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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers 08:15 - Mar 31 with 8494 viewsurbanpenguin

People keep writing on here that TWTD is full of "left wingers", or even worse "the far woke".

But is it? I didn't want to do a poll because that would only descend into a binfire, but I am nonetheless interested in the fact some people think this website has an Overton Window further to the left than other places in the world.

I suspect that what's actually happening is that those people who otherwise post on Twitter/X or in closed family Facebook groups are here suddenly encountering different views and counter opinions where normally there's a bubble of agreement.

That doesn't mean that everybody here is left wing, just that perhaps it slightly more reflects a broader society, but they cannot get their minds around that and so just believe and shout that they are drowning in a sea of lefties.

Or perhaps, for no logical reason I can imagine, a thirty year old website run by a couple of football fans has somehow turned into a Suffolk amalgam of Tribune, Pravda and The Morning Star, just with more content about Bontcho.
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This forum has always…. on 11:54 - Mar 31 with 855 viewspositivity

This forum has always…. on 11:52 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

Yes we all think we are right but some of us don't think our opinion is more valid and important than everyone else's.

If the greens had a 10 point lead in the polls I wouldn't be happy but that's democracy. Where as most of the left think they can see the truth as they are so clever and anyone who doesn't agree with their worldview is thick and/or racist.


plenty of people on the right are just as forthright and belittling as the tiny minority on the left who fit that description.

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It’s quite telling that…. on 12:09 - Mar 31 with 795 viewsBloots

This forum has always…. on 11:43 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

It's pretty pointless. I engage. Others do as well but the left on here generally think it's morally superior and talk down to everyone who in their eyes isn't as enlightened as them.

That's not a great starting point. Anyone looking at TWTD would assume society heavily leans to the left. Then we regularly get 'shocks' like Trump/Brexit when people get into the privacy of the voting booth.

Why does the left have this attitude of being morally superior and believe they are 100% right when society as a whole seems to be at the very least in the centre and probably towards the right? This is usually where they mention the media and how we're all brainwashed thickos.

If we're asking questions why do the centre right posters on here all post with one username but the lefty mafia have new posters every week who have knowledge of TWTD going back over a decade? Why so many alt accounts?

The whole thing is bizarre. Even the whats app group joke is based on actual proof of posters co-ordinating their responses (to be clear, none of them post at this time as far as I know although at least one did admit to having an alt so not 100% sure).


….when a poster gets banned from here, the “right wingers” tend to get banned for “trolling or stirring” whereas the LBF/FW posters tend to get banned for being abusive.

Of course that may be just a coincidence.

Strange old place.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:17 - Mar 31 with 774 viewsHerbivore

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 10:36 - Mar 31 by LA_Tractor_Boy

Obviously you care about politics and I don't. Not loudly and proudly, but it's all a bit 'meh' to me.

Genuine question. As it's so important to you, what do you do to influence anything other than pay to join a union and stick a cross in a box?!


Being part of a union is important, a collective has far more influence than an individual so being part of a union is political.

But there's a lot else I've done or still do. I studied politics at university so I have a good understanding of how politics works, and it's important as a citizen to understand politics given we all have a vote. Beyond that, I've always worked in professions and for organisations that are non-profit and that support or educate people. Just yesterday I was working with some practitioners and we had a session on how political discourses shape their work and the lives of the people they support. We spoke about increasing anti-trans sentiment, misogyny, hostility towards immigrants, and cost of living as political hot topics that directly impact on the work they do and the people who they support.

I've made representations to my local MPs (of different stripes) on local and national issues. I've attended demonstrations on topics I feel are important. I was a Green party member years ago but no longer pin my colours to a party mast as none fully represent my politics, instead I vote for whoever is most closely aligned and whose vision for the country I think is best. I have no interest in entering politics myself, the party political system in the UK leaves me cold really.

There's other stuff as well but I think I do a fair bit to try and influence society for the better, through my own actions and through trying to influence where I can.

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This forum has always…. on 12:18 - Mar 31 with 763 viewsHerbivore

This forum has always…. on 11:52 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

Yes we all think we are right but some of us don't think our opinion is more valid and important than everyone else's.

If the greens had a 10 point lead in the polls I wouldn't be happy but that's democracy. Where as most of the left think they can see the truth as they are so clever and anyone who doesn't agree with their worldview is thick and/or racist.


