| OGS 20:19 - Jun 11 with 2134 views | andyblue231 |
What is it that people actually like about him as a manager for us? Is it the reflected glory of being Manchester United manager because he didn’t really get that because he was a good manager let’s be honest. He got it because of vibes.
There seems to have been quite a lot of revisionism over his job there. I remember distinctly he was regarded as a bit of a joke figure - surviving on a wing and a prayer and bits of magic from their best players. The finishes weren’t bad, but I don’t think anyone ever really felt like he was a proper manchester United manager.
He also stunk the place out at Cardiff city and was fired after being relegated.
Can’t see it myself. I think if he wasn’t a famous player, no one would look at that record and say yes get him in. [Post edited 11 Jun 20:21]
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| It's the perception that.... on 20:22 - Jun 11 with 1791 views | Bloots |
....it would be a "continuity appointment".
Maybe it would be, maybe it wouldn't. |  |
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| OGS on 20:25 - Jun 11 with 1758 views | Vic |
IIRC he got the United job because of a distinct up tick in form and results.
I’d have h8m here because he’s got a proven track record of high level management - which is what we need. |  |
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| OGS on 20:29 - Jun 11 with 1702 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| OGS on 20:25 - Jun 11 by Vic |
IIRC he got the United job because of a distinct up tick in form and results.
I’d have h8m here because he’s got a proven track record of high level management - which is what we need. |
14 wins in 19 matches as interim. |  |
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| OGS on 20:34 - Jun 11 with 1640 views | vapour_trail |
Because he’d sign Ronaldo? |  |
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| OGS on 20:35 - Jun 11 with 1632 views | DublinBlue84 |
The only problem is that a certain Kieran McKenna and Michael Carrick were doing the heavy lifting coaching as he is not a coach. | |
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| OGS on 20:36 - Jun 11 with 1635 views | andyblue231 |
Same as carrick. And RVN to an extent. It’s just Monopoly money for me. The ex player thing at United. They all get a bounce. I’m just not convinced he’s a genuinely good manager.
He got Cardiff relegated and was absolutely hapless. | | | |
| OGS on 20:36 - Jun 11 with 1623 views | WD19 |
It was a while ago an some have forgotten how popular and well thought of he was when he was interimming. |  | | |
| OGS on 20:37 - Jun 11 with 1609 views | Chris_ITFC |
It’s just vibes and he’s mates with Kieran. |  |
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| OGS on 20:38 - Jun 11 with 1594 views | Chris_ITFC |
| OGS on 20:37 - Jun 11 by Chris_ITFC |
It’s just vibes and he’s mates with Kieran. |
Coincidentally, also why he was a successful interim at United. | |
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| OGS on 20:43 - Jun 11 with 1503 views | Vic |
| OGS on 20:35 - Jun 11 by DublinBlue84 |
The only problem is that a certain Kieran McKenna and Michael Carrick were doing the heavy lifting coaching as he is not a coach. |
Yet he has a more than 50% win ratio in all his managerial positions apart from Cardiff. (Source - wiki) | |
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| OGS on 20:43 - Jun 11 with 1503 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| OGS on 20:35 - Jun 11 by DublinBlue84 |
The only problem is that a certain Kieran McKenna and Michael Carrick were doing the heavy lifting coaching as he is not a coach. |
Are they to blame when it dropped off? | |
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| OGS on 20:45 - Jun 11 with 1488 views | Vaughan8 |
| OGS on 20:25 - Jun 11 by Vic |
IIRC he got the United job because of a distinct up tick in form and results.
I’d have h8m here because he’s got a proven track record of high level management - which is what we need. |
I'm not sure that form translates into relegation battling teams though..........
