| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... 12:44 - Mar 31 with 3551 views | ElderGrizzly |
We're at the flailing stage of the Iran War
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:23 - Mar 31 with 745 views | Guthrum |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 13:19 - Mar 31 by ElderGrizzly |
It's farcical on one level, but as mentioned above this lot are so unhinged, would they go nuclear just to 'finish the job'? |
Thing is, what could they nuke which would make any difference to the situation beyond horrifying world opinion?
The Iranian regime is dispersed and hardened enough they would survive fairly intact. It wouldn't end the war. It wouldn't even reopen the Strait of Hormuz. It would very likely leave a lot of civilians dead and fall-out spreading across the wider region (which includes US allies).
Nuclear weapons really aren't very useful except in a last-ditch war of survival, or as an unused deterrant. |  |
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| Pretty much none of the oil the UK uses on 14:28 - Mar 31 with 736 views | Guthrum |
comes from the Gulf anyway. Most of it is sourced from the USA and Norway, plus Libya and Nigeria.
So he's spouting double guff, unaware of his own export market. | |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:29 - Mar 31 with 729 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:12 - Mar 31 by MattinLondon |
You do know that 90% of known North Sea oil had already been extracted? What remains is quite difficult to get and so consequently will be very expensive. |
In the context of the last 50 years of E&P, and UK consumption likely peaked, it’s still a huge volume which could provide upto half of our needs.
Shipping it in at a higher carbon cost, whilst enriching dictators rather than funding UK public services just makes little sense to me. [Post edited 31 Mar 14:30]
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:31 - Mar 31 with 702 views | Benters |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:29 - Mar 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
In the context of the last 50 years of E&P, and UK consumption likely peaked, it’s still a huge volume which could provide upto half of our needs.
Shipping it in at a higher carbon cost, whilst enriching dictators rather than funding UK public services just makes little sense to me. [Post edited 31 Mar 14:30]
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This. |  |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:35 - Mar 31 with 697 views | redrickstuhaart |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:29 - Mar 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
In the context of the last 50 years of E&P, and UK consumption likely peaked, it’s still a huge volume which could provide upto half of our needs.
Shipping it in at a higher carbon cost, whilst enriching dictators rather than funding UK public services just makes little sense to me. [Post edited 31 Mar 14:30]
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Apart from the extraction cost being high on difficult and smaller reserves. And the imperative to focus firmly on better alternatives. This is nonsense and you know it. | |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:44 - Mar 31 with 666 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:35 - Mar 31 by redrickstuhaart |
Apart from the extraction cost being high on difficult and smaller reserves. And the imperative to focus firmly on better alternatives. This is nonsense and you know it. |
It’s not nonsense, I’m in a supporting industry, there’s quite literally people that want to do it, because the economics are there, what a ridiculous response. There’s still some decently sized potential fields, onshore infrastructure, and we aren’t going back to $60bbl for quite some time. The only reason the projects haven’t progressed is because government won’t issue new licenses, not because they fields are too difficult to exploit. [Post edited 31 Mar 14:47]
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:07 - Mar 31 with 608 views | redrickstuhaart |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:44 - Mar 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
It’s not nonsense, I’m in a supporting industry, there’s quite literally people that want to do it, because the economics are there, what a ridiculous response. There’s still some decently sized potential fields, onshore infrastructure, and we aren’t going back to $60bbl for quite some time. The only reason the projects haven’t progressed is because government won’t issue new licenses, not because they fields are too difficult to exploit. [Post edited 31 Mar 14:47]
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This has no impact on current supply issues and the profit goes straight to oil companies. The imperative is clearly toove away from fossil fuels for very sound reasons. It's not difficult. | |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:26 - Mar 31 with 570 views | eireblue |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:31 - Mar 31 by Benters |
This. |
Some rough maths for you Benters.
Barrels of oil used per day in U.K.: 1,395,410
Barrels of oil produced in North Sea by U.K., per day: 738,801
So 656,609 short fall.
Let’s put it this way.
Your garden needs 4 water butts of water a day. You know this for a fact. Otherwise the garden dies off.
