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My son asked me if the club wants people like him 11:43 - Mar 28 with 8156 viewsBostonManorBlue

I've supported this club for nearly 50 years. My son is 13 and he's just getting to the age where following Town means something to him — not just the football, but belonging to something bigger. He's mixed race.

I'm not here to tell anyone how to vote or what to think about any politician. That's your business.

What I will say is that when my boy saw those photos this week, he asked me whether the club wanted people like him there. I didn't have a good answer.

I don't think most of us — on either side of this argument — want a single kid to feel that way about our club. That's not what Ipswich Town is. That's not what Portman Road is.

I don't care about Ashton's job. I don't care about the politics. I care that my son feels welcome at the ground, and right now he doesn't.

If you think this has all been an overreaction, I'd just ask you to hold that thought for a moment and consider that for some families it wasn't abstract — it was personal.

We've got a promotion to fight for. Let's do that together. But "together" has to mean everyone, including my boy.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:20 - Mar 29 with 992 viewsBostonManorBlue

I wasn’t sure whether to come back to this thread but it felt wrong not to.

Thank you. I genuinely mean that. I showed my son some of your replies yesterday evening and it meant the world to him — and to me. tcblue, your words about PR being a safe space hit home. Indotractor, we read the Sir Bobby quote together. It brought me to tears and it’s getting framed and going on my wall.

BlueArmy96 — thank you for reaching out. The fact that you’re willing to take our story to the board meeting means more than I can say. If anything good comes from this mess, maybe it’s that the people making decisions get to hear what it actually feels like on the other side. And the fact that the club hasn’t reached out to Rainbow Tractors after everything this week tells its own story. That needs to change.

To those who said kind things — there are too many of you to name and I’m grateful for every one.

To those who feel differently, I understand that not everyone sees this the same way, and that’s fine. What matters to me is that my boy now knows that this community has his back. That’s enough.

What I will say is that the response to this post has shown me that only kind words really make a difference to how we feel.

We can’t make Birmingham but we’ll be cheering from afar. We’ll be back at Portman Road as soon as we can. COYB.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:34 - Mar 29 with 896 viewsdarkhorse28

We aren’t Ipswich Town now.

We’re Ashton FC, and we allowed this to happen! We’re are a club built around one man and his values…, again, we allowed that.

Your son should ask how you allowed it, and what you intend to do, because words on a forum to be popular, that’s what got us here!!

Will you stand up and take action to save Ipswich Town and those values, from Mark Ashton FC??

That’s the question your son needs an answer to. He needs actions, because commercially as an entity, we won’t exist without them.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:42 - Mar 29 with 894 viewsSE1blue

So sorry and sad to hear that your son has been impacted by all of this. You should take huge pride and comfort that he was able to talk openly with you about this - celebrate that.

I'm not a parent, but as a teacher, I'd say what we always say to youngsters when bad things happen, and that's to look for the good.

Look at those who are wanting better than what we've been given this week. Look at the numbers questioning and challenging what has happened. Look at all those ready to offer you support and tell you that everyone is welcome. With all this good, things will get better.

As always, when bad things happen, there is always good.

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:43 - Mar 29 with 893 viewsIndotractor

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:34 - Mar 29 by darkhorse28

We aren’t Ipswich Town now.

We’re Ashton FC, and we allowed this to happen! We’re are a club built around one man and his values…, again, we allowed that.

Your son should ask how you allowed it, and what you intend to do, because words on a forum to be popular, that’s what got us here!!

Will you stand up and take action to save Ipswich Town and those values, from Mark Ashton FC??

That’s the question your son needs an answer to. He needs actions, because commercially as an entity, we won’t exist without them.


Ipswich Town F.C. was here 143 years before Mark Ashton and the Americans turned up. Through highs, lows, and everything in between. And we’ll be here 143 years after he’s gone, in whatever shape that looks like.

“We’re Ashton FC”? No—we’re not. That’s giving one fool far more power than he actually has.

Those “suits” are temporary stewards of the club. That’s it. They come, they make their profit, they go. The one constant is the supporters. The identity of this club doesn’t sit in a boardroom—it sits in the stands, in the history, in the people who’ve carried it through generations.

Hold them accountable, fine. But don’t lose your head and pretend the club is theirs forever because at the end of the day, it’s still ours.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 with 881 viewsBucklebury_blue

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:07 - Mar 28 by waveneyblue

Nobody should be made to feel unwelcome anywhere, let alone at a football club they support.

Thats obvious, I'm rather surprised you had to ask.

