| Wages would be an issue, but....... 06:09 - Jun 25 with 4249 views | MK1 |
Arsenal have lowered their asking price to between £20m and £25m for 29 year old Brazil striker Gabriel Jesus.
No chance I guess? |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 06:12 - Jun 25 with 4183 views | Blue_Heath |
Plays about 5 games a season, not what we need. |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 07:21 - Jun 25 with 3871 views | homer_123 |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 06:12 - Jun 25 by Blue_Heath |
Plays about 5 games a season, not what we need. |
Can I bring to the attention of Sir the case of Calvert-Lewin of Leeds. |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 07:29 - Jun 25 with 3798 views | BlueBoots |
If we're shopping at Arsenal, I'd be looking at Norgaard instead |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 07:40 - Jun 25 with 3733 views | Churchman |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 07:21 - Jun 25 by homer_123 |
Can I bring to the attention of Sir the case of Calvert-Lewin of Leeds. |
Can I bring to your attention the case of Kalvin Phillips. More or less the same age, brought in as a key component of our midfield, a marquee signing, to use that appalling phrase.
He turned out to be a key component of us having no midfield whatsoever. Washed up, career sliding away. I don’t know what giving him a rest home that season cost, but if it was less than £5m I’d be very surprised.
I see the same with Gabriel Jesus. Formerly a top player, isn’t now. Injury prone, appearances diminishing, not more than a 1 goal in 4 or 5 appearances for Arsenal. A hasbeen and a very expensive one.
I can see why Arsenal want to unload him. They paid £45m for him and want some of their dough back. Bit like Chelsea did with one leg goal machine Broja.
A big no from me. |  | | |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 08:50 - Jun 25 with 3327 views | homer_123 |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 07:40 - Jun 25 by Churchman |
Can I bring to your attention the case of Kalvin Phillips. More or less the same age, brought in as a key component of our midfield, a marquee signing, to use that appalling phrase.
He turned out to be a key component of us having no midfield whatsoever. Washed up, career sliding away. I don’t know what giving him a rest home that season cost, but if it was less than £5m I’d be very surprised.
I see the same with Gabriel Jesus. Formerly a top player, isn’t now. Injury prone, appearances diminishing, not more than a 1 goal in 4 or 5 appearances for Arsenal. A hasbeen and a very expensive one.
I can see why Arsenal want to unload him. They paid £45m for him and want some of their dough back. Bit like Chelsea did with one leg goal machine Broja.
A big no from me. |
My point being that - to get to the next level - we 'have' to be signing some quality players. I don't think anyone would argue that Jesus and Calvert-Lewin are both quality Prem players.
Both have had significant issues with injury and game time. But these are calculated risks you take.
Phillips was a completely different situation - a player devoid of confidence, utterly demoralised from his time at City. I'd go further and say it's now clear that, for whatever reason, he was only really quality with Bielsa. Not in the same league of Jesus and Calvery-Lewin in terms of quality. | |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 09:03 - Jun 25 with 3173 views | TheGentlemanViking |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 08:50 - Jun 25 by homer_123 |
My point being that - to get to the next level - we 'have' to be signing some quality players. I don't think anyone would argue that Jesus and Calvert-Lewin are both quality Prem players.
Both have had significant issues with injury and game time. But these are calculated risks you take.
Phillips was a completely different situation - a player devoid of confidence, utterly demoralised from his time at City. I'd go further and say it's now clear that, for whatever reason, he was only really quality with Bielsa. Not in the same league of Jesus and Calvery-Lewin in terms of quality. |
Our recruitment definitely needs to take a serious step up, and players with PL experience I think will be really important.
Gabriel Jesus is undoubtedly a fantastic talent, he has 5 PL titles and 60+ Brazil caps, but he is on huge wages, injury prone, not a natural goalscorer, and is very much a "luxury" player, the kind of player you sign when you've consolidated your place in the PL, not one you sign in the hope they keep you up. I'm sure he'll have decent PL offers, but I would imagine he'll be off to either Italy or back to Brazil, the kind of league where he can be a bit lightweight but ping nice balls around at a slower pace.
That said, I'd take him in a heartbeat but not as our first choice striker. |  | | |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 09:11 - Jun 25 with 3070 views | Churchman |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 08:50 - Jun 25 by homer_123 |
My point being that - to get to the next level - we 'have' to be signing some quality players. I don't think anyone would argue that Jesus and Calvert-Lewin are both quality Prem players.
