levels. And incapable of stinging 90 minutes together very often.
But the thing that frightens me most. KM’s fragile ego.
‘We can’t dominate like we did in 23/24’
Well we spent £220 million, so we should’ve able to .., but when did we dominate in 23/24?? I watched 90% of games, I can’t remember many we dominated - we won often tbh rough sheer will and desire, and often late late drama .., dominant would be the last word I’d use. We got dominated by Leeds, otherwise we went toe to toe with every side and ground most into submission with a sheer belief and wanting it more.
What is KM talking about?
It’s like he can’t replicate that, knows that literally why he’s paid so much, so wants to pretend it didn’t happen.., that’s not good, hard to learn and grow and develop from they mindset.
He’s very frustrated with himself.
Step one. Accept what was. And what is. He wasn’t the reason that group had complete conviction…, he was a smaller cog than he’d like - but he was still essential .., he seems to struggle with that.
I think he convinced himself, when he convinced the ownership that summer, that he’s world class and the real deal.
He needed agency, accountability, guidance, he got none of that from Ashton. |
Most of the time there's some valid reasoning in your rants, although cloaked in doom mongering which is probably why some posters don't give you the time of day.
But this is genuinely utter tripe.
Why on earth would we look at our form from last season as a PL relegation battler as being relevant in a promotion chasing season in the league below?
Why do you think we don't tackle as much as other teams.... Errr because we generally have the ball already.... Look at average possession stats
How can you say we don't dominate teams then in the next breath say Leeds dominated us?
The McKenna stuff, I don't even know where to start. Maybe he does have an ego, I've never met the guy, but don't see how it's relevant other than a way to attack him |  | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 11:18 - Mar 8 with 1122 views | HotspursUnited |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:47 - Mar 8 by jasondozzell |
Sorry but that's total drivel.
Football is not a computer game.
Second half reaction yesterday was excellent. With most refs we'd have had the penalty to win the game.
That reaction and the team coming together and improving all season is down to KM. |
Bit rude there Jason mate | | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 11:20 - Mar 8 with 1114 views | hoppy |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:47 - Mar 8 by jasondozzell |
Sorry but that's total drivel.
Football is not a computer game.
Second half reaction yesterday was excellent. With most refs we'd have had the penalty to win the game.
That reaction and the team coming together and improving all season is down to KM. |
"Sorry but that's total drivel."
You only needed to read who the author of the post was to know that would be the case. |  |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 11:32 - Mar 8 with 1048 views | jasondozzell |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 11:20 - Mar 8 by hoppy |
"Sorry but that's total drivel."
You only needed to read who the author of the post was to know that would be the case. |
I didn't look - now I have no surprises! | | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 11:51 - Mar 8 with 978 views | GlasgowBlue |
The bad news is that Boro also have 23 points from their last 11 games and they are two points ahead of us.
edit. Millwall have 10 games left and 22 points in those 10 games so also have the potential to finish on 87 but with a poorer goal difference.
As we play both, something has to give [Post edited 8 Mar 11:53]
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 12:37 - Mar 8 with 835 views | Illinoisblue |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:43 - Mar 8 by darkhorse28 |
That’s a very well curated set of statistics. What if we continue our form over the full season, or last two seasons.
We have improved from the first half of the season for sure, couple good January signings too - bu our striker has 6 goals contributions and it’s March, we can’t attack or defending set pieces any better, we don’t do ‘tackles’ as another well curated stat to back an agenda, we’re one of the worst sides in the league for tackles, and also for retaining possession we’re mid table.
Those stats aren’t improving either.
We have the quality. We can win against anyone in moments. For sure. But I see Millwall and Boro running through walls for success. I see us playing below our levels. And incapable of stinging 90 minutes together very often.
But the thing that frightens me most. KM’s fragile ego.
