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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame 11:40 - May 4 with 6460 viewsMaySixth

it can play hideous trickson the brain

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:04 - May 4 with 860 viewsorfordbuoy

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:03 - May 4 by bartyg

You made the statement so the burden of proof is on you. You haven't interacted with my actual question, so I can only assume you don't have an answer.


Your question made no sense.
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:07 - May 4 with 833 viewsbartyg

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:04 - May 4 by orfordbuoy

Your question made no sense.


What progressive argument is there for defending Morsy not wearing the armband? There were many progressives in threads at the time defending it (according to you) so I'm sure it won't take you long to find one.

I'm afraid I wasn't active on the forum at the time so need you to enlighten me.

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:07 - May 4 with 833 viewsvapour_trail

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:03 - May 4 by orfordbuoy

Yes, it did.


No it didn’t.

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:09 - May 4 with 816 viewsorfordbuoy

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:07 - May 4 by vapour_trail

No it didn’t.


Wow! Silence when Morsy 'was behaving badly' . And now they come out of the woodwork.
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:11 - May 4 with 788 viewswitchdoctor

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 18:07 - May 4 by BanksterDebtSlave

Lol, so you really are 12...bless.


did you enjoy the game yesterday..?
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:12 - May 4 with 784 viewsorfordbuoy

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:07 - May 4 by bartyg

What progressive argument is there for defending Morsy not wearing the armband? There were many progressives in threads at the time defending it (according to you) so I'm sure it won't take you long to find one.

I'm afraid I wasn't active on the forum at the time so need you to enlighten me.


'I'm afraid I wasn't active on the forum at the time so need you to enlighten me.'

yeah, it shows. But at least you're honest.

Well, for starters, you don't need to look far.
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:17 - May 4 with 744 viewsvapour_trail

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:09 - May 4 by orfordbuoy

Wow! Silence when Morsy 'was behaving badly' . And now they come out of the woodwork.


I don’t know why you’re talking about stranger.

And unsure why you’ve put behaving badly in ‘’.

There has always been lots of noise on here around that subject. As you’d expect. It’s lefty bum fest after all. Perhaps you weren’t logged in at the time.

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:18 - May 4 with 726 viewsbartyg

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:12 - May 4 by orfordbuoy

'I'm afraid I wasn't active on the forum at the time so need you to enlighten me.'

yeah, it shows. But at least you're honest.

Well, for starters, you don't need to look far.


Still not engaging. A position famously respected by all.

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:24 - May 4 with 674 viewsorfordbuoy

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:18 - May 4 by bartyg

Still not engaging. A position famously respected by all.


so you find it difficult to believe that some 'progressives' on here are livid with Ashton, yet they gave Morsy a free pass, and even approval, regarding the arm-band, year after year?
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:26 - May 4 with 660 viewsGlasgowBlue

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 19:53 - May 4 by orfordbuoy

'Can you give an example of a progressive argument for defending Morsy's behaviour?'

Not an argument, but a little research would reveal, many users that defended 'Morsy's behaviour' or show, up-arrows for Morsy's behaviour and down-arrows against. And many stayed quiet. It happened for, at least, 3 years in a row and many progressives did exactly as I have already stated.

Do the research.

'I'm genuinely perplexed as to why you think any of us would, given advancing towards equality for LGBTQ+ rights is a key progressive policy.'

Does this make sense?

So not absurd. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.


That isn't correct. Most of the 'progressives' on here spoke out against Morsy's decision not to participate in the Rainbow Laces campaign.

My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason by chicoazul 2 Dec 2024 14:06
Now that the club has confirmed Morsy chose not to wear the armband, how do our LGBTQ fans feel about this?
Like I say I would continue the interesting conversation we were having but that thread is locked.


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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:28 - May 4 with 649 viewsorfordbuoy

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:26 - May 4 by GlasgowBlue

That isn't correct. Most of the 'progressives' on here spoke out against Morsy's decision not to participate in the Rainbow Laces campaign.

My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason by chicoazul 2 Dec 2024 14:06
Now that the club has confirmed Morsy chose not to wear the armband, how do our LGBTQ fans feel about this?
Like I say I would continue the interesting conversation we were having but that thread is locked.



for the billionth time - before the Prem.

edit: and how many really? It was certainly progress, I'll give you that.
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 21:12 - May 4 with 516 viewsbartyg

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:24 - May 4 by orfordbuoy

so you find it difficult to believe that some 'progressives' on here are livid with Ashton, yet they gave Morsy a free pass, and even approval, regarding the arm-band, year after year?


