| Something doesn't feel right about this for me 22:39 - Jun 10 with 14185 views | ITFC_Essex |
I may get a few pelters for bringing this up, and maybe I am being a touch emotional, but something doesn’t feel right.
Ordinarily I would take the statement at face value, a break, family, and so on, but since Farage-gate I have a bitter taste in my mouth and feel I must ask questions of what is happening behind the scenes here. I don’t say this to bring division, but McKenna’s comments since Farage-gate have felt very distant, his statement upon promotion about the changes he had to almost fight here in terms of personnel (against his will) made this his hardest promotion and you just got a feeling, that there is/was something else.
He didn’t seem like he was staying, even then, even though I wanted to believe otherwise.
The club, in terms of communication doesn’t have a lot of credit left in the bank for me, things like telling us Brandon Williams and Omari having flu, seemed minor at the time, but since the nonsense with Farage, especially the lies afterward and the fake apology from Ashton, I just don’t have a good feeling about the man or trust what the club puts out. Some of the statements made by ex-players, we howled at like Wolfenden, or Broadheads family on socials, about their game time and departures. It just all doesn’t feel as straightforward as it might appear. Even the Sam S stuff going round seemed bizarre, utterly bizarre.
We have one man wielding all the power of a CEO and Chairman, a man that appears to be almost un sackable. You have a situation where clubs like Fulham are showing interest, and McKenna chooses to walk away, allegedly 2-weeks ago after promotion. Really? A manager very much looking upwards in his career, and a club, Ipswich, on paper, that we’re told is much better prepared than last time for the Premier League. After McKenna walking away before a ball is kicked, I am not so sure, in fact, I am very sceptical of the whole thing.
It seems, with the poor pool of managers available for us to attract, and a key element of our success in effect walking away, this wasn’t exactly an ideal time for a change. I also fear than many key players will be for the chopping block soon, and I don’t know if yet have the scope in terms of recruitment, to bed a new manager, new team and adjust to the Premier League in one swoop. I think this could all end very badly for us if we get it wrong, and Ashton will be the villain if it does.
Maybe I am wrong, but Ashton lost my trust and something doesn’t feel right about any of this. Especially given that we were told that McKenna had a big hand in the new facilities and so on. I feel there’s been a falling out, and I think at the centre of that was the nonsense with Nigel Farage.
[Post edited 10 Jun 22:39]
|  |
| |  |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:07 - Jun 10 with 1336 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:03 - Jun 10 by el_granjero |
I don't think it's all that deep, really. He's ambitious. If the right job had been available this summer, he'd have gone there. However, the right job isn't available, so he's leaving now while his stock is high to preserve his reputation for when something suitable does come up. Sticking around would be a risk. I'm sure he's also factored in the fact that it's the least bad time for him to quit from the club's pov. |
But equally, what does that tell you about McKenna's view of of our chances of staying up, being much better prepared and so on. Sort of says the club doesn't believe it either. If he's leaving us because he knows that we have hit a ceiling than that in itself is quite worrying, given he's probably the best young manager in the country, who could we possibly bring in to do a better job than he could? [Post edited 10 Jun 23:07]
| |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:09 - Jun 10 with 1315 views | vapour_trail |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:03 - Jun 10 by el_granjero |
I don't think it's all that deep, really. He's ambitious. If the right job had been available this summer, he'd have gone there. However, the right job isn't available, so he's leaving now while his stock is high to preserve his reputation for when something suitable does come up. Sticking around would be a risk. I'm sure he's also factored in the fact that it's the least bad time for him to quit from the club's pov. |
Exactly right. |  |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:09 - Jun 10 with 1314 views | tonybied |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:01 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Well, he hasn't just walked away.
It's a 12-month gardening leave, essentially. |
He's not in-post, if he's on gardening leave. He had the job, and chose not to carry on, doesn't matter if he's unable to take another job, he's walked from the job he had.
I just think it's extremely odd, and there is more than meets the eye here. I truly hope he, and his family, are physically/mentally well. I just can't shake the feeling something going on within the club has triggered this. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:09 - Jun 10 with 1314 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:05 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Because for me, if you've taken the time to think about something and go on and do it, you're at peace with that decision, that end of the video for me at least showed someone who really didn't want to walk away but had to. Why we won't know and don;t need to know. It may be for private reasons, i just don't sense it's a decision made because he 'wants' too |
So why go along with it? Are Ashton and Farage holding his family hostage? |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:10 - Jun 10 with 1309 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:03 - Jun 10 by el_granjero |
I don't think it's all that deep, really. He's ambitious. If the right job had been available this summer, he'd have gone there. However, the right job isn't available, so he's leaving now while his stock is high to preserve his reputation for when something suitable does come up. Sticking around would be a risk. I'm sure he's also factored in the fact that it's the least bad time for him to quit from the club's pov. |
We cant know for sure. But we really shouldnt make firm assertions about the "real reasons" based on innuendo and guesswork.