Both have had significant issues with injury and game time. But these are calculated risks you take.
Phillips was a completely different situation - a player devoid of confidence, utterly demoralised from his time at City. I'd go further and say it's now clear that, for whatever reason, he was only really quality with Bielsa. Not in the same league of Jesus and Calvery-Lewin in terms of quality. |
I think it’s exactly the same situation. For a period of time, Phillips was a top player, regardless of Bielsa. 31 appearances, he was effective for England too. For whatever reason, his career has gone down the pan. We took a player with problems on the way down and got a kick in the nuts for it.
Sometimes taking on a yesterday’s gravy merchant works. Look at Xhaka and Brobbey at Sunderland. Terrific signings. You just have to be very very careful who you go for and I would not chance a lot of money like Arsenal are after on an injury prone hasbeen like Jesus. | | | |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 09:13 - Jun 25 with 3059 views | bsw72 |
I think the biggest challenge is not so much financial but how you persuade more established PL quality players to come to a town like Ipswich to more than likely face a relegation battle.
However what has reassured me is that we have been able to unearth a gem like Matusiwa from overseas recently, so hopefully 2-3 other such funds would really help.
Not sure we would be able to land castoffs from top 6 sides - more likely to go to the likes of a mid table side, probably with Euro football vs a newly promoted team under new management. |  | | |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 09:20 - Jun 25 with 2977 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Nwaneri |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 11:33 - Jun 25 with 2514 views | rickw |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 09:20 - Jun 25 by Wallingford_Boy |
Nwaneri |
I think Jesus's ego will prevent him from coming here more than anything else, he'll see himself as a title challenging player, not a relegation battling player
But I agree Nwaneri is the sort of signing we should be after - someone with talent and a point to prove who plays in 2 positions we could do with strengthening (RW and AM) |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 11:36 - Jun 25 with 2499 views | hype313 |
Wages would certainly be an issue, He's on £225K a week with another year left.
No chance, especially with his injury record. |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 19:33 - Jun 25 with 1894 views | armchaircritic59 |
If he was always fit yes, but if he had have been throughout his career so far, I think you'll find the asking price would have been far greater, that's if Arsenal would have wanted him to go anyway as I suspect his record there would read rather more favourably than it does now. |  | | |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 22:02 - Jun 25 with 1594 views | Vaughan8 |
No chance just due to the fee and his wages.
I'm surprised he's worth that much to be honest. | | | |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 06:33 - Jun 26 with 1260 views | MK1 |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 07:29 - Jun 25 by BlueBoots |
If we're shopping at Arsenal, I'd be looking at Norgaard instead |
I suggested Norgaard about a month ago. Perfect for our midfield. | |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 06:35 - Jun 26 with 1258 views | MK1 |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 11:36 - Jun 25 by hype313 |
Wages would certainly be an issue, He's on £225K a week with another year left.
No chance, especially with his injury record. |
£225K ???? I had no idea he was on that. | |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 10:12 - Jun 26 with 1037 views | Blue_Heath |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 07:21 - Jun 25 by homer_123 |
Can I bring to the attention of Sir the case of Calvert-Lewin of Leeds. |
Fair point but still a big gamble. | |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 10:17 - Jun 26 with 1026 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Is that mental transfer suggestions starting 11 thread still going ? |  |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 10:22 - Jun 26 with 990 views | hype313 |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 06:35 - Jun 26 by MK1 |
£225K ???? I had no idea he was on that. |
It's the historic City issue, they brought him in on big bucks and Arsenal had to offer huge money to entice him.
He's earned a colossal amount of money for the relatively low output he's given. | |
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| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 11:20 - Jun 26 with 864 views | itfcsuth |
Not a chance, ridiculous wages, always seems to be in the treatment room more than the pitch. Talented player obviously, but not in our market of shopping.
We'll be looking more at the Delap, Etta Eyong, Wilson Isidor |  | | |
| Wages would be an issue, but....... on 13:25 - Jun 26 with 684 views | Wright1 |
It is irrelevant because he would never choose to come here... but it is mental there are so seemingly so many people against this. If you can get Gabriel Jesus, you absolutely do it. | | | |
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