‘We can’t dominate like we did in 23/24’
Well we spent £220 million, so we should’ve able to .., but when did we dominate in 23/24?? I watched 90% of games, I can’t remember many we dominated - we won often tbh rough sheer will and desire, and often late late drama .., dominant would be the last word I’d use. We got dominated by Leeds, otherwise we went toe to toe with every side and ground most into submission with a sheer belief and wanting it more.
What is KM talking about?
It’s like he can’t replicate that, knows that literally why he’s paid so much, so wants to pretend it didn’t happen.., that’s not good, hard to learn and grow and develop from they mindset.
He’s very frustrated with himself.
Step one. Accept what was. And what is. He wasn’t the reason that group had complete conviction…, he was a smaller cog than he’d like - but he was still essential .., he seems to struggle with that.
I think he convinced himself, when he convinced the ownership that summer, that he’s world class and the real deal.
He needed agency, accountability, guidance, he got none of that from Ashton. |
Here’s the cowardly Tractor Guy from Facebook. Still too scared to put his own name to his rants. What a coward. |  |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 12:48 - Mar 8 with 759 views | algy |
23 from 11 looks good. Can it be repeated? Interestingly 7 home 4 away in the last 11 played. The opposite in the next 11. | |
| Never forget that in April 2021, for ITFC, the Game Changed. |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 14:09 - Mar 8 with 561 views | waveneyblue |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 12:37 - Mar 8 by Illinoisblue |
Here’s the cowardly Tractor Guy from Facebook. Still too scared to put his own name to his rants. What a coward. |
If it is, he wont be able to delete replies to his drivel, like he does on there.
Whoever it is, its not normal behaviour, you need a deep rooted grudge to continuously post this stuff. | | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 15:29 - Mar 8 with 404 views | HighgateBlue |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 10:20 - Mar 8 by waveneyblue |
Was yesterday a "Stupid cock up"...
Im struggling with the parameters and the whole new normal when it comes to supporting the club.
Be grateful of clarification |
On paper, we have no more home games as easy as yesterday. We only have one more home game against a team currently in the bottom half. In relation to our top 2 chances, yesterday's result has to be seen in that context.
We threw the kitchen sink at it second half, and the lads tried their best. We came from behind to get something. Not all bad. But in terms of the bare result in the context of the remainder of the season, it was a blow.
Given that there are only 11 games left, only 4 of those are at home, and our away form is mid table, home games against teams outside of the playoffs really have to be won (Brum and QPR), whilst our other two home games are against Boro and Millwall. It goes without saying that a loss against Boro would be a hammer blow, and obviously Millwall are no mugs.
We've got to beat the lesser sides at home otherwise it's playoffs here we come. And getting promoted via the playoffs entails playing two games away from Portman Road and only one at Portman Road. Again, our form away from home has been really sub-par. |  | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 15:36 - Mar 8 with 365 views | HighgateBlue |
This is an optimistic way of looking at it. Let's hope we do get 23 points and that it is enough.
However, our remaining 11 games include only 4 at home, giving almost twice as much weight to our away form, which is mid table form, not even playoff form. And it gets worse. In our last 11 league games, 7 of them were at home and 4 away, giving almost twice as much weight to our home form.
Add to that that two out of our four future home games are against teams in the top 3, and it possibly becomes less justifiable to equate the next 11 games with the last 11 games.
I'd settle for 23 points, making a total of 87. I think it will /probably/ be good enough if one of our wins is against Boro. And none of this is by any means impossible. But I'm not sure that this occurring is truly supported by past form. | | | |
| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 15:42 - Mar 8 with 342 views | Blue_Heath |
Have you factored in away form v home form? Unless that changes we don't get to 87 points. | |
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| 23 points from last 11 played, 11 games to go on 15:49 - Mar 8 with 322 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It doesn’t really matter, we are almost passed tht stage as Boro has equally as good form. You have to beat Boro and Millwall and then better Boro over the rest of the games. As good as the response has been post Wrexham there’s been too many home games where we have only scored one goal and dropped points. Even though the home form is really decent, the drawers have mounted up at PR over the course of the season. |  |
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