| The ashton statement 22:16 - Mar 27 with 1735 views | FrimleyBlue |
For those who felt it was all an OTT thing then its a great apology. Its something. Late but something but job done.
But the real crux of it is its a proper imo narcisstic apology.
Theres no direct apology to the local media for the lies
No direct apology for endorsing reform by way of approval of club branding to be used in commercial activities
No apology for anything he had actually been involved in
You can almost hear him laughing to werhun as the camera stops rolling and saying that'll shut them up.
The line about successes was all about him. Remember what ive done.
Trotting out his favourites. Be the best version of ourselves.
The Rubbish about changing our policies. Such a corporate bullsht response to being found out.
People have been asking for an apology. Not another ashton self loving video.
The clubs hurting. The fans are hurting. Etc
No its not hurting. Its bloody anger and frustration and he imo has done nothing to respond to that feeling.
Each to their own I know and im sure they'll be a few replies to this from those who have made it known this whole thing has bored them. Theyre entitled to do so. But I do ask them to appreciate that there may still be some anger and frustration out there as he hasnt actually done anything different to what his silence did.
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| The ashton statement on 22:38 - Mar 27 with 1573 views | darkhorse28 |
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| The ashton statement on 22:54 - Mar 27 with 1565 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The lies are disputed though aren't they? He was never going to come out and say I' sorry I lied and agree with everything that was printed, that would essentially be him firing himself? I am not defending him but as recently as yesterday he Ipswich have said there was mistruth in it when asked for comment, correct? However, the publication was the Athletic owned by NYT not some EFL blog with 8k followers.
End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really and why politics should never be mixed with sports. There are some that will be mad at him for saying sorry, I am sure there is plenty going around now calling him weak. There are some people that will accept his apology and want to move on and I suspect there are some that will never forgive him and maybe not even turn up until he's no longer our CEO (suspect it will end up being quite few in number once the dust settles).
I personally think it was very naïve and ill-judged and wouldn't want our badge in the background of any political party promotion but do think some of the reaction has been a bit much to the visit itself. However, acknowledge and also think it's also been handled very poorly, especially in the days following.
I wouldn't tell anyone who to feel about it though, that's really up to the individual to make their own call. [Post edited 27 Mar 22:55]
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| The ashton statement on 23:04 - Mar 27 with 1474 views | vilanovablue |
It felt like sorry being said to me by one of my partners 12 year old kids back in the day. An apology involves taking responsibility Ashton didn't do that. He should also tell us what's going to change. This week has been handled by the club atrociously. Fans left in the dark, terrible press and silence. One of my most depressing weeks as a town fan in 48 years. |  | | |
| The ashton statement on 23:06 - Mar 27 with 1452 views | CrayonKing |
| The ashton statement on 22:54 - Mar 27 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The lies are disputed though aren't they? He was never going to come out and say I' sorry I lied and agree with everything that was printed, that would essentially be him firing himself? I am not defending him but as recently as yesterday he Ipswich have said there was mistruth in it when asked for comment, correct? However, the publication was the Athletic owned by NYT not some EFL blog with 8k followers.
End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really and why politics should never be mixed with sports. There are some that will be mad at him for saying sorry, I am sure there is plenty going around now calling him weak. There are some people that will accept his apology and want to move on and I suspect there are some that will never forgive him and maybe not even turn up until he's no longer our CEO (suspect it will end up being quite few in number once the dust settles).
I personally think it was very naïve and ill-judged and wouldn't want our badge in the background of any political party promotion but do think some of the reaction has been a bit much to the visit itself. However, acknowledge and also think it's also been handled very poorly, especially in the days following.
I wouldn't tell anyone who to feel about it though, that's really up to the individual to make their own call. [Post edited 27 Mar 22:55]
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The lies are disputed only in the vaguest "FAKE NEWS!" kind of way. The Athletic asked for specifics and they refused to comment, presumably because The Athletic has receipts.
I mean, go back a couple of days and the line briefed to Phil and the EADT was "they just booked a tour like anybody else". I think they also originally denied that he met with any club officials! There hasn't been genuine honesty at any point. |  | | |
| The ashton statement on 23:09 - Mar 27 with 1418 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The ashton statement on 23:04 - Mar 27 by vilanovablue |
It felt like sorry being said to me by one of my partners 12 year old kids back in the day. An apology involves taking responsibility Ashton didn't do that. He should also tell us what's going to change. This week has been handled by the club atrociously. Fans left in the dark, terrible press and silence. One of my most depressing weeks as a town fan in 48 years. |
It will be interesting how exactly they are going to change this policy.