Reality is that the explanation given is entirely plausible and may well be absolutely right. Other factors feed in, but the pressure has clearly been weighing this season. He has looked tired and pressed throughout much of it. This guy is an obsessive. He goes home and watches 3 games, takes his notes, gets up and into the ground at 6am, and does it pretty much every day. Add travel, media storms, supporters whining. All takes its toll. Has millions in the bank now. Entirely conceivable that he has just run out of steam and recognised he needs some time. Or his family have said theyd like to see him sometimes before the kids are too old to be interested. Pretty good reason for a man with enough cash in the bank to take a pause, to do just that. |  |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:10 - Jun 10 with 1295 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:09 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
So why go along with it? Are Ashton and Farage holding his family hostage? |
Go along with what? the truth is he's a having a break from football, the why;s of that is what we don't and probably will never know, he doesn't need to share that in a video. |  |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:11 - Jun 10 with 1283 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:10 - Jun 10 by redrickstuhaart |
We cant know for sure. But we really shouldnt make firm assertions about the "real reasons" based on innuendo and guesswork.
Reality is that the explanation given is entirely plausible and may well be absolutely right. Other factors feed in, but the pressure has clearly been weighing this season. He has looked tired and pressed throughout much of it. This guy is an obsessive. He goes home and watches 3 games, takes his notes, gets up and into the ground at 6am, and does it pretty much every day. Add travel, media storms, supporters whining. All takes its toll. Has millions in the bank now. Entirely conceivable that he has just run out of steam and recognised he needs some time. Or his family have said theyd like to see him sometimes before the kids are too old to be interested. Pretty good reason for a man with enough cash in the bank to take a pause, to do just that. |
We have been told that before though, take it at face value, and it's turned out that we have been misled. There's no credit in that argument here any longer. | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:13 - Jun 10 with 1268 views | RobTheMonk |
KM has always come across as a great guy. I don't think he'll ever get that managerial high of getting Ipswich promoted the second time. It was a truly special season.
Getting promoted a second time is a perfect way to bow out, have a well deserved rest and spend some quality time with the family. |  | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:13 - Jun 10 with 1270 views | BelsteadCav |
I’ve seen some posts in my time
I’m shaking my head |  |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:14 - Jun 10 with 1250 views | portmanking |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:09 - Jun 10 by tonybied |
He's not in-post, if he's on gardening leave. He had the job, and chose not to carry on, doesn't matter if he's unable to take another job, he's walked from the job he had.
I just think it's extremely odd, and there is more than meets the eye here. I truly hope he, and his family, are physically/mentally well. I just can't shake the feeling something going on within the club has triggered this. |
Nope. It's effectively gardening leave. Def info. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:15 - Jun 10 with 1236 views | MattinLondon |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:01 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Well, he hasn't just walked away.
It's a 12-month gardening leave, essentially. |
Isn’t that standard practice? Employee wants to leave and their employer agrees to their request but on condition that no competitors gain advantage by employing them relatively soon after leaving. |  | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:15 - Jun 10 with 1223 views | Zx1988 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:09 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
So why go along with it? Are Ashton and Farage holding his family hostage? |
I think Frimmers means a different kind of forced.
Like when you really don't want to have the family dog put to sleep, but know it's the right thing to do.
Whatever has led to this decision, I get the feeling that McKenna would rather not leave, but knows that it's the right decision for whatever reason. | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:16 - Jun 10 with 1206 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:10 - Jun 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Go along with what? the truth is he's a having a break from football, the why;s of that is what we don't and probably will never know, he doesn't need to share that in a video. |
The implication you and others are making is that he is leaving because he needs a break from football as a result of things going on behind the scenes but he does not really want to go. If that’s the case why isn’t he calling it out, it’s not in his interests to keep quiet and hide it if he feels his position is untenable. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:16 - Jun 10 with 1194 views | Zx1988 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:14 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Nope. It's effectively gardening leave. Def info. |
Still drawing a salary, then?
