| The low block 10:26 - Apr 22 with 2821 views | portmanking |
Everything I'm reading is suggesting Nathan Jones is going to shove ten men behind the ball and attempt to sh1thouse the point they need. By the sounds of it, Conor Coady is going to be utilised as a holding midfielder (!)
We've got to be fast out of the blocks for this one. One thing that irritates the life out of me when we face low blocks is the speed with which we move the ball. We don't move it anywhere near fast enough. Two-touch football is the easy way to manipulate a low block (along with some serious aerial threat, which we sadly lack).
It could also be a night for set piece goals, so for god's sake please don't hit the first man lads.
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| The low block on 10:29 - Apr 22 with 2279 views | TripSwitch |
Good. Ipswich much better against teams that low block than teams who press intensely with aggression. Conor Coady playing as a holding midfielder would be good news as he is a god awful player these days and will be easily overrun |  |
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| The low block on 10:29 - Apr 22 with 2283 views | tractorboy1978 |
Or give a cheap set piece goal away...
You are right, we need to start fast and get at them. No trying to 'control' the game with the intention of winning it late on. We need to play with intensity from the off. It doesn't need to be the perfect goal either. Lets get some shots in early doors and get them rattled. | | | |
| The low block on 10:32 - Apr 22 with 2246 views | portmanking |
| The low block on 10:29 - Apr 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Or give a cheap set piece goal away...
You are right, we need to start fast and get at them. No trying to 'control' the game with the intention of winning it late on. We need to play with intensity from the off. It doesn't need to be the perfect goal either. Lets get some shots in early doors and get them rattled. |
Get a goal inside 15 minutes and calm the nerves. Why 'build' into a game and get to 35-40 minutes and realise that it's still 0-0? I can't for the life of me understand why we've favoured that approach against low blocks throughout the season. | | | |
| The low block on 10:35 - Apr 22 with 2197 views | BseaBlue |
Makes you wonder whether we will try and start both Clarke and Philogene then? Could we start one of them in the 10?
The more options we have of getting ahead early will mean they will have to come at us. |  | | |
| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 with 2178 views | Steve_M |
| The low block on 10:32 - Apr 22 by portmanking |
Get a goal inside 15 minutes and calm the nerves. Why 'build' into a game and get to 35-40 minutes and realise that it's still 0-0? I can't for the life of me understand why we've favoured that approach against low blocks throughout the season. |
And none of the losing intensity after 20 minutes that we do in too many away games that way. |  |
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| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 with 2165 views | TripSwitch |
| The low block on 10:32 - Apr 22 by portmanking |
Get a goal inside 15 minutes and calm the nerves. Why 'build' into a game and get to 35-40 minutes and realise that it's still 0-0? I can't for the life of me understand why we've favoured that approach against low blocks throughout the season. |
Not sure that's true? We've generally come out the blocks well and created some openings in the first 20 minutes before either fading or they get a goal on the break and then it becomes tough and attritional | |
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| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 with 2169 views | jayessess |
| The low block on 10:29 - Apr 22 by TripSwitch |
Good. Ipswich much better against teams that low block than teams who press intensely with aggression. Conor Coady playing as a holding midfielder would be good news as he is a god awful player these days and will be easily overrun |
Think one of our big issues this season is how inefficient we are when given space. We're far too slack when we get opportunities as the game stretches. Thought Millwall at home was the worst example, we must have had half a dozen or more runs at just their back four and made very few actual shooting opportunities. Wrote this about it at the time: https://bluemondaypodcast.word - |  |
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| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 with 2172 views | portmanking |
| The low block on 10:35 - Apr 22 by BseaBlue |
Makes you wonder whether we will try and start both Clarke and Philogene then? Could we start one of them in the 10?
The more options we have of getting ahead early will mean they will have to come at us. |
I'm *so* rooting for Philogene as the central 10. He can shoot from either foot, go either way, press high. It also gets Clarke on the pitch simultaneously. They could even interchange between the left and central 10 positions. In a game where we need goals, get your top scorers on the pitch from the outset. | | | |
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| The low block on 10:39 - Apr 22 with 2154 views | seblue78 |
| The low block on 10:35 - Apr 22 by BseaBlue |
Makes you wonder whether we will try and start both Clarke and Philogene then? Could we start one of them in the 10?
The more options we have of getting ahead early will mean they will have to come at us. |
Despite he reliance on his right foot, I've always thought Clarke has the look of someone who could play in the 10, more so than Jaden. He's quick on the break, good on the ball and has a definite eye for a pass and for goal. Not that it's the right time to try that now I hasten to add... | | | |
| The low block on 10:41 - Apr 22 with 2110 views | jayessess |
| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 by portmanking |
I'm *so* rooting for Philogene as the central 10. He can shoot from either foot, go either way, press high. It also gets Clarke on the pitch simultaneously. They could even interchange between the left and central 10 positions. In a game where we need goals, get your top scorers on the pitch from the outset. |
Think the only permutations we've seen of Jaden and Clarke together has been Jaden left and Clarke right, very occasionally Clarke left, Jaden Right, maybe Jaden left, Clarke centre one time?