Unless you've formed a completely incorrect and quite frankly repugnant opinion about me, just because I disagree with the ridiculous level of fuss being made over this.

But I do appreciate that the welcoming left have a real problem being welcoming to anybody who dares offer a different point of view.

Have a splendid afternoon.


I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:48 - Mar 29 with 865 viewsChurchman

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:34 - Mar 29 by darkhorse28

We aren’t Ipswich Town now.

We’re Ashton FC, and we allowed this to happen! We’re are a club built around one man and his values…, again, we allowed that.

Your son should ask how you allowed it, and what you intend to do, because words on a forum to be popular, that’s what got us here!!

Will you stand up and take action to save Ipswich Town and those values, from Mark Ashton FC??

That’s the question your son needs an answer to. He needs actions, because commercially as an entity, we won’t exist without them.


Yes we are

No we are not. No we didn’t. A twenty first century football club needs structure.

What do you expect people to do? It’s a football club with supporters. Those supporters are the same as they were 10 days ago and ten years ago. What happened this week has nothing to do with them whatsoever.

Ashton is an employee. No more no less. You may hate the club - you’ve make that clear every time you post.

I know you are enjoying this. You may be hoping it ceases to exist - you are not alone I’m sure. But you are wrong. This club existed long before Gamechanger, Evans and Sheepshanks and will be around long into the future after the current owners are gone.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:49 - Mar 29 with 859 viewsleitrimblue

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.


Feck me..
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(No subject) (n/t) on 12:49 - Mar 29 with 855 viewsIndotractor

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:20 - Mar 29 by BostonManorBlue

I wasn’t sure whether to come back to this thread but it felt wrong not to.

Thank you. I genuinely mean that. I showed my son some of your replies yesterday evening and it meant the world to him — and to me. tcblue, your words about PR being a safe space hit home. Indotractor, we read the Sir Bobby quote together. It brought me to tears and it’s getting framed and going on my wall.

BlueArmy96 — thank you for reaching out. The fact that you’re willing to take our story to the board meeting means more than I can say. If anything good comes from this mess, maybe it’s that the people making decisions get to hear what it actually feels like on the other side. And the fact that the club hasn’t reached out to Rainbow Tractors after everything this week tells its own story. That needs to change.

To those who said kind things — there are too many of you to name and I’m grateful for every one.

To those who feel differently, I understand that not everyone sees this the same way, and that’s fine. What matters to me is that my boy now knows that this community has his back. That’s enough.

What I will say is that the response to this post has shown me that only kind words really make a difference to how we feel.

We can’t make Birmingham but we’ll be cheering from afar. We’ll be back at Portman Road as soon as we can. COYB.


I am touched to have helped in some small way, I truly mean that. My heart broke to have imagined my son feeling as yours did. I hope that nobody’s son ever feels that way about our club again.

Our club, and our town, is a special place; full of kind and incredible people. Never allow an outsider to make you son feel that he doesn’t belong at our club, he is exactly where he should be.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:53 - Mar 29 with 815 viewsHerbivore

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.


Absolute bellend.

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:58 - Mar 29 with 786 viewsnoggin

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.


"Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets."

Like who?

Edit. Have you even read the op?
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:07 - Mar 29 with 750 viewsBucklebury_blue

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:53 - Mar 29 by Herbivore

Absolute bellend.


If you can only resort to insults you have already lost
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:09 - Mar 29 with 739 viewsleitrimblue

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:07 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

If you can only resort to insults you have already lost


Read the OP and then come back to us
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:11 - Mar 29 with 727 viewspositivity

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:07 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

If you can only resort to insults you have already lost


if you have to resort to making up fictional politicians, you've lost

if you have to resort to hijacking someone's real story, their lived experience, for your own petty points scoring, you've lost

if you have to resort to telling people how they should feel about your football club's ceo lying to the fans and the press and making us a national laughing stock, you've lost

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:15 - Mar 29 with 697 viewsHerbivore

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:07 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

If you can only resort to insults you have already lost


That wasn't an insult, it was an accurate way to describe someone who has come on a thread like this and made the kind of post you've chosen to make. What happened has affected people, including the OP and others on the thread, and all the pointless whataboutery in the world doesn't stop that being the case. Some people - often those sympathetic to the likes of Farage - just lack basic empathy.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:16 - Mar 29 with 697 viewsTheMoralMajority

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:07 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

If you can only resort to insults you have already lost


Engage with the concerns people actually have or don't say anything at all. Making up arguments to suit your narrative is neither argument nor debate, but if it suits you to "win" an argument that you have just made up, then more for you.

