| Has he gone yet? 20:08 - Mar 26 with 1920 views | jasondozzell |
And if not why not. |  | | |  |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:28 - Mar 26 with 1592 views | TheBlueGnu |
Gone where ?
The toilet ? Rougham ? Great Blakenham ? Nigel Havers' shed ? |  |
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| Has he gone yet? on 23:33 - Mar 26 with 1574 views | reusersfreekicks |
I can't help wondering is MA a reform supporter?
And/or did his own huge ego lead to him believing this was a good idea.
I don't want the CEO/Chair of my club to support a far right racist party.
He needs to eff off and take his bloated self regard with him |  | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:34 - Mar 26 with 1560 views | KBsSocks |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:33 - Mar 26 by reusersfreekicks |
I can't help wondering is MA a reform supporter?
And/or did his own huge ego lead to him believing this was a good idea.
I don't want the CEO/Chair of my club to support a far right racist party.
He needs to eff off and take his bloated self regard with him |
Ego. |  |
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| Has he gone yet? on 23:35 - Mar 26 with 1548 views | boysof1981 |
He’s surely got to go by the next game on Eater Monday, he’s probably just trying to get the club to tell the media it was his decision to go, and not the club to boot him.
Never liked him, too self absorbed and always wanted the limelight, quite funny how it’s blown up in his face.
I have zero inside knowledge of what’s gone on, however my brother who has friends within the club has told me many players and staff went apoplectic when they heard of what went on.
Good riddance to him, and bring in individual CEO & chairman | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:36 - Mar 26 with 1536 views | pointofblue |
I imagine someone like Schwarz will have to come over to sort this mess out,and Ashton will remain as a placeholder until he does so. This is concerning when it comes to their judgement as well. Quite a few of us sounded the alarm that Ashton had full control of the club upon O'Leary's retirement. Hopefully, when (if?!) he goes, we'll have different people in the chairman and CEO roles. | |
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| Has he gone yet? on 04:09 - Mar 27 with 1373 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:33 - Mar 26 by reusersfreekicks |
I can't help wondering is MA a reform supporter?
And/or did his own huge ego lead to him believing this was a good idea.
I don't want the CEO/Chair of my club to support a far right racist party.
He needs to eff off and take his bloated self regard with him |
Even if he does, unfortunately for you, you don’t get to decide who private citizens vote for just because they’re employed by the team you support.
I mean folks on this board literally voted for Corbyn in 2019 and even though ridiculed privately, people still have a beer with them at games as town fans ;)
Keep making it about politics left and right and it will go very south in the stands. The issue is about any political party using the club and the badge in a party promotion and any mistruths thereafter (if that is indeed found to be accurate). [Post edited 27 Mar 4:09]
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| Has he gone yet? on 04:47 - Mar 27 with 1312 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:36 - Mar 26 by pointofblue |
I imagine someone like Schwarz will have to come over to sort this mess out,and Ashton will remain as a placeholder until he does so. This is concerning when it comes to their judgement as well. Quite a few of us sounded the alarm that Ashton had full control of the club upon O'Leary's retirement. Hopefully, when (if?!) he goes, we'll have different people in the chairman and CEO roles. |
What is clear is he had complete control and trust, that was stated many times. Probably quite hard to gage from afar when you don’t know a lot about running a team in the UK.
Instant success probably earns you a lot of said trust I’d imagine but it may well have been misjudged I guess. A lot of people were concerned after O’Leary retired.
I assume ORG will be over and in front of the cameras sooner rather than later. They can’t literally say nothing and just hope all goes quiet before the Birmingham game. Well I guess they could but that would all get a bit weird. | |
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| Has he gone yet? on 05:30 - Mar 27 with 1272 views | rkc123 |
| Has he gone yet? on 04:47 - Mar 27 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
What is clear is he had complete control and trust, that was stated many times. Probably quite hard to gage from afar when you don’t know a lot about running a team in the UK.
Instant success probably earns you a lot of said trust I’d imagine but it may well have been misjudged I guess. A lot of people were concerned after O’Leary retired.
I assume ORG will be over and in front of the cameras sooner rather than later. They can’t literally say nothing and just hope all goes quiet before the Birmingham game. Well I guess they could but that would all get a bit weird. |
It does throw some of the other decision making processes in a different light, particularly over the past year or so. As you say he was clearly in completel control, and I always had concern about that. When success comes it is hard to pinpoint the reason, and you will always get some individuals who benefit from the fact that causation and correlation are hard to pinpoint, i.e. was MA the cause of a lot of the good that came over the past 3-4 years, or did he get pulled along on the coattails of an exceptional manager.
What is now apparent is he is capable of making the most sensational error in judgment, and then acted to compound that error in a completely self serving way. When you look at some of the recruitment over the past couple of years, the high turnover of what were highly regarded staff, and some general lower level PR gafs, you have to think he has probably been given more grace and questioned less than he should have been. | | | |
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| Has he gone yet? on 05:47 - Mar 27 with 1238 views | peterleeblue |
| Has he gone yet? on 04:09 - Mar 27 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Even if he does, unfortunately for you, you don’t get to decide who private citizens vote for just because they’re employed by the team you support.