Don't think we've seen Jaden in the middle at all, certainly not with Clarke on the left. | |
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| The low block on 10:43 - Apr 22 with 2069 views | TripSwitch |
| The low block on 10:39 - Apr 22 by seblue78 |
Despite he reliance on his right foot, I've always thought Clarke has the look of someone who could play in the 10, more so than Jaden. He's quick on the break, good on the ball and has a definite eye for a pass and for goal. Not that it's the right time to try that now I hasten to add... |
I can't see how he'd be more suited to the role than Mehmeti tbh Clarke generally requires too many touches on the ball | |
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| The low block on 10:44 - Apr 22 with 2064 views | portmanking |
| The low block on 10:41 - Apr 22 by jayessess |
Think the only permutations we've seen of Jaden and Clarke together has been Jaden left and Clarke right, very occasionally Clarke left, Jaden Right, maybe Jaden left, Clarke centre one time?
Don't think we've seen Jaden in the middle at all, certainly not with Clarke on the left. |
I know, but I can't for the life of me figure out why we've never tried it. Especially against low blocks when close control, dribbling, committing players etc. is the key to unpicking one. It's not as if Jaden couldn't physically handle himself there. If pint-sized Nunez and Mehmeti can play the role, why not Jaden? | | | |
| The low block on 10:45 - Apr 22 with 2046 views | BseaBlue |
| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 by portmanking |
I'm *so* rooting for Philogene as the central 10. He can shoot from either foot, go either way, press high. It also gets Clarke on the pitch simultaneously. They could even interchange between the left and central 10 positions. In a game where we need goals, get your top scorers on the pitch from the outset. |
Plus both of them can score from a distance, which is always an advantage against low block teams.
I know it sounded really simple but I kind of get where Frimmers is coming from when he said get our best players out there, try and kill the game off by half time and make changes to see the game out.
This is the Championship though and we all know what it is like at the best of times, let alone playing three huge games in a week. | | | |
| The low block on 10:45 - Apr 22 with 2043 views | tractorboy1978 |
| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 by portmanking |
I'm *so* rooting for Philogene as the central 10. He can shoot from either foot, go either way, press high. It also gets Clarke on the pitch simultaneously. They could even interchange between the left and central 10 positions. In a game where we need goals, get your top scorers on the pitch from the outset. |
Philogene has been seriously ineffective off the bench this season as well. He doesn't seem to ever really get going or up to the pace of the game. Clarke is far better off the bench but is our most reliable match winner for me so I'd want him on the pitch from the start too. In short, I agree I would get both on the pitch from the off. But how often has McKenna done that this season? I can't see him doing it now. | | | |
| The low block on 10:51 - Apr 22 with 1972 views | portmanking |
| The low block on 10:45 - Apr 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Philogene has been seriously ineffective off the bench this season as well. He doesn't seem to ever really get going or up to the pace of the game. Clarke is far better off the bench but is our most reliable match winner for me so I'd want him on the pitch from the start too. In short, I agree I would get both on the pitch from the off. But how often has McKenna done that this season? I can't see him doing it now. |
This is another important point. Jaden is much better from the outset. Get both on the pitch and the game won inside 60 minutes. Then you've got Mehmeti and Nunez that can come on and deputise. | | | |
| The low block on 11:06 - Apr 22 with 1846 views | TripSwitch |
| The low block on 10:44 - Apr 22 by portmanking |
I know, but I can't for the life of me figure out why we've never tried it. Especially against low blocks when close control, dribbling, committing players etc. is the key to unpicking one. It's not as if Jaden couldn't physically handle himself there. If pint-sized Nunez and Mehmeti can play the role, why not Jaden? |
Being pint sized and a low centre of gravity is useful as a number 10, makes it easier to control the ball under pressure and turn quickly as hips closer to the ground. I don't think Jaden would work at all as the 10 he doesn't have the speed of thought and 360 degree vision required to play there. He's a classic winger in all his attributes.
J Clarke is too one footed and needs too many touches to play as the 10, plus his ball control is not always reliable enough.
Nunez and Mehmeti will be fine! | |
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| The low block on 11:29 - Apr 22 with 1719 views | Garv |
| The low block on 10:45 - Apr 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Philogene has been seriously ineffective off the bench this season as well. He doesn't seem to ever really get going or up to the pace of the game. Clarke is far better off the bench but is our most reliable match winner for me so I'd want him on the pitch from the start too. In short, I agree I would get both on the pitch from the off. But how often has McKenna done that this season? I can't see him doing it now. |
Ineffective off the bench and ineffective away from home.