If they treat other political parties different from now on because of a new policy, theyve walked into the trap of haven treated reform and farage better than other political parties. They dont really have a choice imo but to allow them to do exactly the same as what's happened this week. What we as a club need to do however is announce when things are happening and what will be included in the event. I.e labour visiting town, will be having a tour, lunch with chairman, shirts and photo opportunities provided. Full transparency.
Obviously they dont need to say it everytime but you'd get the jist of what happens during these visits. That for me is really the only policy change id expect as anything else makes reform look the more beneficial and endorced political party. | |
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| The ashton statement on 23:14 - Mar 27 with 1361 views | TheMoralMajority |
| The ashton statement on 23:09 - Mar 27 by FrimleyBlue |
It will be interesting how exactly they are going to change this policy.
If they treat other political parties different from now on because of a new policy, theyve walked into the trap of haven treated reform and farage better than other political parties. They dont really have a choice imo but to allow them to do exactly the same as what's happened this week. What we as a club need to do however is announce when things are happening and what will be included in the event. I.e labour visiting town, will be having a tour, lunch with chairman, shirts and photo opportunities provided. Full transparency.
Obviously they dont need to say it everytime but you'd get the jist of what happens during these visits. That for me is really the only policy change id expect as anything else makes reform look the more beneficial and endorced political party. |
Nah, don't walk into that trap. It's just more gaslighting.
"The full board of directors are now reviewing the policy regards how we engage with local politicians and political parties."
We have had a policy since the birth of ITFC. We do not platform and promote political parties. This is evidenced by the fact that, up until this week, we have never platformed and promoted a political party.
Just more gaslighting and bluster... not to mention that they denied having any involvement at all for several days. Pretty sure that wasn't a policy before this week either. [Post edited 27 Mar 23:15]
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| The ashton statement on 23:15 - Mar 27 with 1341 views | vapour_trail |
| The ashton statement on 22:54 - Mar 27 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The lies are disputed though aren't they? He was never going to come out and say I' sorry I lied and agree with everything that was printed, that would essentially be him firing himself? I am not defending him but as recently as yesterday he Ipswich have said there was mistruth in it when asked for comment, correct? However, the publication was the Athletic owned by NYT not some EFL blog with 8k followers.
End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really and why politics should never be mixed with sports. There are some that will be mad at him for saying sorry, I am sure there is plenty going around now calling him weak. There are some people that will accept his apology and want to move on and I suspect there are some that will never forgive him and maybe not even turn up until he's no longer our CEO (suspect it will end up being quite few in number once the dust settles).
I personally think it was very naïve and ill-judged and wouldn't want our badge in the background of any political party promotion but do think some of the reaction has been a bit much to the visit itself. However, acknowledge and also think it's also been handled very poorly, especially in the days following.
I wouldn't tell anyone who to feel about it though, that's really up to the individual to make their own call. [Post edited 27 Mar 22:55]
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Yeah I think that’s mostly fair. Not sure the reaction has been over the top if we’re not telling anyone how to feel, that’s just personal.
I do worry about what is in the background. My sense is the club are not remotely bothered by supporter reaction - that’s only about 40 of us on here anyway apparently.
The players and staff is problematic, but a lot more can be done behind closed doors to try and repair some of the damage there.
However, noises about corporate partners and the Sheeran camp’s reaction is what has I suspect, led to the shift in stance which was clearly not the plan earlier on in the week. There could be significant lasting damage done there. Let’s hope not. |  |
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| The ashton statement on 23:22 - Mar 27 with 1269 views | itfc1108 |
| The ashton statement on 23:14 - Mar 27 by TheMoralMajority |
Nah, don't walk into that trap. It's just more gaslighting.
"The full board of directors are now reviewing the policy regards how we engage with local politicians and political parties."
We have had a policy since the birth of ITFC. We do not platform and promote political parties. This is evidenced by the fact that, up until this week, we have never platformed and promoted a political party.
Just more gaslighting and bluster... not to mention that they denied having any involvement at all for several days. Pretty sure that wasn't a policy before this week either. [Post edited 27 Mar 23:15]
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It's like he is saying, that he looked at the policy before what happened on monday, followed it, and what has happened since, has shown that the policy needs to be looked at. | | | |
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| The ashton statement on 00:35 - Mar 28 with 1128 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The ashton statement on 22:54 - Mar 27 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The lies are disputed though aren't they? He was never going to come out and say I' sorry I lied and agree with everything that was printed, that would essentially be him firing himself? I am not defending him but as recently as yesterday he Ipswich have said there was mistruth in it when asked for comment, correct? However, the publication was the Athletic owned by NYT not some EFL blog with 8k followers.
End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really and why politics should never be mixed with sports. There are some that will be mad at him for saying sorry, I am sure there is plenty going around now calling him weak. There are some people that will accept his apology and want to move on and I suspect there are some that will never forgive him and maybe not even turn up until he's no longer our CEO (suspect it will end up being quite few in number once the dust settles).
