| I wait to see 09:36 - May 22 with 4443 views | cressi |
If our recruitment is better than last time. And also if McKenna has found a different way of playing against the better sides including three central defenders which he has done occasionally. Interesting few months ahead. |  | | |  |
| I wait to see on 09:47 - May 22 with 3099 views | BseaBlue |
Just to counter that slightly, although our last campaign wasn't great, we still finished the season with more points than both Burnley and Wolves currently have.
I'd argue that these two sides are considerably further ahead than us in terms of the amount of time they have spent in the top flight, but have found it equally as hard. I'm certain that we have a manager that adapts and learns and we will be better placed this time round, but its a bloody tough league!
Hopefully Leeds and Sunderland have shown us enough in what we need to do to stay up. |  | | |
| I wait to see on 09:52 - May 22 with 3076 views | SomethingBlue |
McKenna is a quick learner and our recruitment structure, not to mention the existing player base, is more suited to the level. Time will tell but at this point I think we will be a different animal. | |
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| I wait to see on 10:12 - May 22 with 2979 views | cressi |
| I wait to see on 09:47 - May 22 by BseaBlue |
Just to counter that slightly, although our last campaign wasn't great, we still finished the season with more points than both Burnley and Wolves currently have.
I'd argue that these two sides are considerably further ahead than us in terms of the amount of time they have spent in the top flight, but have found it equally as hard. I'm certain that we have a manager that adapts and learns and we will be better placed this time round, but its a bloody tough league!
Hopefully Leeds and Sunderland have shown us enough in what we need to do to stay up. |
More points than Burnley and Wolves Not yet . We finished on 22 Burnley have 21 and a game left wolves have 19 also a game left. But to be honest them and us were truly awful. One home win all season was horrendous. | | | |
| I wait to see on 10:26 - May 22 with 2864 views | algy |
| I wait to see on 10:12 - May 22 by cressi |
More points than Burnley and Wolves Not yet . We finished on 22 Burnley have 21 and a game left wolves have 19 also a game left. But to be honest them and us were truly awful. One home win all season was horrendous. |
In the 34 year history of the Premier League KM is the only manager to only win one home game in a full season. | |
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| I wait to see on 10:37 - May 22 with 2813 views | djgooder |
| I wait to see on 09:47 - May 22 by BseaBlue |
Just to counter that slightly, although our last campaign wasn't great, we still finished the season with more points than both Burnley and Wolves currently have.
I'd argue that these two sides are considerably further ahead than us in terms of the amount of time they have spent in the top flight, but have found it equally as hard. I'm certain that we have a manager that adapts and learns and we will be better placed this time round, but its a bloody tough league!
Hopefully Leeds and Sunderland have shown us enough in what we need to do to stay up. |
Also, was out recruitment that bad? Or was it the overly optimistic wishes of us fans? Did we recruit to stay up? Obviously hopefully, but really we planned for the season we just had, to bounce back. And we are bouncing back with a decent championship squad rather than a league one squad. So I think it did what was required. Even if us fans desperately hoped for more.
I hope we recruit well, it is always a bit of a gamble. But I’ve seen enough to be confident of decent players coming in based on past performance.
I hope at the minimum this time we are at least still in with a fight on the last day! |  | | |
| I wait to see on 10:45 - May 22 with 2764 views | RobTheMonk |
| I wait to see on 10:37 - May 22 by djgooder |
Also, was out recruitment that bad? Or was it the overly optimistic wishes of us fans? Did we recruit to stay up? Obviously hopefully, but really we planned for the season we just had, to bounce back. And we are bouncing back with a decent championship squad rather than a league one squad. So I think it did what was required. Even if us fans desperately hoped for more.
I hope we recruit well, it is always a bit of a gamble. But I’ve seen enough to be confident of decent players coming in based on past performance.
I hope at the minimum this time we are at least still in with a fight on the last day! |
There was no real inventiveness in the scouting. Other than Cajuste, it was Championship all stars, relegation picks, an on the-way-down Phillips (and to a lesser extent, Ben Johnson). |  | | |
| I wait to see on 10:46 - May 22 with 2755 views | BseaBlue |
| I wait to see on 10:26 - May 22 by algy |
In the 34 year history of the Premier League KM is the only manager to only win one home game in a full season. |
Since the Premier League was formed, only 5 teams have achieved back to back promotions from league one to the Prem. 3 of those sides were all relegated at the first time of asking.
The success rate of relegated teams bouncing back to the Prem at the first time of asking is just 27%!
In the last 5 years, the survival rate of promoted teams is just 33%.