If people are talking about needing to move the ball quicker then Philogene probably isn't your man. He slows us down. |  |
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| The low block on 11:37 - Apr 22 with 1642 views | SaleAway |
| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 by jayessess |
Think one of our big issues this season is how inefficient we are when given space. We're far too slack when we get opportunities as the game stretches. Thought Millwall at home was the worst example, we must have had half a dozen or more runs at just their back four and made very few actual shooting opportunities. Wrote this about it at the time: https://bluemondaypodcast.word - |
yeah, definitely this. Was noticeable again against Boro. Was a pretty open game, and we had a lot of transition opportunities, which we spurned. Getting these back would immediately elevate this team another level. | |
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| The low block on 11:38 - Apr 22 with 1632 views | seblue78 |
| The low block on 10:43 - Apr 22 by TripSwitch |
I can't see how he'd be more suited to the role than Mehmeti tbh Clarke generally requires too many touches on the ball |
Not sure Mehmeti has done a huge amount there last few games. Who knows. The problem with assessing Clarke is he is very effective when coming on and the game is stretched. What he'd be like from the start against a low block is another thing altogether. I just think he has that pace to break the lines and he definitely has an eye for a pass. However, he's played most of the career cutting in from the left and there's obviously a reason for that. What we need most of all at the moment in the 10 is a fully fit and firing Nunez. | | | |
| The low block on 11:48 - Apr 22 with 1530 views | Herbivore |
| The low block on 10:37 - Apr 22 by jayessess |
Think one of our big issues this season is how inefficient we are when given space. We're far too slack when we get opportunities as the game stretches. Thought Millwall at home was the worst example, we must have had half a dozen or more runs at just their back four and made very few actual shooting opportunities. Wrote this about it at the time: https://bluemondaypodcast.word - |
Yep. Look at the way Boro worked their second goal when we lost the ball in a bad area and play was broken up and there was space. We aren't clinical enough in similar situations. We had one against Boro where we had three on two and Philogene was begging to be slipped in and we went the other way instead and didn't fashion a high quality chance out of it as a result. |  |
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| The low block on 12:19 - Apr 22 with 1396 views | Kievthegreat |
| The low block on 10:45 - Apr 22 by BseaBlue |
Plus both of them can score from a distance, which is always an advantage against low block teams.
I know it sounded really simple but I kind of get where Frimmers is coming from when he said get our best players out there, try and kill the game off by half time and make changes to see the game out.
This is the Championship though and we all know what it is like at the best of times, let alone playing three huge games in a week. |
It's not about the best players, but the best team.
As a counterpoint, against Pompey we needed to go attacking so we brought on Akpom and Mehmeti for our holding midfielders, Matusiwa and Neil. This didn't make us more attacking, it made us even less effective going forward .
Why would we expect trying to shoehorn in Clarke and Philogene, in places where one of them is going to be less effective, will make us a better team. The old adage of square pegs in square holes springs to mind. |  | | |
| The low block on 12:54 - Apr 22 with 1252 views | Vic |
Tempo, Tempo, Tempo
Please Town play with pace from the off tonight. |  |
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| The low block on 13:01 - Apr 22 with 1215 views | Len_Brennan |
| The low block on 11:06 - Apr 22 by TripSwitch |
Being pint sized and a low centre of gravity is useful as a number 10, makes it easier to control the ball under pressure and turn quickly as hips closer to the ground. I don't think Jaden would work at all as the 10 he doesn't have the speed of thought and 360 degree vision required to play there. He's a classic winger in all his attributes.
J Clarke is too one footed and needs too many touches to play as the 10, plus his ball control is not always reliable enough.
Nunez and Mehmeti will be fine! |
This is how I see it too. For all his ability, Philogene doesn't have the clever, short passing skill of Nunez or indeed Mehmeti, to thread a ball through a gap for the runner. I would see Clarke as better suited to playing in the middle, but his one-footedness would be more apparent.
The only other player I could have seen offering something in the central 10 role, was Cajuste; strong, quick feet, sharp turns in possession & clever lay offs would all help break down a low block, but his time has come & gone at this stage. | |
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| The low block on 13:15 - Apr 22 with 1127 views | TripSwitch |
| The low block on 13:01 - Apr 22 by Len_Brennan |
This is how I see it too. For all his ability, Philogene doesn't have the clever, short passing skill of Nunez or indeed Mehmeti, to thread a ball through a gap for the runner. I would see Clarke as better suited to playing in the middle, but his one-footedness would be more apparent.
The only other player I could have seen offering something in the central 10 role, was Cajuste; strong, quick feet, sharp turns in possession & clever lay offs would all help break down a low block, but his time has come & gone at this stage. |
Cajuste is a great, out of the box shout. Playing in the 10 would relieve him if defensive responsibility and mean he doesn't have to tackle and track back so much,plus if we were under the cosh he'd be effective at dropping back to make a 3 man midfield.
Id actually really like to see that. | |
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| The low block on 13:19 - Apr 22 with 1105 views | SuffolkSpezial |
If we're relying on goals from set pieces we are fecked. Our set piece coach is absolutely stealing a living | | | |
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