And it was years ago. | | | |
| OGS on 20:50 - Jun 11 with 1439 views | Sarge |
His win record at every club except Cardiff is over 50%. Even at Cardiff he did win 3 PL games out of 17 which is a better ratio than we managed last time. Plus as others have said he already has a good relationship with McKenna which might minimise attrition and changes to the style. Man United fan I spoke to said Ole in charge was the last time they had any fun. | | | |
| OGS on 20:51 - Jun 11 with 1426 views | NthQldITFC |
| OGS on 20:36 - Jun 11 by WD19 |
It was a while ago an some have forgotten how popular and well thought of he was when he was interimming. |
People are usually popular when they're into rimming.
edit: oops, sorry, misunderstood my screen reader's accent again. [Post edited 11 Jun 20:51]
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| OGS on 20:52 - Jun 11 with 1397 views | muhrensleftfoot |
He ticks a few boxes for me. He comes across as an intelligent and articulate guy. Played and managed at the highest level. Popular with his players too. There’s an obvious connection with McKenna and some of Kieran’s staff.
Probably really wide of the mark and we’ll go with a relative unknown that’s not been mentioned here. |  | | |
| OGS on 21:06 - Jun 11 with 1273 views | ITFC_Essex |
He's a nice guy and a name they know. Did okay with Manure, but otherwise not been a great manager.
Frankly it's just people putting the Manure connection together, he's not likely to even be near our list is he? O'Neil and Edwards are the two (along with Carrick who's now a no) were always in line for the throne here.
As for those saying things like Frank, Potter, Ange, and co. No chance in hell. |  |
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| OGS on 21:22 - Jun 11 with 1158 views | itfctilidie |
Bizarre that there seems to be fans clamouring for him. Its purely because of the Man United link otherwise it wouldn't even be considered. He has done literally nothing to suggest he is capable of keeping a newly promoted side in the premier league. He may well know the back room team, good on him, but his football an style nothing like Mckenna.
Just a hunch, but i imagine any new manager brings his own back room team anyway. [Post edited 11 Jun 21:23]
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| OGS on 21:49 - Jun 11 with 974 views | Illinoisblue |
His son is a Town fan. |  |
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| OGS on 21:57 - Jun 11 with 915 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| OGS on 20:35 - Jun 11 by DublinBlue84 |
The only problem is that a certain Kieran McKenna and Michael Carrick were doing the heavy lifting coaching as he is not a coach. |
Does anyone know that? Would he not have coaches and a similar system here? I've no idea if I want him or not but how does his record get cut down because of coaches whereas others stand up on their own? Managers manage and get the plaudits or the criticism. |  | | |
| OGS on 22:12 - Jun 11 with 881 views | GavITFC |
While he wouldn’t be my first choice personally, I can really see the logic. It will be the only way we carry any continuity over into next season. I think he’d keep most of the back room staff after working with Pert and co before. We already have the turn over in players and manager to deal with, the last thing we need is to be changing all the back room staff too, so if bringing Ole in avoids that then it gets my vote |  |
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| OGS on 22:45 - Jun 11 with 735 views | itfctilidie |
| OGS on 22:12 - Jun 11 by GavITFC |
While he wouldn’t be my first choice personally, I can really see the logic. It will be the only way we carry any continuity over into next season. I think he’d keep most of the back room staff after working with Pert and co before. We already have the turn over in players and manager to deal with, the last thing we need is to be changing all the back room staff too, so if bringing Ole in avoids that then it gets my vote |
Personally I dont see continuity. We need at leat 8 new players and a new manager. We cannot get stuck in a loop of trying to find similar to Kieron - it aint happening, anything you get its going to be a poundland version.
New manager, new approach. Not saying they will tear up everything from the last 5 years but build on it, little tweaks etc. But the way forward for Ipswich Town is not to try and replicate McKenna in my opinion. | | | |
| OGS on 22:50 - Jun 11 with 680 views | darkhorse28 |
I think what a lot of people miss is the £400 million spent so badly, left a legacy that contributed massively to subsequent failures…, they couldn’t spend that much for a while when he left and Paul McShane and De Beek are not easy to build a team around.