Beginning to question whether you're reading any of my posts at all.

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 21:19 - May 4 with 498 viewsRetroBlue

Anyone else think Mark Ashton looks like hes lost weight, is drawn and hagged looking?

I do wonder what is really going on behind the scenes at the Club now. Ashtin has been notable by his public absence a media muteness, since FarageGate!

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 21:59 - May 4 with 446 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 20:11 - May 4 by witchdoctor

did you enjoy the game yesterday..?


Probably not as much as the person using my seat, but yes thanks!

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 22:23 - May 4 with 403 viewsitfc48

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 21:19 - May 4 by RetroBlue

Anyone else think Mark Ashton looks like hes lost weight, is drawn and hagged looking?

I do wonder what is really going on behind the scenes at the Club now. Ashtin has been notable by his public absence a media muteness, since FarageGate!

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Probably on the Huel or Ozempic train.

He has done a lot for the club but does love to blow his own trumpet. I bet he sings Ashton and McKenna’s men rather than Dara’s name.
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 22:57 - May 4 with 314 viewsbackwaywhen

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 15:18 - May 4 by Whos_blue

Nothing to you.
Something to others.


But not many ….storm in a tea cup .
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 23:16 - May 4 with 274 viewsreusersfreekicks

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 13:27 - May 4 by Nutkins_Return

Well said.

I've moved on from the Reform absolute nonsense he put us and the club through but he's got to rebuild a reputation from scratch with me. It's difficult to knock the success he has brought us so I think you have to separate the things. He has my thanks for the hard work and success but he's spoilt it.

He really should have stayed out of the limelight for these celebrations and showed humility. It's just not his character.


Ashton is an egotistical self promoting hypocrite
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 23:27 - May 4 with 240 viewsTheMoralMajority

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 23:16 - May 4 by reusersfreekicks

Ashton is an egotistical self promoting hypocrite
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Not sure when Nutkins pee'd in your cornflakes

Ashton out

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 23:30 - May 4 with 224 viewsWhos_blue

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 22:57 - May 4 by backwaywhen

But not many ….storm in a tea cup .


I don't remember there being a count up, but do numbers really matter?
Can you, or others with your same view, not accept even for a moment that the whole shambolic incident has greatly troubled some people?
It's fine if you don't agree and think that Ashton has handled the whole episode with integrity, but what is so wrong with other fans of the club you support being troubled by it?
I'm trying hard to get beyond it, but it has changed the way I think about Ashton and his acceptance of Reform, No, not even acceptance. The grandstanding of Reform and then being caught in a lie about it, then a non apology is troubling for many people. The episode saw an almost instant increase in new posters here, emboldened by the seemingly warm support of Farage. Where did they all come from and why had they waited to make supportive comments about Farage and Reform their first posts? Because Aston enabled that. In the same way he enabled the defacement of the northstand goal posts with far right stickers.
This had never happened before, but is now seen as acceptable behaviour.
You may well support that behaviour. That's your choice, but to dismiss the impact of the whole sorry episode as a storm in a tea cup is at best disingenuous, at worst plainly myopic. Ashton's actions have changed things around here.

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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 00:33 - May 5 with 153 viewsLibero

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 17:44 - May 4 by tiptreeblue

I don't care (as I stated in my previous post) what anybodies sexual preferences are, it's up to them, what I find amazing is that people on both sides seem to believe they are correct and the others are w@nkers, which makes you as bad as each other, and the fact that you cannot even see that explains, the intelligence of each and every one of you sadly


Riiiiiiight, lol
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 02:50 - May 5 with 131 viewswitchdoctor

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 21:59 - May 4 by BanksterDebtSlave

Probably not as much as the person using my seat, but yes thanks!


good oh..👍
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Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 06:17 - May 5 with 44 viewsFreddy

Ashton lording it at the front of the bus - fame, fame, fatal fame on 12:07 - May 4 by GlasgowBlue

Did you see him singing the 'Delia' song on Saturday?


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" I love working at PR staff are so welcoming facilities are spot on and it’s 40 mins on the train for me 😉.just think he’s let himself and the club down she’s old enough to be his nan well done on promotion by the way well deserved 👍"

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"I'm hating that I have to agree with something you said.
Much as he likes and wants to think of himself as a fan just like us, there are times when the position he occupies demands a higher standard of behaviour, along with a modicum of respect for his opposite numbers."
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