| Mckenna said, and I quote 06:25 - Mar 11 with 2916 views | gtsb1966 |
"At the moment, despite two really, really strong second halves".....and that is the problem. For most of the season, especially away, we have had spells where we have not even been average at best for periods of games. Mckenna doesn't seem to be able to get any consistency in the side. We 100% messed up by not getting a decent striker. Also our coaches, are they good enough? We seem to do the same things over and over again to shoot ourselves in the foot. Are we overcoached? |  | | |  |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 06:30 - Mar 11 with 2346 views | Blue_Heath |
All of the above plus our recruitment team is appalling.
Outplayed by Stoke reserves who probably cost a tiny fraction of what we have spent.
I couldn't believe the persistence of dicking around at the back, you had pacey McAteer against Gibson play the ball down the line/over the top or why bother subbing him on. |  |
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 06:50 - Mar 11 with 2204 views | Benters |
What game was it where some coach said ‘Ipswich are the most over coached team in the league’? |  |
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:02 - Mar 11 with 2099 views | Blooos |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 06:30 - Mar 11 by Blue_Heath |
All of the above plus our recruitment team is appalling.
Outplayed by Stoke reserves who probably cost a tiny fraction of what we have spent.
I couldn't believe the persistence of dicking around at the back, you had pacey McAteer against Gibson play the ball down the line/over the top or why bother subbing him on. |
The recruitment team need to hold their head in shame for the past 12 months. No matter what happens this season the fact that we have no capable striker, Jack Taylor still starting games who couldn’t get a kick for us in L1.. | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:02 - Mar 11 with 2094 views | MattinLondon |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 06:50 - Mar 11 by Benters |
What game was it where some coach said ‘Ipswich are the most over coached team in the league’? |
It wasn’t a coach but a poster on the Wrexham forum. |  | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:14 - Mar 11 with 1998 views | DBaldy |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:02 - Mar 11 by Blooos |
The recruitment team need to hold their head in shame for the past 12 months. No matter what happens this season the fact that we have no capable striker, Jack Taylor still starting games who couldn’t get a kick for us in L1.. |
Taylor wasn't with us in League One.... | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:28 - Mar 11 with 1913 views | Benters |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:02 - Mar 11 by MattinLondon |
It wasn’t a coach but a poster on the Wrexham forum. |
Oh right thanks. | |
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:33 - Mar 11 with 1900 views | Blooos |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:14 - Mar 11 by DBaldy |
Taylor wasn't with us in League One.... |
Sorry in the championship 2 years ago* yet he’s starting majority of games £150m later.. [Post edited 11 Mar 7:33]
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:45 - Mar 11 with 1802 views | DJR |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:02 - Mar 11 by Blooos |
The recruitment team need to hold their head in shame for the past 12 months. No matter what happens this season the fact that we have no capable striker, Jack Taylor still starting games who couldn’t get a kick for us in L1.. |
I don't think our midfield is a patch on Morsy and Luongo who could each defend, tackle, pass and take the ball forward.
Matisuwa is the only one who comes close but he is not as constructive offensively as those two.
And it seems to me, particularly in away games, that this is a major reason why there are often large periods of games when we don't seem to turn up. And that these days some of our best forward balls come from O'Shea and KIpre. [Post edited 11 Mar 8:02]
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:18 - Mar 11 with 1629 views | StokieBlue |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:45 - Mar 11 by DJR |
I don't think our midfield is a patch on Morsy and Luongo who could each defend, tackle, pass and take the ball forward.
Matisuwa is the only one who comes close but he is not as constructive offensively as those two.
And it seems to me, particularly in away games, that this is a major reason why there are often large periods of games when we don't seem to turn up. And that these days some of our best forward balls come from O'Shea and KIpre. [Post edited 11 Mar 8:02]
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"Matisuwa is the only one who comes close but he is not as constructive offensively as those two."
I am not so sure about this. He recycles possession quickly and generally looks for a forward pass, I think he's also becoming more progressive with each match.
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:19 - Mar 11 with 1614 views | chantryblueboy |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:18 - Mar 11 by StokieBlue |
"Matisuwa is the only one who comes close but he is not as constructive offensively as those two."
I am not so sure about this. He recycles possession quickly and generally looks for a forward pass, I think he's also becoming more progressive with each match.
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:19 - Mar 11 with 1610 views | DJR |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:18 - Mar 11 by StokieBlue |
"Matisuwa is the only one who comes close but he is not as constructive offensively as those two."
I am not so sure about this. He recycles possession quickly and generally looks for a forward pass, I think he's also becoming more progressive with each match.
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But he gives the ball away far too much for my liking which is not great given the position he plays in. And he doesn't get forward in the same way as Morsy did. And Morsy rarely gave the ball away even in the Premier League.
The Sheffield United and Wrexham games spring to mind both games in which we were completely outplayed. I know because I was there, as Max Boyce used to say. [Post edited 11 Mar 8:30]
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:24 - Mar 11 with 1559 views | tcblue |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:33 - Mar 11 by Blooos |
Sorry in the championship 2 years ago* yet he’s starting majority of games £150m later.. [Post edited 11 Mar 7:33]
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He's not "starting majority of games" but maybe he was bought partially because it was felt he could be coached into a better player?