I mean folks on this board literally voted for Corbyn in 2019 and even though ridiculed privately, people still have a beer with them at games as town fans ;)
Keep making it about politics left and right and it will go very south in the stands. The issue is about any political party using the club and the badge in a party promotion and any mistruths thereafter (if that is indeed found to be accurate). [Post edited 27 Mar 4:09]
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The choice was Corbyn or Boris F@ckin Johnson!!! |  | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 06:13 - Mar 27 with 1160 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Has he gone yet? on 05:30 - Mar 27 by rkc123 |
It does throw some of the other decision making processes in a different light, particularly over the past year or so. As you say he was clearly in completel control, and I always had concern about that. When success comes it is hard to pinpoint the reason, and you will always get some individuals who benefit from the fact that causation and correlation are hard to pinpoint, i.e. was MA the cause of a lot of the good that came over the past 3-4 years, or did he get pulled along on the coattails of an exceptional manager.
What is now apparent is he is capable of making the most sensational error in judgment, and then acted to compound that error in a completely self serving way. When you look at some of the recruitment over the past couple of years, the high turnover of what were highly regarded staff, and some general lower level PR gafs, you have to think he has probably been given more grace and questioned less than he should have been. |
If you’re in the C suite and you make a hire that performs exceptionally well, like he done with McKenna, you get all the credit in the for that appointment (as you should). Much like when a Sales Executive lands a huge client deal, they can often live off that success for quite a while.
I actually thought he done loads of good here off the pitch, both commercially and with the speed of projects like the pitch, training ground, stadium improvements. Going up back to back must have been a hell of a challenge and seemed to get the timing off everything bang on, eg doing the pitch before the Championship season. Stuff like concerts and boxing at PR, impressive to see really. Obviously it’s easier with significant funding but even when you see the modern open plan offices at PR, things like that, it looks like he had a great vision for it.
I had questioned how many hats he was wearing since O’Leary left and how much he was involved in recruitment strategy, as I had a few doubts with since PL promotion (but was often shot down for on here I might add!).
I know little about the senior staff assembled under him from an experience level so would be unfair for me to comment really. Can’t believe how fast this story has moved really, shame to see it unfold like this. | |
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| Has he gone yet? on 06:20 - Mar 27 with 1112 views | Benters |
Why are you so desperate for him to go? |  |
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| Has he gone yet? on 08:48 - Mar 27 with 926 views | jasondozzell |
| Has he gone yet? on 06:20 - Mar 27 by Benters |
Why are you so desperate for him to go? |
Because he's taken the p*ss out of every supporter of the club. He thinks it's his personal fiefdom. It's not. It's our club not his.
Ipswich Town has always had a good reputation. It's seen as a classy club. He's destroyed that. | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:54 - Mar 27 with 877 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Has he gone yet? on 04:09 - Mar 27 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Even if he does, unfortunately for you, you don’t get to decide who private citizens vote for just because they’re employed by the team you support.
I mean folks on this board literally voted for Corbyn in 2019 and even though ridiculed privately, people still have a beer with them at games as town fans ;)
Keep making it about politics left and right and it will go very south in the stands. The issue is about any political party using the club and the badge in a party promotion and any mistruths thereafter (if that is indeed found to be accurate). [Post edited 27 Mar 4:09]
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100% this. It's not about the specific politics. Screaming culture wars at each other hides the real issue.... whilst also, conversely, highlighting exactly why this was such a terrible thing to do, regardless of the specific politics involved. [Post edited 27 Mar 9:02]
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| Has he gone yet? on 08:56 - Mar 27 with 850 views | Blue_Moses |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:48 - Mar 27 by jasondozzell |
Because he's taken the p*ss out of every supporter of the club. He thinks it's his personal fiefdom. It's not. It's our club not his.
Ipswich Town has always had a good reputation. It's seen as a classy club. He's destroyed that. |
I don't personally feel like he's taken the piss out of me, nor do my friends and work colleagues who also support town. In fact I've not yet spoken to one supporter I know who is bothered by it, the subject has barely been discussed. | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:59 - Mar 27 with 816 views | Butterbing |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:56 - Mar 27 by Blue_Moses |
I don't personally feel like he's taken the piss out of me, nor do my friends and work colleagues who also support town. In fact I've not yet spoken to one supporter I know who is bothered by it, the subject has barely been discussed. |
From Phil's article:
"Staff, the vast majority of whom were unaware of the visit, are said to have reacted angrily with some making complaints to the club’s human resources department.
The players are also understood to have been angry to have been associated with Reform without their knowledge and discussed the issue at training on Tuesday.
