| Ashton 12:22 - May 4 with 8656 views | PacittiJohn |
He doesn’t fit this club. Some great work by McKenna and the players over the past few weeks. Some humble interviews by all, but Ashton appears to have such a massive ego I fear he’s going to drag the club down. |  | | |  |
| Ashton on 00:20 - May 5 with 1211 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Ashton on 00:13 - May 5 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Indeed, A timely reminder that TWTD isn’t actually real life.
There will be some people that never forgive him and even some that don’t go but it will be a tiny fraction with thousands waiting to take their place. The joyous scenes on Saturday in front of a packed house tell their own story and the club now has a guarantee of at least three years with tens of millions of pounds being pumped through the coffers. And that’s a worse case scenario. The ownership group will be thrilled with the outcome of the season, as everyone is connected with ITFC.
With all the stuff that’s gone on between the clubs this year, the fact that even Norwich weren’t singing songs about it at the derby shows how much that it was soon forgotten and didn’t really stick in terms of being a story outside of Ipswich for more than a week.
I think he made some pretty big missteps during that week but the idea that the brand has been irreversibly damaged isn’t remotely true outside a few people’s imagination. We’re back in the big time now and that success will bring in more and talent and growth. [Post edited 5 May 0:14]
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People with ethics and moral compasses are such a bore aren't they?
Still we all look forward to the UK importing the great ICE style patriotism from the greatest country in the world |  | | |
| Ashton on 07:33 - May 5 with 1071 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Ashton on 23:50 - May 4 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Given their ages, Szmodics and Ogbene where never intended to be part of our player trading activity. Both would have been expected to sell for less than we bought them for.
Muric is pretty much break even if Sassuolo take their option and, if they don’t, we’ll likely make a profit on him. |
Exactly, we can’t see ALL signings through the lens of profit. Sunderland aren’t going to profit on Xhaka given his age, but he been one of the PL signings of the season. We need a mixture of younger players to develop, and experience old heads. Clearly we didn’t bring Szmodics in for resale given his age, and I don’t see £10m even being a big fee at PL level. | | | |
| Ashton on 08:06 - May 5 with 994 views | waveneyblue |
| Ashton on 00:13 - May 5 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Indeed, A timely reminder that TWTD isn’t actually real life.
There will be some people that never forgive him and even some that don’t go but it will be a tiny fraction with thousands waiting to take their place. The joyous scenes on Saturday in front of a packed house tell their own story and the club now has a guarantee of at least three years with tens of millions of pounds being pumped through the coffers. And that’s a worse case scenario. The ownership group will be thrilled with the outcome of the season, as everyone is connected with ITFC.
With all the stuff that’s gone on between the clubs this year, the fact that even Norwich weren’t singing songs about it at the derby shows how much that it was soon forgotten and didn’t really stick in terms of being a story outside of Ipswich for more than a week.
I think he made some pretty big missteps during that week but the idea that the brand has been irreversibly damaged isn’t remotely true outside a few people’s imagination. We’re back in the big time now and that success will bring in more and talent and growth. [Post edited 5 May 0:14]
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I know me and you have clashed before (sh1t, happens).
But this is absolutely spot on......
It will be pulled apart by those who cant differentiate between their own feelings and the facts, but you've worded it brilliantly. |  | | |
| Ashton on 08:36 - May 5 with 934 views | Leaky |
I guess most of the complaint's against the so called Faragegate will be down to individual's political stand point. If your anti Reform you would pulling your hair out. If your pro Reform or even not interested in politics you won't really care.
For me is Ashton doing a good job I would say 3 promotions in 4 years is great. Did we do well last time we were in the EPL no, however we had come up from league 1. I think next season we need to recruit well & try and survive, if not he may well be gone. |  | | |
| Ashton on 08:40 - May 5 with 921 views | hunty21 |
Give it a rest hes always been like that he set the platform for others to follow by his work ethic hes one the best CEO and tbh im bored of people thinking hes changed , I would argue it shows we are in safe hands and he has ambition and charisma | | | |
| Ashton on 08:55 - May 5 with 888 views | Leaky |
| Ashton on 18:20 - May 4 by Zx1988 |
I agree with all of your points there.
The issue for me is that this was not just one window in isolation - it's four in a row now. I sincerely hope that lessons have been learned, and that the additions to the recruitment team will be sufficient upgrades in order to solve the striker issue this summer. |
We did solve the striker situation, only problem we had he went to Chelsea | | | |
| Ashton on 09:25 - May 5 with 838 views | itfcjoe |
| Ashton on 14:15 - May 4 by Bellevue_Blue |
I agree with much of what you and the Second Tier guys said but this idea that we have not had a good return on investment for the last few transfer windows is a mad thing to say.
Last summer we had over £80M in player sales from 4 players who cost us £40M. If we sell Muric/ Szmodics this summer that is another £10/15M.
We've been promoted with the team who we signed for the original PL money which is another great return on investment.
Then there is the rolling ROI on the existing players and really the only two players who we wouldn't get more for selling now than we did when we bought them would be Egeli and McAteer.