I personally think it was very naïve and ill-judged and wouldn't want our badge in the background of any political party promotion but do think some of the reaction has been a bit much to the visit itself. However, acknowledge and also think it's also been handled very poorly, especially in the days following.
I wouldn't tell anyone who to feel about it though, that's really up to the individual to make their own call. [Post edited 27 Mar 22:55]
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Spoken like a true Trump voter |  | | |
| The ashton statement on 00:44 - Mar 28 with 1102 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| The ashton statement on 00:35 - Mar 28 by reusersfreekicks |
Spoken like a true Trump voter |
You’ve been crying all week on this board about who other people might or might not vote for, it’s honestly pathetic. | |
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| The ashton statement on 00:51 - Mar 28 with 1055 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The ashton statement on 00:44 - Mar 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
You’ve been crying all week on this board about who other people might or might not vote for, it’s honestly pathetic. |
Amd you've been hiding from the question of did you vote for Trump for a lot longer. Avoiding it when ever asked.
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| The ashton statement on 01:00 - Mar 28 with 1018 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| The ashton statement on 00:51 - Mar 28 by reusersfreekicks |
Amd you've been hiding from the question of did you vote for Trump for a lot longer. Avoiding it when ever asked.
Even more pathetic |
Why on earth would I have to tell some aggressive little stranger on the internet anything? Are you to set the mob on me or get Phil to ban me?
Do you go around asking all kinds of random people who they vote for because you don’t agree with someone they once said?
Are you planning on asking our investors in the next fan forum as well?
Off you pop to bed now. | |
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| The ashton statement on 01:05 - Mar 28 with 999 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The ashton statement on 01:00 - Mar 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Why on earth would I have to tell some aggressive little stranger on the internet anything? Are you to set the mob on me or get Phil to ban me?
Do you go around asking all kinds of random people who they vote for because you don’t agree with someone they once said?
Are you planning on asking our investors in the next fan forum as well?
Off you pop to bed now. |
I'll take that as a yes
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| The ashton statement on 01:13 - Mar 28 with 973 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| The ashton statement on 01:05 - Mar 28 by reusersfreekicks |
I'll take that as a yes
nuff said |
Take it however you want, there’s also the possibility you’d be completely wrong, you’ll have to mull over it I guess. 
Can you make sure you DM me your personal voting history, I’m really interested…. On second thoughts, don’t bother, why would I give a f**k  | |
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| The Ashton statement on 01:21 - Mar 28 with 947 views | WeWereZombies |
The timing of the release of this statement is also classic burying bad news. Quarter of an hour after the England game kicks off, so when many of those affected will be distracted by something else and might just see the headline and not drill down into the detail. [Post edited 28 Mar 10:18]
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| The ashton statement on 01:45 - Mar 28 with 912 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| The ashton statement on 23:06 - Mar 27 by CrayonKing |
The lies are disputed only in the vaguest "FAKE NEWS!" kind of way. The Athletic asked for specifics and they refused to comment, presumably because The Athletic has receipts.
I mean, go back a couple of days and the line briefed to Phil and the EADT was "they just booked a tour like anybody else". I think they also originally denied that he met with any club officials! There hasn't been genuine honesty at any point. |
Yeah, can’t really disagree with any of that, the Athletic would undoubtedly be very well sourced and there’s no specific mention of what was untrue as a rebuttal. Was just stating the official position from yesterday, so in that regard, I’m not particularly surprised at the statement. | |
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| The ashton statement on 06:20 - Mar 28 with 755 views | lurcher |
It was terrible, I honestly feel worse about the events of the last few days after watching that. He is holed below the water line and taking on water, better that he goes now rather than later. |  | | |
| The ashton statement on 07:21 - Mar 28 with 611 views | Steve_M |
| The ashton statement on 22:54 - Mar 27 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The lies are disputed though aren't they? He was never going to come out and say I' sorry I lied and agree with everything that was printed, that would essentially be him firing himself? I am not defending him but as recently as yesterday he Ipswich have said there was mistruth in it when asked for comment, correct? However, the publication was the Athletic owned by NYT not some EFL blog with 8k followers.
End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really and why politics should never be mixed with sports. There are some that will be mad at him for saying sorry, I am sure there is plenty going around now calling him weak. There are some people that will accept his apology and want to move on and I suspect there are some that will never forgive him and maybe not even turn up until he's no longer our CEO (suspect it will end up being quite few in number once the dust settles).
I personally think it was very naïve and ill-judged and wouldn't want our badge in the background of any political party promotion but do think some of the reaction has been a bit much to the visit itself. However, acknowledge and also think it's also been handled very poorly, especially in the days following.