You currently support the loudmouth in the Pub, that is saying your garden needs 2 water butts a day,……the loudmouth has never worked in a garden……. |  | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:28 - Mar 31 with 562 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:07 - Mar 31 by redrickstuhaart |
This has no impact on current supply issues and the profit goes straight to oil companies. The imperative is clearly toove away from fossil fuels for very sound reasons. It's not difficult. |
But the state would receive more of the profit than the E&P companies - that’s already been explained to you, so no it won’t all go to oil companies as you keep claiming. It’s not difficult.
And yes it would have an impact on energy security as it would be piped straight onshore to the UK rather than LNG being hijacked by the highest bidder in international waters.
Production makes no difference to consumption, we use the same amount whether it is exploitwd domestically, or shipped in. Plus you have the additional carbon being produced by shipping it. For each shipment there is more carbon than a pipeline- it’s the very definition of virtue signalling. | | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:31 - Mar 31 with 552 views | Swansea_Blue |
Following a detailed forensic analysis of Trump and Hegseth, I've come to the conclusion they're a pair of bellends. |  |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:31 - Mar 31 with 546 views | eireblue |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:28 - Mar 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
But the state would receive more of the profit than the E&P companies - that’s already been explained to you, so no it won’t all go to oil companies as you keep claiming. It’s not difficult.
And yes it would have an impact on energy security as it would be piped straight onshore to the UK rather than LNG being hijacked by the highest bidder in international waters.
Production makes no difference to consumption, we use the same amount whether it is exploitwd domestically, or shipped in. Plus you have the additional carbon being produced by shipping it. For each shipment there is more carbon than a pipeline- it’s the very definition of virtue signalling. |
So what you are saying is, the quicker we can get off consuming stored energy from the Sun, to getting direct energy from the Sun, the better? | | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:32 - Mar 31 with 543 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:31 - Mar 31 by eireblue |
So what you are saying is, the quicker we can get off consuming stored energy from the Sun, to getting direct energy from the Sun, the better? |
Absolutely, with a nuclear base load (check energy costs and post Ukraine inflation in France). Alas decades of poor governance has seen us with the most expensive energy in the west. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:36]
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:36 - Mar 31 with 529 views | eirannach_gorm |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 13:15 - Mar 31 by Illinoisblue |
Hegseth’s presser right now is a classic. He visited the troops at the weekend and claimed one female soldier asked him, with a smile on her face, “Sir, can we have more bombs, bigger bombs.”
If America was a sitcom it would be dismissed as being way too ridiculous. |
This springs to mind.
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:39 - Mar 31 with 517 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:28 - Mar 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
But the state would receive more of the profit than the E&P companies - that’s already been explained to you, so no it won’t all go to oil companies as you keep claiming. It’s not difficult.
And yes it would have an impact on energy security as it would be piped straight onshore to the UK rather than LNG being hijacked by the highest bidder in international waters.
Production makes no difference to consumption, we use the same amount whether it is exploitwd domestically, or shipped in. Plus you have the additional carbon being produced by shipping it. For each shipment there is more carbon than a pipeline- it’s the very definition of virtue signalling. |
I thought we had to export most of the NS oil because either it isn't suitable for our refineries, or we only need a small amount of the type of oil produced from the NS? So from an energy security point it wouldn't improve much. I could be wrong on that.
(Notwithstanding that we should be focussing away from oil and gas as much as possible). | |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:48 - Mar 31 with 481 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:39 - Mar 31 by Swansea_Blue |
I thought we had to export most of the NS oil because either it isn't suitable for our refineries, or we only need a small amount of the type of oil produced from the NS? So from an energy security point it wouldn't improve much. I could be wrong on that.
(Notwithstanding that we should be focussing away from oil and gas as much as possible). |
For petroleum and diesel products yes, but oil is less of an issue for the UK since it’s mostly imported from less volitile places (US and Norway) so supplies are more secure, I.e not the Middle East. Gas is more the issue because a lot of it is shipped from the Middle East as LNG (particularly Qatar). Therefore, new UK gas fields could replace at least some of our LNG imports. | | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:48 - Mar 31 with 476 views | redrickstuhaart |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:28 - Mar 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
But the state would receive more of the profit than the E&P companies - that’s already been explained to you, so no it won’t all go to oil companies as you keep claiming. It’s not difficult.
And yes it would have an impact on energy security as it would be piped straight onshore to the UK rather than LNG being hijacked by the highest bidder in international waters.
