| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste 15:27 - Apr 9 with 3615 views | tractorboy1978 |
Playing down the knee 'issue' and effectively saying he hasn't been good enough this season or suitable enough to play at this level. [Post edited 9 Apr 15:27]
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:35 - Apr 9 with 2867 views | positivity |
but more suited to a higher level? (only reading into phil's post rather than having heard the ful presser) | |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:35 - Apr 9 with 2869 views | nrb1985 |
Glaringly obvious he’s not been good enough.
Stealing a living for the most part this year. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:41 - Apr 9 with 2796 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
That's one way to read it.
Listening to exactly what Kieran said, IMO it was more a case of saying that the Championship hasn't suited his game, making him less effective, and he far better suited to the PL or a higher level elsewhere. Many said that the Championship might not suit him (although most mentioned the physicality / his injury rather that how he played), and for me that is what KmK was speaking about. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:48 - Apr 9 with 2691 views | Clutch |
He was our best midfielder in the premier league. |  | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:55 - Apr 9 with 2577 views | _CliveBaker_ |
He doesn't have the dog in him. Its a shame as he's clearly talented, he just isn't the sort of profile that gets you a scrappy win away at Derby. |  | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:57 - Apr 9 with 2523 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:41 - Apr 9 by SuffolkPunchFC |
That's one way to read it.
Listening to exactly what Kieran said, IMO it was more a case of saying that the Championship hasn't suited his game, making him less effective, and he far better suited to the PL or a higher level elsewhere. Many said that the Championship might not suit him (although most mentioned the physicality / his injury rather that how he played), and for me that is what KmK was speaking about. |
It's hard to square the circle of him being good enough to play for 'the big clubs in Europe' (McKenna's words) and barely being able to get off the bench for us in the Championship recently. He's a highlights reel player that may look more suited with more time on the ball a level higher in an offensive sense but defensively he is a liability. A lot ignored/missed it last season but he's been found out even at this level in that respect. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:09 - Apr 9 with 2354 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:57 - Apr 9 by tractorboy1978 |
It's hard to square the circle of him being good enough to play for 'the big clubs in Europe' (McKenna's words) and barely being able to get off the bench for us in the Championship recently. He's a highlights reel player that may look more suited with more time on the ball a level higher in an offensive sense but defensively he is a liability. A lot ignored/missed it last season but he's been found out even at this level in that respect. |
You're entitled to you opinion, but I couldn't' disagree more with your huge leap and final assertion. Kieran clearly disagrees with you too (beyond the point that it hasn't worked out for him and us in the Championship, which we all see).
We'll just need to agree to disagree.
We'll also get a better understanding of how Kieran rates him over the summer, if we get promoted. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:14 - Apr 9 with 2271 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:41 - Apr 9 by SuffolkPunchFC |
That's one way to read it.
Listening to exactly what Kieran said, IMO it was more a case of saying that the Championship hasn't suited his game, making him less effective, and he far better suited to the PL or a higher level elsewhere. Many said that the Championship might not suit him (although most mentioned the physicality / his injury rather that how he played), and for me that is what KmK was speaking about. |
Then it seems a little bit of poor judgment on our side considering we had him for a year and also know all about the Championship. Jordan James would have been a deal thag could easily have been done. |  |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:19 - Apr 9 with 2206 views | Kieran_Knows |
He’s not wrong. Said it all along, when the Saudis didn’t want him last summer that was the red flag.
4th choice Championship centre mid, which is some decline in 12 months. |  |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:19 - Apr 9 with 2187 views | franz_tyson |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:48 - Apr 9 by Clutch |
He was our best midfielder in the premier league. |
Maybe, but not much competition.
Personally, I'd go for Morsy because he did all the dirty work, got found out, but still showed bottle to still get back up and show for the ball. Cajuste didn't back Morsy up and went missing, but got a free pass because he did a couple of fancy turns per game. Completely over-rated last season, but the bar was set very low.
Funny how a few are still making excuses for him and writing a narrative ie he's too good for this level. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:24 - Apr 9 with 2127 views | hoppy |
So he wasn't signed as a 'cheat code' for the Championship then? |  |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:24 - Apr 9 with 2118 views | LankHenners |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:57 - Apr 9 by tractorboy1978 |
It's hard to square the circle of him being good enough to play for 'the big clubs in Europe' (McKenna's words) and barely being able to get off the bench for us in the Championship recently. He's a highlights reel player that may look more suited with more time on the ball a level higher in an offensive sense but defensively he is a liability. A lot ignored/missed it last season but he's been found out even at this level in that respect. |
McKenna's not afraid to use effusive language when sticking up for/praising his players (or ones he wants to sign - Dane 'best young striker in Europe' Scarlett), so maybe the real test of how much he means what he says will become apparent if we go up and therefore trigger the option to sign him permanently.
Always thought there was a bit of a risk/reward deal with Cajuste - yeah you probably lose a bit of solidity in midfield but at this level his attributes going forwards might have outweighed that through virtue of being far more talented than most players he'd be in direct opposition to.
Fair to say just not worked out that way at all really - think a chunk of the criticism has been OTT in the same manner that it's been OTT about Hirst, McAteer etc., but, regardless of what McKenna says he has also simply looked unfit for a large part of the season. |  |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:24 - Apr 9 with 2120 views | portmanking |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:19 - Apr 9 by franz_tyson |
Maybe, but not much competition.
