| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? 16:50 - Apr 18 with 2969 views | Blue_Heath |
They are a bullet train hurtling towards the prem. |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:23 - Apr 18 with 727 views | Illinoisblue |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:08 - Apr 18 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah that’s what happens when you get an appointment terribly wrong in the summer then get it massively right. This is what a decent year 1 parachute team should be doing to a crap league. |
And we’re doing it too, albeit in a less exciting and less spectacular way. |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:25 - Apr 18 with 715 views | OldFart71 |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 16:57 - Apr 18 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Have you watched them today? Hard to say they deserved it given the performance over the entire game. |
Sadly it's not what you deserve it's what you get. They win regardless, we don't.
As I said after the Norwich game. No good beating the Budgies then losing against Pompey and that's exactly what we did.
At the end of the day whoever you play, whoever you beat it's still only three points and whoever you lose to it's NUL POINTS as they say on Eurovision. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:25 - Apr 18 with 720 views | Guthrum |
If they're foolish enough to give Ipswich a goal head start (as they have done in two of their last three games), Southampton will face a lot more trouble than they're bargaining for.
Since 1st September, in the League, of the 21 matches where Ipswich scored first, all but one of those were wins, the only exception being Millwall, with whom we drew. Over the whole season, we have never lost after scoring first (W20 D3 L0). |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:50 - Apr 18 with 617 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:25 - Apr 18 by OldFart71 |
Sadly it's not what you deserve it's what you get. They win regardless, we don't.
As I said after the Norwich game. No good beating the Budgies then losing against Pompey and that's exactly what we did.
At the end of the day whoever you play, whoever you beat it's still only three points and whoever you lose to it's NUL POINTS as they say on Eurovision. |
Don't disagree with that, of course. But suggesting that the Saints are unstoppable doesn't recognise that today's performance far from guaranteed the result they got. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 18:07 - Apr 18 with 567 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:08 - Apr 18 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yeah that’s what happens when you get an appointment terribly wrong in the summer then get it massively right. This is what a decent year 1 parachute team should be doing to a crap league. |
What precisely is your point?
Season:
Town PPG 1.829
Saints PPG 1.744
Since Eckert appointed
Town PPG 2.043
Saints PPG 2.040
Looks like two parachute payment teams very evenly matched, with Town having the edge. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 18:59 - Apr 18 with 494 views | Blue_Heath |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 18:07 - Apr 18 by SuffolkPunchFC |
What precisely is your point?
Season:
Town PPG 1.829
Saints PPG 1.744
Since Eckert appointed
Town PPG 2.043
Saints PPG 2.040
Looks like two parachute payment teams very evenly matched, with Town having the edge. |
What are the stats for last 15 games?
Key word and context - momentum. [Post edited 18 Apr 18:59]
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:29 - Apr 18 with 465 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 18:59 - Apr 18 by Blue_Heath |
What are the stats for last 15 games?
Key word and context - momentum. [Post edited 18 Apr 18:59]
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That, as you well know, was not what I was responding to.
But since you ask, if we take points at the same rate as the last 15 games, we finish on 84/85 points which in most likelihood gets 2nd. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:31 - Apr 18 with 459 views | Swansea_Blue |
Who’s surprised? |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:34 - Apr 18 with 453 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:25 - Apr 18 by OldFart71 |
Sadly it's not what you deserve it's what you get. They win regardless, we don't.
As I said after the Norwich game. No good beating the Budgies then losing against Pompey and that's exactly what we did.
At the end of the day whoever you play, whoever you beat it's still only three points and whoever you lose to it's NUL POINTS as they say on Eurovision. |
Yet we’re still ahead of them even though we’ve played two games less. You’d think we’re 5 points behind them the way some people are going on. | |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:35 - Apr 18 with 446 views | Vic |
it's been said before - if they win all their remaining games then they absolutely deserve to be promoted. 7 wins on the trot so far - would be absolutely ridiculous form to go on to win 10. Good on em if they do it. I doubt they will though.
If we draw or beat them (I really cant see us doing the latter) we will go up. |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:37 - Apr 18 with 440 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Yeah. This hasn’t happened. |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:39 - Apr 18 with 434 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:35 - Apr 18 by Vic |
it's been said before - if they win all their remaining games then they absolutely deserve to be promoted. 7 wins on the trot so far - would be absolutely ridiculous form to go on to win 10. Good on em if they do it. I doubt they will though.
If we draw or beat them (I really cant see us doing the latter) we will go up. |
We could lose to them and still go up even if they win all their remaining games. We’ve got a potential 6 points buffer over team that’s in our own hands. I’d rather have the point than the games in hand though. We got to be strong favourites from the position we’re in. Obviously we’ve still got to do it and not have too many more brainfarts. | |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:43 - Apr 18 with 436 views | TheBoyBlue |
We have to get the same points total in the next 5 games as we got in the last 5 games (which was a solid but not particularly spectacular run of results) and we're up, regardless of what anyone else does, end of.
That's not me saying we're definitely going to do it, it's just me saying that for all the anxiety about what others - especially Southampton - are doing, we have a perfectly achievable target in the next 5 games. | |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:45 - Apr 18 with 422 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 17:09 - Apr 18 by quad |
Agree. Not sure I would say fair play to them, but it would certainly be something beginning with 'f'  |
Oh when they got their equaliser there was a lot of other F's. | |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:46 - Apr 18 with 419 views | RadioOrwell |
Not surprised. Just disappointed. |  | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:54 - Apr 18 with 402 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:43 - Apr 18 by TheBoyBlue |
We have to get the same points total in the next 5 games as we got in the last 5 games (which was a solid but not particularly spectacular run of results) and we're up, regardless of what anyone else does, end of.