Prominent sponsors are also understood to have made contact to express their displeasure." |  | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:59 - Mar 27 with 809 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:56 - Mar 27 by Blue_Moses |
I don't personally feel like he's taken the piss out of me, nor do my friends and work colleagues who also support town. In fact I've not yet spoken to one supporter I know who is bothered by it, the subject has barely been discussed. |
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| Has he gone yet? on 09:02 - Mar 27 with 766 views | jasondozzell |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:56 - Mar 27 by Blue_Moses |
I don't personally feel like he's taken the piss out of me, nor do my friends and work colleagues who also support town. In fact I've not yet spoken to one supporter I know who is bothered by it, the subject has barely been discussed. |
You're all content for the club to used as a plaything for a cheap political stunt then? And for the CEO to lie about it? | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 09:07 - Mar 27 with 724 views | lowhouseblue |
| Has he gone yet? on 08:56 - Mar 27 by Blue_Moses |
I don't personally feel like he's taken the piss out of me, nor do my friends and work colleagues who also support town. In fact I've not yet spoken to one supporter I know who is bothered by it, the subject has barely been discussed. |
you've spoken to people?? how does that work? can you still use up and down arrows? |  |
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| Has he gone yet? on 09:15 - Mar 27 with 666 views | braveblue |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:33 - Mar 26 by reusersfreekicks |
I can't help wondering is MA a reform supporter?
And/or did his own huge ego lead to him believing this was a good idea.
I don't want the CEO/Chair of my club to support a far right racist party.
He needs to eff off and take his bloated self regard with him |
I am not a reform voter. But to call all those who are far right and racist is ridiculous. These extreme posts are getting boring and make a nonsense of any argument. | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 09:25 - Mar 27 with 612 views | Ryorry |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:35 - Mar 26 by boysof1981 |
He’s surely got to go by the next game on Eater Monday, he’s probably just trying to get the club to tell the media it was his decision to go, and not the club to boot him.
Never liked him, too self absorbed and always wanted the limelight, quite funny how it’s blown up in his face.
I have zero inside knowledge of what’s gone on, however my brother who has friends within the club has told me many players and staff went apoplectic when they heard of what went on.
Good riddance to him, and bring in individual CEO & chairman |
The reaction from players and staff is hardly surprising when you consider the huge spread of backgrounds and likelihood of some being 2nd/3rd/4th generation descendants of immigrants.
Yet another thing Ashton didn’t stop to consider, it would seem.
Ashton out. |  |
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| Has he gone yet? on 09:29 - Mar 27 with 603 views | TownieRob |
Although I completely disagree with your view, it’s refreshing to see you be anything other than blindly positive about the club.
Today’s going to be a good day. | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 10:27 - Mar 27 with 512 views | jasondozzell |
| Has he gone yet? on 09:29 - Mar 27 by TownieRob |
Although I completely disagree with your view, it’s refreshing to see you be anything other than blindly positive about the club.
Today’s going to be a good day. |
Do you like doom and misery then? | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 10:29 - Mar 27 with 490 views | TownieRob |
| Has he gone yet? on 10:27 - Mar 27 by jasondozzell |
Do you like doom and misery then? |
Nope, just balance and perspective. | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 10:40 - Mar 27 with 456 views | jasondozzell |
| Has he gone yet? on 10:29 - Mar 27 by TownieRob |
Nope, just balance and perspective. |
What's your perspective? KM and team are terrible but Ashton facilitating a political campaign video for Reform that used the club's brand and then lying about it is not really an issue? | | | |
| Has he gone yet? on 11:00 - Mar 27 with 353 views | darkhorse28 |
| Has he gone yet? on 23:33 - Mar 26 by reusersfreekicks |
I can't help wondering is MA a reform supporter?
And/or did his own huge ego lead to him believing this was a good idea.
I don't want the CEO/Chair of my club to support a far right racist party.
He needs to eff off and take his bloated self regard with him |
Are you serious?
I’ve just seen a man in the supermarket, trilly full of cheese, I wondered if you could help me, do you think he likes cheese??
FFS. And his love of any party isn’t the issue - destroying out brand equity, our commercial potential, the brand value of every existing and future player, coach, manager, investor, sponsor, owner, etc of OUR club.
Playing party politics for his ego, HAS destroyed our future and probably our present as a football club…, I’d say the tank stupidity of decision making, was gross misconduct enough.
This isn’t a matter of politics. Stop falling into Ashtons and Faragrs reductive trap, this is 100% about judgement and competence and playing politics with a football club, which has never happened in the history of football for a reason, WE ARE DONE AS A CLUB while he stays. And the longer it takes to get him out, the worse the damage, football doesn’t forget.
But your apathetic, weak as water, apologist post, says 100% how we got here.
Apathetic support, happy with an egomaniac making the whole executive function about HIM and HIM alone.
Where were you when he spent £250 million badly? Made a manager without a seconds elite manager experience one of the best paid in world football? Delivered the worst season in our clubs history?
The apathy. The not wanting to rock the boat. The need to sit on the fence. Be liked.
THAT is how we got here, our club, our brand, our future in tatters.
Zero agency, zero oversight, zero accountability, and that’s from us too!
We didn’t do enough…, me included - I should have got the bed sheets out to get the ego maniac out before this damage was done - nothing to do with his politics. Everything to do with his competence and judgement, for the last two years at least (35 years in truth). | | | |
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