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:27 - Mar 11 with 1533 views | ericclacton |
WE DONT HAVE a GOOD NO 9, That IS WHAT IS WRONG THIS SEASON. HURST is a clumsy clown. |  | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:28 - Mar 11 with 1522 views | StokieBlue |
Thanks for the detailed analysis and response.
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:30 - Mar 11 with 1486 views | StokieBlue |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:19 - Mar 11 by DJR |
But he gives the ball away far too much for my liking which is not great given the position he plays in. And he doesn't get forward in the same way as Morsy did. And Morsy rarely gave the ball away even in the Premier League.
The Sheffield United and Wrexham games spring to mind both games in which we were completely outplayed. I know because I was there, as Max Boyce used to say. [Post edited 11 Mar 8:30]
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Morsy gave the ball away as well, just over time the memory of that tends to fade.
I think he is getting forward much more, the evidence from the last few matches where he has been taking on shots and passing around the edge of the opposition box.
Morsy and Massimo were great for us but this all feels a bit harsh on Azor. He's having to do a lot more work in that CM position as he's basically doing it on his own most matches.
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:36 - Mar 11 with 1436 views | DJR |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:30 - Mar 11 by StokieBlue |
Morsy gave the ball away as well, just over time the memory of that tends to fade.
I think he is getting forward much more, the evidence from the last few matches where he has been taking on shots and passing around the edge of the opposition box.
Morsy and Massimo were great for us but this all feels a bit harsh on Azor. He's having to do a lot more work in that CM position as he's basically doing it on his own most matches.
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I can't disagree with your last paragraph. | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:37 - Mar 11 with 1419 views | Leaky |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 07:02 - Mar 11 by Blooos |
The recruitment team need to hold their head in shame for the past 12 months. No matter what happens this season the fact that we have no capable striker, Jack Taylor still starting games who couldn’t get a kick for us in L1.. |
Does the same apply to Wes Burns |  | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:38 - Mar 11 with 1404 views | Wright1 |
We conceded two soft goals in the first half and couldn't control the game - remind me how the strikers are to blame for that? | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:42 - Mar 11 with 1374 views | ernie |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:19 - Mar 11 by DJR |
But he gives the ball away far too much for my liking which is not great given the position he plays in. And he doesn't get forward in the same way as Morsy did. And Morsy rarely gave the ball away even in the Premier League.
The Sheffield United and Wrexham games spring to mind both games in which we were completely outplayed. I know because I was there, as Max Boyce used to say. [Post edited 11 Mar 8:30]
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Morsy gave the ball away a lot in the premier league. | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:45 - Mar 11 with 1335 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:38 - Mar 11 by Wright1 |
We conceded two soft goals in the first half and couldn't control the game - remind me how the strikers are to blame for that? |
Azon had a simple task of passing the ball inside rather than trying to hold the ball then falling over like hed just been shot for the 30th time in the first half. |  |
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:46 - Mar 11 with 1330 views | chantryblueboy |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:28 - Mar 11 by StokieBlue |
Thanks for the detailed analysis and response.
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Morsy - 65th percentile for chances created the last time we were in the division
Luongo - 49th percentile for chances created the last time we were in the division
Matusiwa - 35th percentile for chances created this season
All stats are per 90
So wrong may have been a bit brief but was correct | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:55 - Mar 11 with 1237 views | farkenhell |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:38 - Mar 11 by Wright1 |
We conceded two soft goals in the first half and couldn't control the game - remind me how the strikers are to blame for that? |
Not to mention the fact that we scored 3 goals away from home. Of all the things that we could point to last night, the strikers are well down the list. Ditto the accusation of overcoaching.
We didn't win because of a dreadful 1st half, piss-poor defending after we took the lead and, yet again, a woefully incompetent refereeing decision at the end. | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:57 - Mar 11 with 1220 views | StokieBlue |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:46 - Mar 11 by chantryblueboy |
Morsy - 65th percentile for chances created the last time we were in the division
Luongo - 49th percentile for chances created the last time we were in the division
Matusiwa - 35th percentile for chances created this season
All stats are per 90
So wrong may have been a bit brief but was correct |
Thanks for the stats.
I think you need to include context though, I've stated many times that the two times in the division aren't directly comparable because of the totally different ways teams have played against those two sides.
You'd need to make major adjustments to normalise those two datasets for direct comparison. Given this it's pretty meaningless, Azor might have been much more progressive in a team given far more space to play in like that team had.
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| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:59 - Mar 11 with 1204 views | farkenhell |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 08:45 - Mar 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Azon had a simple task of passing the ball inside rather than trying to hold the ball then falling over like hed just been shot for the 30th time in the first half. |
He was fouled. He might have gone down like a dying swan, but he was still fouled. I have no idea how the referee thought that wasn't a foul, yet Kipre's slight hand on the shoulder was deemed to be worthy of a penalty. | | | |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 09:01 - Mar 11 with 1166 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Mckenna said, and I quote on 06:50 - Mar 11 by Benters |
What game was it where some coach said ‘Ipswich are the most over coached team in the league’? |
I am still not sure what over coached means. |  |
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