You seem to have turned into a parody account.

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It’s quite telling that…. on 12:20 - Mar 31 with 749 viewspositivity

It’s quite telling that…. on 12:09 - Mar 31 by Bloots

….when a poster gets banned from here, the “right wingers” tend to get banned for “trolling or stirring” whereas the LBF/FW posters tend to get banned for being abusive.

Of course that may be just a coincidence.

Strange old place.


plenty of right-wingers been banned on here for racist and abusive posts this week, not seen any of the "lefty snowflakes" (definition: anyone who wants ashton out) go?

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This forum has always…. on 12:20 - Mar 31 with 746 viewsNthsuffolkblue

This forum has always…. on 11:52 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

Yes we all think we are right but some of us don't think our opinion is more valid and important than everyone else's.

If the greens had a 10 point lead in the polls I wouldn't be happy but that's democracy. Where as most of the left think they can see the truth as they are so clever and anyone who doesn't agree with their worldview is thick and/or racist.


"most of the left" do?

Wow.

Thanks.

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This forum has always…. on 12:21 - Mar 31 with 727 viewsJ2BLUE

This forum has always…. on 12:18 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

You seem to have turned into a parody account.


*grabs a pen to play up vote bingo*

Truly impaired.
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This forum has always…. on 12:24 - Mar 31 with 720 viewsHerbivore

This forum has always…. on 12:21 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

*grabs a pen to play up vote bingo*


Astute and accurate posts often get upvotes on TWTD.

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This forum has always…. on 12:29 - Mar 31 with 671 viewsJ2BLUE

This forum has always…. on 12:24 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

Astute and accurate posts often get upvotes on TWTD.


Thank you

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This forum has always…. on 12:33 - Mar 31 with 661 viewsWeWereZombies

This forum has always…. on 11:23 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

100% this.

With a rolling cast of the same 10ish core posters with their alt log ins who absolutely dominate any political thread.


Ah, yes, I pine for those salad days when we could leave all the posting and alternate user names to Blueas too...

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:38 - Mar 31 with 611 viewslowhouseblue

left v. right isn't the only spectrum. there is a group on here, and it's true about online politics more generally, who are intolerant and blinkered and who see politics in terms of certainty. they refuse to accept that others can hold different opinions legitimately, reject diversity of view, and a large part of what they post is simply intended to deny the legitimacy of political disagreement. so just as there is a left - right spectrum there is an acceptance v. denial of political plurality spectrum, and we have a group on here who are alas at the denial end of the latter.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:43 - Mar 31 with 607 viewsNthsuffolkblue

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:38 - Mar 31 by lowhouseblue

left v. right isn't the only spectrum. there is a group on here, and it's true about online politics more generally, who are intolerant and blinkered and who see politics in terms of certainty. they refuse to accept that others can hold different opinions legitimately, reject diversity of view, and a large part of what they post is simply intended to deny the legitimacy of political disagreement. so just as there is a left - right spectrum there is an acceptance v. denial of political plurality spectrum, and we have a group on here who are alas at the denial end of the latter.


You are certainly correct and anyone who disagrees with that most certainly isn't.

EDITED for clarity. This was meant completely facetiously. I actually haven't a clue what lowhouse is attempting to say.
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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:48 - Mar 31 with 577 viewsJ2BLUE

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:38 - Mar 31 by lowhouseblue

left v. right isn't the only spectrum. there is a group on here, and it's true about online politics more generally, who are intolerant and blinkered and who see politics in terms of certainty. they refuse to accept that others can hold different opinions legitimately, reject diversity of view, and a large part of what they post is simply intended to deny the legitimacy of political disagreement. so just as there is a left - right spectrum there is an acceptance v. denial of political plurality spectrum, and we have a group on here who are alas at the denial end of the latter.


This

Truly impaired.
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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:55 - Mar 31 with 564 viewsHerbivore

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:48 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

This


You HAVE turned into a parody account.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:57 - Mar 31 with 545 viewsGlasgowBlue

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:38 - Mar 31 by lowhouseblue

left v. right isn't the only spectrum. there is a group on here, and it's true about online politics more generally, who are intolerant and blinkered and who see politics in terms of certainty. they refuse to accept that others can hold different opinions legitimately, reject diversity of view, and a large part of what they post is simply intended to deny the legitimacy of political disagreement. so just as there is a left - right spectrum there is an acceptance v. denial of political plurality spectrum, and we have a group on here who are alas at the denial end of the latter.


