| Most accurate passers in the Championship 11:13 - Mar 17 with 2434 views | baxterbasics |
Matt Grimes (Coventry City) — 2,291
Dara O'Shea (Ipswich Town) — 2,160
Cameron Burgess (Swansea City) — 2,140
Hayden Hackney (Middlesbrough) — 2,103
Christoph Klarer (Birmingham City) — 2,040
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 11:25 - Mar 17 with 2208 views | dirtyboy |
defenders should be excluded. |  | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 11:30 - Mar 17 with 2169 views | Guthrum |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 11:25 - Mar 17 by dirtyboy |
defenders should be excluded. |
Not sure that would be fair, given the modern trends for attacks to be lauched from very deep and for CBs to push well forward.
I take the point that passing around at the back at their leisure should not count, but then (as we have seen this season) accuracy is still very important if the opposition press high. |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 11:37 - Mar 17 with 2112 views | HighgateBlue |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 11:25 - Mar 17 by dirtyboy |
defenders should be excluded. |
I think you can just put a mental asterisk against them. You can still compare between defenders, especially with some knowledge as to how different teams play.
But excluding defenders, it shows that Hackney's qualities are there in the stats as well as on the eye and in the reputation. And Grimes is an interesting one, as he doesn't get as much love as some other players at Coventry. They've not exactly missed Sheaf. |  | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:08 - Mar 17 with 2005 views | Meadowlark |
That's because 99.99% of his passes are 10 yards sideways to Kipre.
I wonder if there's an analysis of his forward passes?
He's a great defender, but his distribution is not the best, despite these numbers. |  | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:22 - Mar 17 with 1934 views | BseaBlue |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:08 - Mar 17 by Meadowlark |
That's because 99.99% of his passes are 10 yards sideways to Kipre.
I wonder if there's an analysis of his forward passes?
He's a great defender, but his distribution is not the best, despite these numbers. |
A lot of Coventry fans make the same comments about Grimes passing sideways and backwards as well. |  | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:23 - Mar 17 with 1929 views | Garv |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:08 - Mar 17 by Meadowlark |
That's because 99.99% of his passes are 10 yards sideways to Kipre.
I wonder if there's an analysis of his forward passes?
He's a great defender, but his distribution is not the best, despite these numbers. |
Can't disagree with this more.
The guy is basically expected to be our main playmaker because of how sides play against us, he has to take risks and offer a range of passing, long and short. Naturally sometimes the risk won't pay off.
Both he and Kipre have been very good at this all season. |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:28 - Mar 17 with 1907 views | Kievthegreat |
Look at passes in the final 3rd:
1st - Hackney - 848
2nd - Aiden Morris (Boro) - 602
3rd - Matt Grimes (Cov) - 577
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17th - Matusiwa - 346
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23rd - Leif - 319
https://theanalyst.com/competi
Also worth noting that there are 2 more Boro players and another Cov between 4th and 16th. [Post edited 17 Mar 12:30]
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:30 - Mar 17 with 1874 views | baxterbasics |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:23 - Mar 17 by Garv |
Can't disagree with this more.
The guy is basically expected to be our main playmaker because of how sides play against us, he has to take risks and offer a range of passing, long and short. Naturally sometimes the risk won't pay off.
Both he and Kipre have been very good at this all season. |
and when the rare mistake happens that leads to a goal conceded:
"O'Shea is sh1T!!!"
"Why are we p1ssing around with it at the back"
"just get rid of it, morons!"
From the dimmer sections of the 'fans'. | |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:46 - Mar 17 with 1772 views | bsw72 |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:28 - Mar 17 by Kievthegreat |
Look at passes in the final 3rd:
1st - Hackney - 848
2nd - Aiden Morris (Boro) - 602
3rd - Matt Grimes (Cov) - 577
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17th - Matusiwa - 346
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23rd - Leif - 319
https://theanalyst.com/competi
Also worth noting that there are 2 more Boro players and another Cov between 4th and 16th. [Post edited 17 Mar 12:30]
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In fact Boro have attempted 6,196 passes in the final third, completing 4,651 at 75%, compared to us at 4,643 attempted, completing 3,203 at 69%- so effectively 25% less passes and possession in the final third . . . yet we have scored 7 more goals in 1 less game as of right now.