Production makes no difference to consumption, we use the same amount whether it is exploitwd domestically, or shipped in. Plus you have the additional carbon being produced by shipping it. For each shipment there is more carbon than a pipeline- it’s the very definition of virtue signalling. |
When did it become an issue about state profit? It's not. | |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:56 - Mar 31 with 453 views | bluester |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:23 - Mar 31 by Guthrum |
Thing is, what could they nuke which would make any difference to the situation beyond horrifying world opinion?
The Iranian regime is dispersed and hardened enough they would survive fairly intact. It wouldn't end the war. It wouldn't even reopen the Strait of Hormuz. It would very likely leave a lot of civilians dead and fall-out spreading across the wider region (which includes US allies).
Nuclear weapons really aren't very useful except in a last-ditch war of survival, or as an unused deterrant. |
Using an EPW against one of the granite missile bunkers is more likely than destroying a city I'd have thought.
Would still be an extremely stupid idea. | | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:59 - Mar 31 with 444 views | Churchman |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 13:55 - Mar 31 by The_Major |
Kegsbreath now having a go at the RN.
Hegseth: "The president was clear this morning in his Truth that there are countries around the world who ought to be prepared to step up on this critical waterway as well. Last time I checked there was supposed to be a big bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like that." — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-03-31T12:30:38.751Z
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We don’t have a navy worth the name any more so forget that. Even the one minesweeper is being repaired.
After the government’s response to the US over use of bases - which despite Starmer’s tough noise, it used anyway, we can hardly moan when they say make your own arrangements for oil. It’s our leeching off the US for defence for years and not looking after ourselves that has led to what could easily be economic disaster.
The US have caused this mess and we are back in the age of might is right. We are powerless to defend ourselves or our interests. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:59]
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 16:00 - Mar 31 with 440 views | redrickstuhaart |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:59 - Mar 31 by Churchman |
We don’t have a navy worth the name any more so forget that. Even the one minesweeper is being repaired.
After the government’s response to the US over use of bases - which despite Starmer’s tough noise, it used anyway, we can hardly moan when they say make your own arrangements for oil. It’s our leeching off the US for defence for years and not looking after ourselves that has led to what could easily be economic disaster.
The US have caused this mess and we are back in the age of might is right. We are powerless to defend ourselves or our interests. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:59]
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We already buy most of our oil from Norway and the US. It's nonsense. | |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 16:03 - Mar 31 with 422 views | Churchman |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 16:00 - Mar 31 by redrickstuhaart |
We already buy most of our oil from Norway and the US. It's nonsense. |
Fair enough, can’t argue with the oil bit. The stats attached show the breakdown
https://www.statista.com/stati | | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 16:15 - Mar 31 with 371 views | redrickstuhaart |
We also export petrol as we produce more than we use.
Which just highlights how wrong the arguments are for drilling to reduce petrol process and ensure supply! | |
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| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 16:41 - Mar 31 with 329 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 15:48 - Mar 31 by redrickstuhaart |
When did it become an issue about state profit? It's not. |
You said twice (incorrectly) that all the profit goes to the oil majors, I was simply correcting you.
Not necessarily your fault, most people don’t realise the windfall levy is still in place on oil companies. In fact that’s why I view Polanski as a populist - I saw him the other day saying oil and gas companies don’t pay enough tax, does he even know it’s upto 78pc, or is he being dishonest? Same with the Tories suggesting more UK production would bring down prices - that’s not how the market works. Not to mention they had 14 years to improve UK energy policy.
Unfortunately politics seems to be at a low ebb where facts are no longer important, which I suppose is totally relevant to another Trump thread. | | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 16:52 - Mar 31 with 310 views | Churchman |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 16:15 - Mar 31 by redrickstuhaart |
We also export petrol as we produce more than we use.
Which just highlights how wrong the arguments are for drilling to reduce petrol process and ensure supply! |
The only reason to drill then is for tax receipts? - but whether a company would see it viable to drill for oil from fields with declining reserves sounds doubtful.
Tbh I clearly don’t know enough about it. | | | |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 17:01 - Mar 31 with 292 views | vapour_trail |
| "Go get your own oil" - Trump to the UK today... on 14:22 - Mar 31 by redrickstuhaart |
He should decline. |
He should send Andrew. |  |
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The diplomatic strategy here is about as well thought out as the wider war strategy as a whole. 