Yeah stats can be used however you like and I am sure that we will be expecting to be better than we were at our last attempt but I was just making the point that the division is incredibly tough and only appears to be getting harder. | | | |
| I wait to see (n/t) on 10:49 - May 22 with 2730 views | lurcher |
Our recruitment was excellent, staying up was always an impossible task. As a side who had been promoted twice with a L1 squad we couldn't attract established premier league players. We did really well to get back at the first time of asking this past season and we will give it a really good go next season. [Post edited 22 May 10:53]
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| I wait to see on 10:51 - May 22 with 2711 views | algy |
| I wait to see on 10:37 - May 22 by djgooder |
Also, was out recruitment that bad? Or was it the overly optimistic wishes of us fans? Did we recruit to stay up? Obviously hopefully, but really we planned for the season we just had, to bounce back. And we are bouncing back with a decent championship squad rather than a league one squad. So I think it did what was required. Even if us fans desperately hoped for more.
I hope we recruit well, it is always a bit of a gamble. But I’ve seen enough to be confident of decent players coming in based on past performance.
I hope at the minimum this time we are at least still in with a fight on the last day! |
Recruiting last time to be ready to bounce back if/when relegated has paid off. I expect a similar policy this time. 3 promotions in 4 seasons as runners up has been so well received. 4 in 6 (maybe even as champions) and an open top bus ride in 2028. | |
| Never forget that on 7th. April 2021, for ITFC, the Game Changed. |
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| I wait to see on 11:01 - May 22 with 2639 views | algy |
| I wait to see on 10:46 - May 22 by BseaBlue |
Since the Premier League was formed, only 5 teams have achieved back to back promotions from league one to the Prem. 3 of those sides were all relegated at the first time of asking.
The success rate of relegated teams bouncing back to the Prem at the first time of asking is just 27%!
In the last 5 years, the survival rate of promoted teams is just 33%.
Yeah stats can be used however you like and I am sure that we will be expecting to be better than we were at our last attempt but I was just making the point that the division is incredibly tough and only appears to be getting harder. |
I expected it to be very tough in the Prem and didn't expect us to survive but KM even managed to lose at home to the only team that finished below us. Even Burnley and Spurs have one twice at home this season. One home win has only happened 4 times in 34 years but the other 3 used multiple managers. KM's record in the PL is unique. | |
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| I wait to see on 11:27 - May 22 with 2513 views | longtimefan |
| I wait to see on 11:01 - May 22 by algy |
I expected it to be very tough in the Prem and didn't expect us to survive but KM even managed to lose at home to the only team that finished below us. Even Burnley and Spurs have one twice at home this season. One home win has only happened 4 times in 34 years but the other 3 used multiple managers. KM's record in the PL is unique. |
Yeah, it was obviously KM's fault that we had a blatant penalty refused by ref and VAR against Leicester, which led directly to a red card and a subsequent 90th minute equaliser, having had to play the last 13 minutes with 10 men  | | | |
| I wait to see on 11:59 - May 22 with 2421 views | cressi |
| I wait to see on 10:45 - May 22 by RobTheMonk |
There was no real inventiveness in the scouting. Other than Cajuste, it was Championship all stars, relegation picks, an on the-way-down Phillips (and to a lesser extent, Ben Johnson). |
Cajuste wasn't even inventive, Brentford turned down to a dodgy knee then we come along. | | | |
| I wait to see on 12:02 - May 22 with 2409 views | algy |
| I wait to see on 11:27 - May 22 by longtimefan |
Yeah, it was obviously KM's fault that we had a blatant penalty refused by ref and VAR against Leicester, which led directly to a red card and a subsequent 90th minute equaliser, having had to play the last 13 minutes with 10 men |
Ref decisions go both ways, take Delap "winning" the penalty in the one home game that KM won. "How s*"* were Chelsea, we beat them at home" | |
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| I wait to see on 12:06 - May 22 with 2376 views | bartyg |
| I wait to see on 11:01 - May 22 by algy |
I expected it to be very tough in the Prem and didn't expect us to survive but KM even managed to lose at home to the only team that finished below us. Even Burnley and Spurs have one twice at home this season. One home win has only happened 4 times in 34 years but the other 3 used multiple managers. KM's record in the PL is unique. |
Yous must be fun at parties. |  |
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| I wait to see on 12:14 - May 22 with 2321 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I wait to see on 10:26 - May 22 by algy |
In the 34 year history of the Premier League KM is the only manager to only win one home game in a full season. |
Surprised you've not mentioned it before. |  |
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| I wait to see on 12:23 - May 22 with 2278 views | charlie1 |
The 25/26 season isn't even over and the knives are already out for 26/27.