Suggests to me that for whatever reason we build more from the back through the midfield and when we get the chance in that final third, we are acting on it quicker and better than Boro. |  | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:03 - Mar 17 with 1669 views | Vic |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:46 - Mar 17 by bsw72 |
In fact Boro have attempted 6,196 passes in the final third, completing 4,651 at 75%, compared to us at 4,643 attempted, completing 3,203 at 69%- so effectively 25% less passes and possession in the final third . . . yet we have scored 7 more goals in 1 less game as of right now.
Suggests to me that for whatever reason we build more from the back through the midfield and when we get the chance in that final third, we are acting on it quicker and better than Boro. |
Can you imagine the outcry on here if we had that many passes in the final third without the goals to follow! The team get moaned at now for messing about and trying to create the perfect goal!
Have you got the same stats for passes in the first and middle third? |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:06 - Mar 17 with 1653 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:22 - Mar 17 by BseaBlue |
A lot of Coventry fans make the same comments about Grimes passing sideways and backwards as well. |
That’s because they’re half wits. Some of the Swansea fans were the same. Whereas in reality he’s consistently near the top for progressive forward passes. He just makes so many passes that inevitably you also see a lot that are sideways and backwards. That’s what players tidying up keeping teams ticking over do.
I’m not surprised to see O’Shea up near the top. He loves a cheeky diagonal. |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:12 - Mar 17 with 1613 views | bsw72 |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:03 - Mar 17 by Vic |
Can you imagine the outcry on here if we had that many passes in the final third without the goals to follow! The team get moaned at now for messing about and trying to create the perfect goal!
Have you got the same stats for passes in the first and middle third? |
Not split out but total passes including final 3rd already highlighted are:
Team, Matches Played, Passes Attempted, Successful, %age):
Middlesbrough 38 19480 16498 84.7%
Ipswich 37 16452 13467 81.9% | | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:30 - Mar 17 with 1534 views | LeoMuff |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:46 - Mar 17 by bsw72 |
In fact Boro have attempted 6,196 passes in the final third, completing 4,651 at 75%, compared to us at 4,643 attempted, completing 3,203 at 69%- so effectively 25% less passes and possession in the final third . . . yet we have scored 7 more goals in 1 less game as of right now.
Suggests to me that for whatever reason we build more from the back through the midfield and when we get the chance in that final third, we are acting on it quicker and better than Boro. |
This is what I feel watching this season, nowhere near enough play goes through the middle and final third centrally. We almost always look wide, though it feels like we have tried to change this on the last couple of months. |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:35 - Mar 17 with 1511 views | bsw72 |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:30 - Mar 17 by LeoMuff |
This is what I feel watching this season, nowhere near enough play goes through the middle and final third centrally. We almost always look wide, though it feels like we have tried to change this on the last couple of months. |
Agree - but I think it's not by choice, that is a direct result of teams defending deeper with at least two lines of defence/midfield. This then requires as to move the ball across the pitch until we open a gap or break a line to try and exploit.
It's weird as I really enjoy watching us move the ball across to pull opposition out of position to then exploit and create a chance. It's very tactical and almost chesslike - although I am also conscious that it affects the emotion and excitement in the crowd.
Modern football eh? [Post edited 17 Mar 13:39]
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:35 - Mar 17 with 1505 views | ghostofescobar |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:23 - Mar 17 by Garv |
Can't disagree with this more.
The guy is basically expected to be our main playmaker because of how sides play against us, he has to take risks and offer a range of passing, long and short. Naturally sometimes the risk won't pay off.
Both he and Kipre have been very good at this all season. |
The only slight disagreement I would have with your comment is that both Cedric and DoS have got much better at their distribution through the season. It wasn't great early on, but both can play some lovely forward stuff these days. It's never going to come off 100% of the time, but they've improved. KM's coaching again, I guess. |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:38 - Mar 17 with 1482 views | bsw72 |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:35 - Mar 17 by ghostofescobar |
The only slight disagreement I would have with your comment is that both Cedric and DoS have got much better at their distribution through the season. It wasn't great early on, but both can play some lovely forward stuff these days. It's never going to come off 100% of the time, but they've improved. KM's coaching again, I guess. |
I would say most improved ball player is Walton - it's night and day vs the start of the season . . . | | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 13:58 - Mar 17 with 1350 views | Stenvict |
It's written in O'Shea's contract that every move has to start with him. |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 15:29 - Mar 17 with 1212 views | Meadowlark |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:30 - Mar 17 by baxterbasics |
and when the rare mistake happens that leads to a goal conceded:
"O'Shea is sh1T!!!"