The idea that people's political views are a reflection of their moral compass is so polarising. People with different views are no longer people to be engaged with and debated with. They are your enemies and they are evil.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:00 - Mar 31 with 545 viewsHerbivore

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:57 - Mar 31 by GlasgowBlue

The idea that people's political views are a reflection of their moral compass is so polarising. People with different views are no longer people to be engaged with and debated with. They are your enemies and they are evil.


People make repeated attempts to engage with posters of all political leanings but engagement is a two way street and it rarely comes back the other way.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:01 - Mar 31 with 524 viewsJ2BLUE

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 12:55 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

You HAVE turned into a parody account.


Well obviously you are not going to agree.

I respect your right to disagree, even though I think it's completely wrong. You just tell me i've become a parody.

The next steps are for back up to arrive, move the goalposts, all up vote each other and then finally, once the nightshift begins, release Big Al to come and call us something hilarious like tweedles or dummies.

Truly impaired.
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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:03 - Mar 31 with 519 viewsHerbivore

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:01 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

Well obviously you are not going to agree.

I respect your right to disagree, even though I think it's completely wrong. You just tell me i've become a parody.

The next steps are for back up to arrive, move the goalposts, all up vote each other and then finally, once the nightshift begins, release Big Al to come and call us something hilarious like tweedles or dummies.


This is tin foil hat stuff, J2. I like you but your reading of what happens on here is very blinkered.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:04 - Mar 31 with 497 viewsJ2BLUE

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:03 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

This is tin foil hat stuff, J2. I like you but your reading of what happens on here is very blinkered.


Of course it is! Not at all based on seeing it happen repeatedly for years.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:11 - Mar 31 with 463 viewsHerbivore

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:04 - Mar 31 by J2BLUE

Of course it is! Not at all based on seeing it happen repeatedly for years.


We see what we choose to see.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:14 - Mar 31 with 452 viewsurbanpenguin

This has been a genuinely interesting and open conversation of a few pages, with questions and answers and insight.

I hope that the few people who have just found the thread and are now throwing out monosyballic comments spend a few minutes to (properly) read through the chat before trying to turn it into the binfire I mentioned in the opening post.
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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:18 - Mar 31 with 423 viewsHerbivore

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:14 - Mar 31 by urbanpenguin

This has been a genuinely interesting and open conversation of a few pages, with questions and answers and insight.

I hope that the few people who have just found the thread and are now throwing out monosyballic comments spend a few minutes to (properly) read through the chat before trying to turn it into the binfire I mentioned in the opening post.


It was inevitable the usual suspects would turn up to use the thread to complain about the left, as for some that's the sole contribution they make when it comes to politics.

It was a good thread with some interesting comments about politics, its importance, and the shift to the right that we've experienced domestically and internationally.

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:19 - Mar 31 with 414 viewspositivity

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:14 - Mar 31 by urbanpenguin

This has been a genuinely interesting and open conversation of a few pages, with questions and answers and insight.

I hope that the few people who have just found the thread and are now throwing out monosyballic comments spend a few minutes to (properly) read through the chat before trying to turn it into the binfire I mentioned in the opening post.


hasn't been that insightful, j2 won't tell us who the alt accounts are.

thought we'd have seen a stunning expose from the man in the know, very disappointed!

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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:23 - Mar 31 with 389 viewsBlueschev

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:11 - Mar 31 by Herbivore

We see what we choose to see.


You clearly were not in a Monday night 7 a side Whatsapp group during lockdown. It was bombarded with things I'd never choose to see.
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TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:26 - Mar 31 with 377 viewsLibero

TWTD is a hotbed of left wingers on 13:23 - Mar 31 by Blueschev

You clearly were not in a Monday night 7 a side Whatsapp group during lockdown. It was bombarded with things I'd never choose to see.


Very real.

I swear the idiocy displayed over the pandemic by a number of the men I played football with, is just as much a part of why I no longer wish to play football, as my chronic illness is.
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