To post that on this particular thread, though, is incredibly near-sighted.

Ashton out

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 13:20 - Mar 29 with 668 viewsbrogansnose

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.


I'd just like to say I haven't got ' confected outrage' about what Aston did this week, it's plain anger and there's nothing confected about it.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 14:15 - Mar 29 with 553 viewsNthsuffolkblue

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.


Do you honestly think that if Corbyn had been invited, wined and dined, given free reign with his media team to shoot a promotional video, donated free gear and then published all this as a promotional "Vote Corbyn" video, no one would have objected?

Do you honestly think that no one would have taken issue with the follow-up: "the club had no knowledge of Corbyn privately booking a stadium tour. The club remains apolitical and has always hosted politicians from all political views and is proud to do so"?

Do you honestly think that no one would take issue with those lies being exposed leading to an apology along the lines of "we are sorry some people are upset by what happened. There are a lot of mistruths out there"?

I would suggest that you are sorely mistaken.

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 14:23 - Mar 29 with 532 viewsRyorry

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:20 - Mar 29 by BostonManorBlue

I wasn’t sure whether to come back to this thread but it felt wrong not to.

Thank you. I genuinely mean that. I showed my son some of your replies yesterday evening and it meant the world to him — and to me. tcblue, your words about PR being a safe space hit home. Indotractor, we read the Sir Bobby quote together. It brought me to tears and it’s getting framed and going on my wall.

BlueArmy96 — thank you for reaching out. The fact that you’re willing to take our story to the board meeting means more than I can say. If anything good comes from this mess, maybe it’s that the people making decisions get to hear what it actually feels like on the other side. And the fact that the club hasn’t reached out to Rainbow Tractors after everything this week tells its own story. That needs to change.

To those who said kind things — there are too many of you to name and I’m grateful for every one.

To those who feel differently, I understand that not everyone sees this the same way, and that’s fine. What matters to me is that my boy now knows that this community has his back. That’s enough.

What I will say is that the response to this post has shown me that only kind words really make a difference to how we feel.

We can’t make Birmingham but we’ll be cheering from afar. We’ll be back at Portman Road as soon as we can. COYB.


So happy that's the outcome, and I'd like to endorse what SE1 says in his post of 12.42 - you should be proud of your son, your parenting, & maybe kudos to his school too, that he was able to express his innermost feelings to you.

Please give the team a few cheers for me too when you get back to PR - I live over 200 miles away & can't do the travelling these days. All the best to you and your boy 👍

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 14:26 - Mar 29 with 513 viewsCrayonKing

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.


edit: Deleted. Wasn't the right thread (if there is such a thing) to engage with a troll
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 14:32 - Mar 29 with 483 viewsSwansea_Blue

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 12:45 - Mar 29 by Bucklebury_blue

I'm looking forward to the football starting and an end to all this confected outrage by people who weren't there, aren't affected by any of it. Can't imagine there would be quite so much fuss about a left-wing labour politician who voted for an end to trial by jury, the abortion of babies up to the point of birth and who condones anti-semitic protests in the streets.


That’s a disgusting, dismissive post to write given the context of the OP. It’s very literally a thread about people who are affected. “Confected outrage”. Christ

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 14:37 - Mar 29 with 469 viewslazyblue

Really you should know they are not a raciest party( look who is actually in the party)and no reason they should not be invited to the club.
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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 14:41 - Mar 29 with 444 viewsNthsuffolkblue

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 14:37 - Mar 29 by lazyblue

Really you should know they are not a raciest party( look who is actually in the party)and no reason they should not be invited to the club.


A party that hates immigrants and stands on a platform of demonising immigrants is by definition racist. Farage is clearly a nasty racist. There is plenty of evidence even before you look at the personal testimony of those he has been directly and continuously racist towards. It is a fact that they are a racist party and that he is a nasty racist.

Would you have been happy if Corbyn had been treated exactly the same way?

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My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 16:49 - Mar 29 with 317 viewsDJR

My son asked me if the club wants people like him on 23:58 - Mar 28 by Indotractor

I’m a long time lurker who doesn’t post regularly.

As an ex-academy coach at the club from many years ago, and a father of mixed race children, I am horrified by this.

The famous words of Sir Bobby Robson might give your son a bit of perspective about what this club truly is —and what it isn’t.

He is the club. Ashton isn’t.

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Putting it another way, the club is 148 years old, Ashton has been here for less than 5 years..
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