"Why are we p1ssing around with it at the back"
"just get rid of it, morons!"
From the dimmer sections of the 'fans'. |
Where is this "dimmer" section seated?
Anywhere near the "think for yourself" or "maverick" section.
Can they be heard from the "supercilious, condescending or pompous" sections? | | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 15:51 - Mar 17 with 1174 views | waveneyblue |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:23 - Mar 17 by Garv |
Can't disagree with this more.
The guy is basically expected to be our main playmaker because of how sides play against us, he has to take risks and offer a range of passing, long and short. Naturally sometimes the risk won't pay off.
Both he and Kipre have been very good at this all season. |
Likewise.
Some of the balls from O'Shea and Kipre have been quite incredible, I think back and shudder at the thought of some of our erm less cultured centre backs attempting such passes
Both better at pinging towards the left wing than right (in my opinion) |  | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 15:53 - Mar 17 with 1166 views | LeoMuff |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 15:51 - Mar 17 by waveneyblue |
Likewise.
Some of the balls from O'Shea and Kipre have been quite incredible, I think back and shudder at the thought of some of our erm less cultured centre backs attempting such passes
Both better at pinging towards the left wing than right (in my opinion) |
Lovely defence splitting pass from Kipre v Stoke | |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 19:48 - Mar 17 with 948 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:28 - Mar 17 by Kievthegreat |
Look at passes in the final 3rd:
1st - Hackney - 848
2nd - Aiden Morris (Boro) - 602
3rd - Matt Grimes (Cov) - 577
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17th - Matusiwa - 346
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23rd - Leif - 319
https://theanalyst.com/competi
Also worth noting that there are 2 more Boro players and another Cov between 4th and 16th. [Post edited 17 Mar 12:30]
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That's a " striking " statistic, for Matusiwa who essentially is our deepest lying midfielder and is there far more to break up opposition attacks than make passes in the final 3rd. So not only is near the top for breaking up play, he's doing pretty well on the final 3rd metric too. Shows just how very important he is to the team. | | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 06:51 - Mar 18 with 748 views | RetroBlue |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 12:22 - Mar 17 by BseaBlue |
A lot of Coventry fans make the same comments about Grimes passing sideways and backwards as well. |
I remember not that long ago, some on here were wetting themselves about Woolfenden's passing stats and how wonderful they were, ignoring the fact that almost all of these passess were less than 1 meter and usually to his right or backwards. |  |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 08:13 - Mar 18 with 581 views | Cotty |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 11:25 - Mar 17 by dirtyboy |
defenders should be excluded. |
I disagree with this, especially when you take into account our style. The defenders are required to pass with accuracy out from the back against a high press. We've seen plenty of times what happens when it goes wrong. A CB who can pass is a huge asset. |  | | |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 08:18 - Mar 18 with 541 views | Garv |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 15:53 - Mar 17 by LeoMuff |
Lovely defence splitting pass from Kipre v Stoke |
Off the top of my head Kipre now has three goals and two, maybe three assists.
He and Philogene had built up some great chemistry before his injury. | |
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| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 08:20 - Mar 18 with 519 views | Garv |
| Most accurate passers in the Championship on 06:51 - Mar 18 by RetroBlue |
I remember not that long ago, some on here were wetting themselves about Woolfenden's passing stats and how wonderful they were, ignoring the fact that almost all of these passess were less than 1 meter and usually to his right or backwards. |
He also had the relative luxury of having Sam Morsy available to pass to every time.
I love Matusiwa, how couldn't you? But he doesn't turn and carry the ball like Morsy would. He'd break lines so easily just with a drop of the shoulder or a bit of strength. Now we have to be a bit cuter. | |
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