I wouldn't tell anyone who to feel about it though, that's really up to the individual to make their own call. [Post edited 27 Mar 22:55]
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"End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really"
Yeh, and the time to come out with this 'apology' was on Tuesday. That it had to be dragged out of him three days later as he tries to save his job means it's going to placate very few people - earlier in the week I think he could have got away with it. |  |
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| The ashton statement on 07:25 - Mar 28 with 589 views | TheMoralMajority |
| The ashton statement on 07:21 - Mar 28 by Steve_M |
"End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really"
Yeh, and the time to come out with this 'apology' was on Tuesday. That it had to be dragged out of him three days later as he tries to save his job means it's going to placate very few people - earlier in the week I think he could have got away with it. |
100%
For me, at least, this situation, whilst unsavoury, was completely saveable. Some damage would have been done, but I would have been prepared to take a reasonable explanation, genuine contrition and move on.
What has happened since has been nothing short of a disgrace, and is playing the fanbase like mugs.
All so thoroughly unnecessary. | |
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| The ashton statement on 07:27 - Mar 28 with 580 views | bluelagos |
| The ashton statement on 07:21 - Mar 28 by Steve_M |
"End of the day he had to say something but it's no win really"
Yeh, and the time to come out with this 'apology' was on Tuesday. That it had to be dragged out of him three days later as he tries to save his job means it's going to placate very few people - earlier in the week I think he could have got away with it. |
Agree that ship's sailed. The delay on its own show his hand was forced and his apology not genuine. |  |
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| The ashton statement on 07:27 - Mar 28 with 580 views | Dubtractor |
| The ashton statement on 00:35 - Mar 28 by reusersfreekicks |
Spoken like a true Trump voter |
Not sure that is fair or relevant.
I disagree plenty with JJJJ on here, have shared some robust thoughts on politics and football, but I think he's been pretty fair on this all week. |  |
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| The ashton statement on 08:16 - Mar 28 with 462 views | thebooks |
| The Ashton statement on 01:21 - Mar 28 by WeWereZombies |
The timing of the release of this statement is also classic burying bad news. Quarter of an hour after the England game kicks off, so when many of those affected will be distracted by something else and might just see the headline and not drill down into the detail. [Post edited 28 Mar 10:18]
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Yes. I also thought it was interesting that a lot of the “it’s just a bunch of bed-wetting lefties crying over nothing” gang were first up to respond on here. |  | | |
| The ashton statement on 08:46 - Mar 28 with 333 views | Horsham |
I know it’s not quite the point your making Frimmers and I am broadly in agreement with you but feel the need to say this somewhere without making a new thread.The statement and apology was careless and unprofessional. Imagine a professional situation where an apology was due and you got that. It gave me no confidence at all that he was across the issue and had a plan to resolve it.
Basically ‘we’ll have a meeting’.
I want to see a clear communication of what he’s apologising for which he hasn’t given.
I want to see a plan to ensure the club is never embroiled in divisive politics again and its public image and credibility is not put at risk.
I want to see a clear acknowledgment of bad judgment.
I want him to show he understands his responsibility and that he’s accountable
I want a timeline as to when corrective action is taken
I hope to god he shows more professionalism with the investors and stakeholders because watching that snivelling evasive video as an investor I’d struggle to be confident in that man.
He’s got to do much better than that and I’m sure to have got to where he is he must have done previously so why so so incompetent now. His stock has plummeted and he’s got a mountain to climb to regain any sort of credibility. He might be already be toast frankly - when you look at how little he said it smacked of a man who was not controlling his own destiny.
The mission was damage limitation and it’s ticked the box of Ashton speaking but for me I’m very concerned if he’s left in his position for any length of time . |  | | |
| The ashton statement on 09:02 - Mar 28 with 268 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The Ashton statement on 01:21 - Mar 28 by WeWereZombies |
The timing of the release of this statement is also classic burying bad news. Quarter of an hour after the England game kicks off, so when many of those affected will be distracted by something else and might just see the headline and not drill down into the detail. [Post edited 28 Mar 10:18]
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People can easily watch/read it later, as I did. |  |
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| The Ashton statement on 10:09 - Mar 28 with 119 views | WeWereZombies |
| The ashton statement on 09:02 - Mar 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
People can easily watch/read it later, as I did. |
That's not the point though. Timing is not only important in comedy but in tragedy too, the statement is an attempt to take the sting out of the wound that Ashton (or this rarely mentioned Pearce character) has caused to the Club. Reading about it later, and probably amongst already delivered opinions, does not have the same impact on our judgement as the visceral effect of real time delivery.
[Thread title edited, deeply annoyed with him but I see no need to subject Ashton to a lack of capitalisation...] [Post edited 28 Mar 10:18]
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