What a very long summer we have ahead.... | | | |
| I wait to see on 12:28 - May 22 with 2251 views | algy |
| I wait to see on 12:14 - May 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Surprised you've not mentioned it before. |
Really? | |
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| I wait to see on 12:30 - May 22 with 2237 views | NedPlimpton |
| I wait to see on 10:26 - May 22 by algy |
In the 34 year history of the Premier League KM is the only manager to only win one home game in a full season. |
That can't be true. Derby only managed one win all season in their record low points season. Can't remember if that was home or away but either way it means your stat is incorrect |  | | |
| I wait to see on 12:31 - May 22 with 2226 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I wait to see on 12:28 - May 22 by algy |
Really? |
It's called irony, fella. You've banged on about little else for months and months, when you're not moaning about other stuff or downarrowing anyone vaguely positive.
We all know the stats. And we all know the context, that you always leave out, of back to back promotions from League 1 having a huge bearing on them. | |
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| I wait to see on 12:32 - May 22 with 2218 views | Radlett_blue |
| I wait to see on 11:59 - May 22 by cressi |
Cajuste wasn't even inventive, Brentford turned down to a dodgy knee then we come along. |
The problem is the same. Promoted clubs can't afford proven PL players so they have to gamble on either young players, players from overseas leagues or possibly over the hill players with PL experience or those with an injury history. Every individual signing carries a degree of risk, but we will certainly need to gamble more on overseas players this summer. Our recruitment last summer shows that overpaying for a bunch of Championship players was flawed, even if most of them have shown themselves to be very good Championship players this season. |  |
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| I wait to see on 12:33 - May 22 with 2204 views | Vic |
| I wait to see on 09:47 - May 22 by BseaBlue |
Just to counter that slightly, although our last campaign wasn't great, we still finished the season with more points than both Burnley and Wolves currently have.
I'd argue that these two sides are considerably further ahead than us in terms of the amount of time they have spent in the top flight, but have found it equally as hard. I'm certain that we have a manager that adapts and learns and we will be better placed this time round, but its a bloody tough league!
Hopefully Leeds and Sunderland have shown us enough in what we need to do to stay up. |
Re your first sentance - straws and clutching come to mind!
That Wolves and Burnley have been so rubbish is no consolation for us being rubbish last time we had a go in the big league. I really hope - and expect - us to make a better fist of it this time. |  |
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| I wait to see on 12:52 - May 22 with 2073 views | algy |
| I wait to see on 12:31 - May 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's called irony, fella. You've banged on about little else for months and months, when you're not moaning about other stuff or downarrowing anyone vaguely positive.
We all know the stats. And we all know the context, that you always leave out, of back to back promotions from League 1 having a huge bearing on them. |
And like all McKennaphiles you ignore the context of the relative wealth he has always had at his disposal from the owners, wealth that with the brief exception of Cook, no manager in our history has had the advantage of, rather they've had the disadvantage of the opposite and some have achieved great things. KM would never have come here if we didn't have wealth.
And anyone that looks at arrows is just weird. | |
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| I wait to see on 12:53 - May 22 with 2066 views | mellowblue |
I just hope they remember to find players with athletic ability i.e speed and strength which they admitted was a Premier requirement when we were relegated. Though they seem to have forgotten that lesson looking at the purchases of Jaden and Mehmeti. | | | |
| I wait to see on 13:09 - May 22 with 1984 views | waveneyblue |
| I wait to see on 10:51 - May 22 by algy |
Recruiting last time to be ready to bounce back if/when relegated has paid off. I expect a similar policy this time. 3 promotions in 4 seasons as runners up has been so well received. 4 in 6 (maybe even as champions) and an open top bus ride in 2028. |
Geniune question.
Why (assuming you actually do) support Ipswich?
You clearly get nothing from it, apart from the chance to be a tit on a message board. |  | | |
| I wait to see on 13:24 - May 22 with 1936 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| I wait to see on 12:52 - May 22 by algy |
And like all McKennaphiles you ignore the context of the relative wealth he has always had at his disposal from the owners, wealth that with the brief exception of Cook, no manager in our history has had the advantage of, rather they've had the disadvantage of the opposite and some have achieved great things. KM would never have come here if we didn't have wealth.
And anyone that looks at arrows is just weird. |
The one missing the context here is you.
The wealth needed to survive and even succeed in the PL is orders of magnitude higher than ever before, and the relative amount we have been able to spend in the PL over the years is dwarfed by almost all of the other clubs. | | | |
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