That's not me saying we're definitely going to do it, it's just me saying that for all the anxiety about what others - especially Southampton - are doing, we have a perfectly achievable target in the next 5 games. |
This is the key point many are missing. We’ve been very consistent for much of the season, and in particular since the transfer window closed. We’ve not had any spectacular runs, unlike Coventry and Middlesborough in the first half of the season, or Southampton for the second half. We’ve just kept at the level needed to be challenging for top 2.
There’s no certainty that we get 2nd, but if we continue at the same level of consistent points gained for the final 5 games, we will. Fair to say with only 5 games remaining, there’s little room for error. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:00 - Apr 18 with 377 views | mellowblue |
looking rather ominous for us, but things can change. Cannot lose at Southampton. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:04 - Apr 18 with 374 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:54 - Apr 18 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This is the key point many are missing. We’ve been very consistent for much of the season, and in particular since the transfer window closed. We’ve not had any spectacular runs, unlike Coventry and Middlesborough in the first half of the season, or Southampton for the second half. We’ve just kept at the level needed to be challenging for top 2.
There’s no certainty that we get 2nd, but if we continue at the same level of consistent points gained for the final 5 games, we will. Fair to say with only 5 games remaining, there’s little room for error. |
No one is missing it. Just some after tuesday are finding it hard to see us achieving it.
For me if we had 1 more home game In-between boro and qpr Id feel maybe a bit more positive. But the relentless of 7 games game in a month, many away games and it appears we have a strong starting 11 but when its rotated were not sure what town we are gonna get. |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:13 - Apr 18 with 365 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:04 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
No one is missing it. Just some after tuesday are finding it hard to see us achieving it.
For me if we had 1 more home game In-between boro and qpr Id feel maybe a bit more positive. But the relentless of 7 games game in a month, many away games and it appears we have a strong starting 11 but when its rotated were not sure what town we are gonna get. |
You might not be missing it, but it’s clear that others have, given some of the posts today. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:18 - Apr 18 with 355 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:13 - Apr 18 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You might not be missing it, but it’s clear that others have, given some of the posts today. |
Just natural tho. Every one is desperate for us to go back up. After the high of Norwich came a really bad pompy and that was one of the games in hand.
Had we won that or even drawn it today would feel a bit different I think to many. Its kist the way we went about tuesday is really difficult to budge. I do think a loss v nodge then a win v pompy would actually have made most quite relaxed still.
When we last got promoted. We struggled v those around us but bottom 10 sides home and away were our bread a butter. It hasnt been this season and we go into the finsl weeks playing 2 more of them away and 1 of them at home. With southamton thrown in.
As weve seen points wise this season since summer window closed has been fine. But its actually felt like a really difficult season. | |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:24 - Apr 18 with 349 views | NthQldITFC |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:13 - Apr 18 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You might not be missing it, but it’s clear that others have, given some of the posts today. |
I'm strongly of the opinion that there are number of fifth columnists present who seem to take great joy in popping up and trying to sow discontent at every suitable opportunity. Some are subtle, others not so much. Names which are rarely to be seen after a win. C'est la guerre. |  |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:34 - Apr 18 with 331 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:18 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Just natural tho. Every one is desperate for us to go back up. After the high of Norwich came a really bad pompy and that was one of the games in hand.
Had we won that or even drawn it today would feel a bit different I think to many. Its kist the way we went about tuesday is really difficult to budge. I do think a loss v nodge then a win v pompy would actually have made most quite relaxed still.
When we last got promoted. We struggled v those around us but bottom 10 sides home and away were our bread a butter. It hasnt been this season and we go into the finsl weeks playing 2 more of them away and 1 of them at home. With southamton thrown in.
As weve seen points wise this season since summer window closed has been fine. But its actually felt like a really difficult season. |
Is it natural to create narratives that just aren’t true though? That’s what some are doing - and then they just go very quiet when the errors in there suppositions are pointed out.
I was gutted on Tuesday after the game - a win would have put us in an immensely strong position, rather than introduce risk. I’m not a revisionist though, which is precisely what some are demonstrating with their posts. | | | |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 21:05 - Apr 18 with 301 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 20:24 - Apr 18 by NthQldITFC |
I'm strongly of the opinion that there are number of fifth columnists present who seem to take great joy in popping up and trying to sow discontent at every suitable opportunity. Some are subtle, others not so much. Names which are rarely to be seen after a win. C'est la guerre. |
Fifth columnists seems a good way of describing them. Otherwise I simply can't understand their motivation or what they want to achieve. | |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 00:10 - Apr 19 with 169 views | positivity |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:35 - Apr 18 by Vic |
it's been said before - if they win all their remaining games then they absolutely deserve to be promoted. 7 wins on the trot so far - would be absolutely ridiculous form to go on to win 10. Good on em if they do it. I doubt they will though.
If we draw or beat them (I really cant see us doing the latter) we will go up. |
they may need 13 consecutive wins to go up (unless both us and millwall slip up)! | |
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| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 07:26 - Apr 19 with 95 views | Blue_Heath |
| Why is everyone so surprised Saints winning? on 19:35 - Apr 18 by Vic |
it's been said before - if they win all their remaining games then they absolutely deserve to be promoted. 7 wins on the trot so far - would be absolutely ridiculous form to go on to win 10. Good on em if they do it. I doubt they will though.
If we draw or beat them (I really cant see us doing the latter) we will go up. |
8 wins in a row inc v Arsenal, that run will very likely be broken v Man City and then they will go again. However, should City win today maybe they may rest players in cup and go for league? | |
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