Yes we could have spent better but for our outlay, I actually think we have had a pretty good return on investment. |
Yep, our job for recruitment was to build a squad to get promoted whilst adding ongoing value - it was done in three ways - loans with obligations or short term deals to not hamstring us if they fail (Akpom, Kipre, Cajuste, Young, Azon), experienced Champ performers/known quantiites for market prices (Nunez, Furlong, Mehmeti) and youngsters we hope will improve and grow value (Egeli, McAteer)
Not every deal has been a success, some will be short term deals that failed, some longer term deals that we hope haven't succeeded 'yet' but ultimately we are now a PL club again and recruitment has done it's job |  |
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| Ashton on 13:53 - May 5 with 707 views | braveblue |
Just leave it. Or go and support another team. | | | |
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| Ashton on 14:00 - May 5 with 685 views | KBsSocks |
| Ashton on 13:53 - May 5 by braveblue |
Just leave it. Or go and support another team. |
Bog off. |  |
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| Ashton on 15:06 - May 5 with 614 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| Ashton on 19:20 - May 4 by lazyblue |
Don’t be silly please , I’m not a Farage fan but why is this carrying as honestly only a few on here seem to want to moan about and the rest of fan never gave it a moment’s thought. |
I didn’t start the thread.
Maybe the rest of the fans should give it some thought.
Ashton is CEO and Chairman of a leading football club (as opposed to for example a closed private company) and should not have allowed the club to be used to actively promote a divisive political party headed by a controversial leader.
He initially lied about the circumstances in a statement that contained a spurious reference to inclusion but no contrition.
When he was forced to comment further his statement was not an apology acknowledging his error of judgment leading to an inappropriate event.
He was just sorry that ‘some’ of the fan base were offended together with some patronising nonsense about ‘his’ directors working to ensure that such matters are better handled in future.
Not acceptable behaviour from a CEO nor a conclusion to the incident in my opinion.
Has this affected the fanbase’s enjoyment of promotion? Of course not. Nor mine. | | | |
| I will NEVER let it go on 06:18 - May 6 with 474 views | ScottCandage |
| Ashton on 15:39 - May 4 by jas0999 |
People need to let this go now, or at the very least accept they are likely to be in the minority. Ashton is going nowhere.
Everyone agrees the Farage episode was wrong. But the reality is the majority of the fan base will move on and let it go or not feel strongly enough about it, least of all protest or give up their tickets. A minority might and I respect those folks opinion. |
My morals come before everything. |  | | |
| Ashton on 07:25 - May 6 with 410 views | noggin |
| Ashton on 13:53 - May 5 by braveblue |
Just leave it. Or go and support another team. |
When did you become the forum police? |  |
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| Ashton on 10:06 - May 6 with 329 views | darkhorse28 |
| Ashton on 09:25 - May 5 by itfcjoe |
Yep, our job for recruitment was to build a squad to get promoted whilst adding ongoing value - it was done in three ways - loans with obligations or short term deals to not hamstring us if they fail (Akpom, Kipre, Cajuste, Young, Azon), experienced Champ performers/known quantiites for market prices (Nunez, Furlong, Mehmeti) and youngsters we hope will improve and grow value (Egeli, McAteer)
Not every deal has been a success, some will be short term deals that failed, some longer term deals that we hope haven't succeeded 'yet' but ultimately we are now a PL club again and recruitment has done it's job |
It has 100%. It achieved its goal. Its main short term objective, and the finance it’s leveraged now is generational.
It’s a minimum five years of revenue including parachute money that could and should change our club forever.
There’s no escaping that’s a wonderful wonderful thing, and KM the players and staff, even the ones that haven’t been great value deserve huge credit.
But back to value. Because I won’t list them, but we wasted a huge amount of the initial £140 million, and subsequent gross £60 million too, we are very poor relative to the teams we now compete with.
If we get that right now. It’s growing pains.
If we use the same process (and our success is built on repetition and process) then it’s going to be a huge problem.
If we sign players for £7-20 million like we have, constantly, who aren’t close to PL levels, and want to compete with clubs that actually spend less, on world class talent, that looks PL ready from day one, then they clearly isn’t going to work.
And these aren’t legacy PL clubs, Sunderland did it in a window, Leeds too, and as for Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton, Jesus, Brighton made Hearts win a title they hasn’t happened in 45 years in about 4 seconds flat!!
That’s the level. It’s not a step from what we’ve been doing.
We used financial leverage to cover our ID issues. We managed to just about get enough to work in the EFL, and even that was a squeaky bum.
We’re talking a big difference in quality if recruitment. So over to the same people, and let’s hope the process is better, different.
Ashton referenced data recently. Then distanced himself before questions could be asked for detail, that didn’t fill me with confidence because it’s no coincidence Brighton and Brentford have execs and owners from data rich backgrounds and it’s not a desirable aspect of ID now, it’s essential.
They’ve recruited better than any clubs in world football. They sign £6 million pound players that are already £60 million players before a days coaching.
I don’t even think we look for that. McKenna loves coaching, it’s who he is. See Jack Clarke and the obsession over certain parts of his game.
If we look for players to coach and improve like Walle. Who cost a fortune but added little in the here and now (imagine we missed out by a point). Then we’ll struggle.
Let’s see though. McKenna is young, learning, I’m sure there’s a knowledge of how and where we failed, and how to put it right.
Exciting either way. What an opportunity, a young coach, untold riches. A nice set of problems to solve. | | | |
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