Personally, I'd go for Morsy because he did all the dirty work, got found out, but still showed bottle to still get back up and show for the ball. Cajuste didn't back Morsy up and went missing, but got a free pass because he did a couple of fancy turns per game. Completely over-rated last season, but the bar was set very low.
Funny how a few are still making excuses for him and writing a narrative ie he's too good for this level. |
Yeah, if Morsy had someone with proper legs or defensive nous alongside him last season (dare I say it, Matusiwa?!) we'd have more points on the board, for sure. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:25 - Apr 9 with 2114 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:48 - Apr 9 by Clutch |
He was our best midfielder in the premier league. |
I would’ve been our best midfielder in the Prem. | |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:26 - Apr 9 with 2098 views | RetroBlue |
I'd say this was a poor recruitment by the club. But we stitched ourselves up re Morsey and coukdnt get Hackney and were looking around for anyone really..
I'd also ask why the Club had kept Ashley Young as registered for 2nd half of the season when it was clear his " serious hip injury' and the age group he is, he'd be unlikely to participate much in games. Thus is not a judgement on his personally , just being realistic about his ditiation at this stage in his career.
I feel we should have de-registered him and thrn had space to bring in another player... |  |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:30 - Apr 9 with 2021 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:24 - Apr 9 by LankHenners |
McKenna's not afraid to use effusive language when sticking up for/praising his players (or ones he wants to sign - Dane 'best young striker in Europe' Scarlett), so maybe the real test of how much he means what he says will become apparent if we go up and therefore trigger the option to sign him permanently.
Always thought there was a bit of a risk/reward deal with Cajuste - yeah you probably lose a bit of solidity in midfield but at this level his attributes going forwards might have outweighed that through virtue of being far more talented than most players he'd be in direct opposition to.
Fair to say just not worked out that way at all really - think a chunk of the criticism has been OTT in the same manner that it's been OTT about Hirst, McAteer etc., but, regardless of what McKenna says he has also simply looked unfit for a large part of the season. |
It was reported as an obligation, not an option, if promoted. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:32 - Apr 9 with 1995 views | ReusersTown |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:25 - Apr 9 by Kieran_Knows |
I would’ve been our best midfielder in the Prem. |
Lovely bit of disrespect to Morsy there. Classy. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:33 - Apr 9 with 1974 views | SitfcB |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:32 - Apr 9 by ReusersTown |
Lovely bit of disrespect to Morsy there. Classy. |
It’s not that deep jesus. |  |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:35 - Apr 9 with 1963 views | SitfcB |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:19 - Apr 9 by Kieran_Knows |
He’s not wrong. Said it all along, when the Saudis didn’t want him last summer that was the red flag.
4th choice Championship centre mid, which is some decline in 12 months. |
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but the fanbase were wañking themselves silly when he did eventually sign, except you maybe  | |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:38 - Apr 9 with 1908 views | ReusersTown |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:33 - Apr 9 by SitfcB |
It’s not that deep jesus. |
Pretty much your opinion on everything, apart from when it comes to b*tching about the team and players. | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:42 - Apr 9 with 1857 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:14 - Apr 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Then it seems a little bit of poor judgment on our side considering we had him for a year and also know all about the Championship. Jordan James would have been a deal thag could easily have been done. |
Well, we know he wasn't one of our top targets and Hackney turning us down certainly impacted our plans.
We were rumoured to be in for Jordan James in August, but after Hackney fell through, so presumably the agreement with Leicester was too advanced by the time we made an approach. Certainly a good player. I suspect we'd have also needed to move someone on - like Taylor (viewed as things stood last summer). | | | |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:46 - Apr 9 with 1831 views | Mark |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:30 - Apr 9 by SuffolkPunchFC |
It was reported as an obligation, not an option, if promoted. |
Yes, obligations on Cajuste and Akpom totalling around £12m in fees if we get promoted I believe, plus their wage packages. Those two have been a huge disappointment. [Post edited 9 Apr 16:47]
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:51 - Apr 9 with 1769 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 15:35 - Apr 9 by positivity |
but more suited to a higher level? (only reading into phil's post rather than having heard the ful presser) |
I've said this so often. The Championship really does him no good, he's a need the technical play of the Premier League. If we go up, and we sign him, he'll be a key player for us. |  |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:53 - Apr 9 with 1747 views | positivity |
| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:26 - Apr 9 by RetroBlue |
I'd say this was a poor recruitment by the club. But we stitched ourselves up re Morsey and coukdnt get Hackney and were looking around for anyone really..
I'd also ask why the Club had kept Ashley Young as registered for 2nd half of the season when it was clear his " serious hip injury' and the age group he is, he'd be unlikely to participate much in games. Thus is not a judgement on his personally , just being realistic about his ditiation at this stage in his career.
I feel we should have de-registered him and thrn had space to bring in another player... |
couple of points:
we already had the space to bring in another player.
from his performances at brizzle, i'm glad we didn't retain morsy | |
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| Interesting from McKenna on Cajuste on 16:54 - Apr 9 with 1738 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
The comments that he is more suited to the prem that I see are so funny.
He might get a bit more room to half turn and run 15 yards but off the ball he is a complete non factor in that league, our midfield was an open door last season. |  |
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