Does that mean that EIEIEIO was actually on to something earlier? | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:16 - Jun 10 with 1187 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:43 - Jun 10 by BackToRussia |
I can see where you are coming from, and that's on Ashton for casting that doubt in people's minds. But I honestly don't think KM would leave for that reason. |
Well at least you didn't call him a tw@t. |  |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:17 - Jun 10 with 1168 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:44 - Jun 10 by SomethingBlue |
You're overthinking this one, it's McKenna choosing to go out in the loveliest way while also doing what is right for him and his young family. It hurts but that's all it is. |
And you know this because? | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:17 - Jun 10 with 1178 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:15 - Jun 10 by MattinLondon |
Isn’t that standard practice? Employee wants to leave and their employer agrees to their request but on condition that no competitors gain advantage by employing them relatively soon after leaving. |
Not really no. Thats not what gardening leave is. And most high end contracts will have some sort of non competition clause in them anyway. Football is rather different. | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:18 - Jun 10 with 1173 views | tonybied |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:14 - Jun 10 by portmanking |
Nope. It's effectively gardening leave. Def info. |
It doesn't matter what you call it, he is no longer our manager, so has walked away from the job! | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:18 - Jun 10 with 1165 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:16 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
The implication you and others are making is that he is leaving because he needs a break from football as a result of things going on behind the scenes but he does not really want to go. If that’s the case why isn’t he calling it out, it’s not in his interests to keep quiet and hide it if he feels his position is untenable. |
I haven't alluded to that, I made it clear that it could be anything, it doesn't have to be club related. | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:19 - Jun 10 with 1141 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:11 - Jun 10 by ITFC_Essex |
We have been told that before though, take it at face value, and it's turned out that we have been misled. There's no credit in that argument here any longer. |
We haven't been misled by KM as far as I am aware.
But even if we had, there is no proper basis to reach other conclusions, and the explanation given is entirely plausible. | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:19 - Jun 10 with 1135 views | Scuzzer |
Why can't people just stop niggling on about Farage.
Keiron leaving has NOTHING to do with that.
Just because some people have been upset about it doesnt mean that everyone has the same feelings. Just stop it. |  |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:20 - Jun 10 with 1116 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:48 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
You are obviously free to think what you want, but why would KM walk away and not make it clear that the reasons are what you have outlined, makes no sense and brings KMs integrity into question. |
You may have heard of gagging clauses! | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:21 - Jun 10 with 1105 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:19 - Jun 10 by Scuzzer |
Why can't people just stop niggling on about Farage.
Keiron leaving has NOTHING to do with that.
Just because some people have been upset about it doesnt mean that everyone has the same feelings. Just stop it. |
I strongly suspect that an obviously intelligent educated man like KM was upset about it. And it all feeds into the pressure and burnout, if thats what it is.
But it would be absurd to claim it was the main or key reason. No evidence for it. | |
| |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:23 - Jun 10 with 1072 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 22:58 - Jun 10 by bsw72 |
I was 39 when I was hospitalised after a breakdown. Been working in investment banking for over 15 years, successful, well paid, happily married. I was working over 60 hours per week, with a young family, was tired but kept pushing on.
Didn’t recognise the signs of exhaustion, ended up having a breakdown in the office, followed by several months off work and an extended period in therapy.
Why tell you this, how is it relevant? Because no one knows what is going on in other people’s lives, what pressure has done to them and how they are feeling mentally. None of my friends knew how close to the edge I was, I was and still am very good at presenting a strong public image while inside I am crumbling.
Several times last season I thought how exhausted KM looked, and then think about the pressure he has been under and the standards he has set.
I have no reason to doubt what he has said and done, he’s earned the right to take some time out and leave the club in a great position. |
This says it perfectly, and resonates with my own experiences.
If anyone doubts the drain on McKenna - I’m sure you’ve all been watching the videos of his time with us; compare how he looked when he signed for us vs how he looks today. His looks have aged far more than 4 1/2 years. | | | |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:25 - Jun 10 with 1035 views | bsw72 |
| Something doesn't feel right about this for me on 23:15 - Jun 10 by Zx1988 |
I think Frimmers means a different kind of forced.
Like when you really don't want to have the family dog put to sleep, but know it's the right thing to do.
Whatever has led to this decision, I get the feeling that McKenna would rather not leave, but knows that it's the right decision for whatever reason. |
But based on how KM has carried himself and spoken up in the past, choosing not to call out the underlying reasons unlikely is my point. I don’t see it as any more sinister than he feels now is the least worst time to take a break he feels he needs. Nothing to do with Farage or Ashton, he’s just made a tough decision, walking away from something you’ve built. | | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