It’s a reverse McKenna who inherited a squad where all the work in recruitment was done, for the level.
Ole inherited a very good squad.., and £400 million later left one significantly worse…, he’d be awful.
The risk of getting relegated with him, and knowing his record in the EFL is getting sacked with Cardiff looking relegation fodder - again, another club he left in far worse state than when he arrived.
I get a feeling he probably is a decent coach, but lacks management qualities - the opposite of what we need, but also get a feeling Ashton does want to control recruitment - so this could be the profile he wants. Shame if true.., but let’s see, lots of options. I hope we don’t get bogged down with previous contingencies, football moves quickly, we need to be flexible. | | | |
| OGS on 23:21 - Jun 11 with 602 views | GavITFC |
| OGS on 22:45 - Jun 11 by itfctilidie |
Personally I dont see continuity. We need at leat 8 new players and a new manager. We cannot get stuck in a loop of trying to find similar to Kieron - it aint happening, anything you get its going to be a poundland version.
New manager, new approach. Not saying they will tear up everything from the last 5 years but build on it, little tweaks etc. But the way forward for Ipswich Town is not to try and replicate McKenna in my opinion. |
That’s my point though, the fact we do need 8/10 new players means if there’s someone that could slot in and not have to change too much in the background then I can really see the logic behind it. Maybe you’re right and I’m looking at it through McKenna tinted glasses lol, like I said he personally wouldn’t be my first choice (Thomas Frank ftr) but I really can see the potential benefits of keeping as much familiarity as possible to the 10/15 players that will remain.
Rather than going for a big rebuild just before promotion I can see the club going with a one year plan, keep us up and if we get relegated then doing the big rebuild and new project next year would make more sense to me | |
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| OGS on 23:24 - Jun 11 with 593 views | GavITFC |
| OGS on 22:50 - Jun 11 by darkhorse28 |
I think what a lot of people miss is the £400 million spent so badly, left a legacy that contributed massively to subsequent failures…, they couldn’t spend that much for a while when he left and Paul McShane and De Beek are not easy to build a team around.
It’s a reverse McKenna who inherited a squad where all the work in recruitment was done, for the level.
Ole inherited a very good squad.., and £400 million later left one significantly worse…, he’d be awful.
The risk of getting relegated with him, and knowing his record in the EFL is getting sacked with Cardiff looking relegation fodder - again, another club he left in far worse state than when he arrived.
I get a feeling he probably is a decent coach, but lacks management qualities - the opposite of what we need, but also get a feeling Ashton does want to control recruitment - so this could be the profile he wants. Shame if true.., but let’s see, lots of options. I hope we don’t get bogged down with previous contingencies, football moves quickly, we need to be flexible. |
Oh god yeah I’m not suggesting for one second about keeping Ole if we find ourselves back in the championship next season. I don’t think he’s the new project guy he’s just the substitute teacher till we see where we’re at next season | |
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| OGS on 23:24 - Jun 11 with 593 views | Nutkins_Return |
You talk about revisionism but I think your post is more guilty of that. He spent several years.managing the United reserves successfully (as a coach which you say he's not). He didn't simply go into management because he had the name. He earny his stripes.
He then went and managed Molde in Norway who had never won a league in their history and won the league back to back and then the cup the year after.
Yes his stint at Cardiff didn't work out but he hardly stuck the place out with 30% win ratio and Cardiff were hardly a top team in the prem.
He did a good job with United when you see them before and after him over the last 15 years or so.
His credentials are really good if you took his name off. His win ratio stats are excellent. He's won leagues and managed United to a major European final where they just missed out. Their aren't many better qualified managers out their for us forgetting his name.
But we have the added bonus he knows all about us, has been to see us multiple times and I'm sure behind the scenes with McKenna. Knows a lot of the staff. Would get the works in terms of a download from McKenna.
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