| Initial analysis of the current heatwave 08:06 - Jun 26 with 17464 views | StokieBlue |
Scientists have said that the current heatwave stretching across Europe would have been impossible in June without climate change and is also hitting hard as the weather is more humid than normal.
"As recently as 2003, a heatwave like the current one in Europe would have been 2C cooler due to the lower level of global heating at the time. In 1976, another famous heatwave year, it would have been 3.5C cooler."
"The sweltering night-time temperatures currently harming people’s sleep are about 100 times more likely today than in 2003."
https://www.theguardian.com/en
SB |  |
| Avatar - M101 - Pinwheel Galaxy |
| |  |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 08:59 - Jun 29 with 1435 views | Bogblue |
What an unpleasant thread this has turned into |  | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 09:23 - Jun 29 with 1374 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 08:00 - Jun 29 by StokieBlue |
"It’s kind of sweet that I’ve been living rent free in your head, despite not posting for several days but I disagree with your accusations of hypocrisy.
If I was a poster who started multiple threads on climate change and then didn’t make individual choices in my life that would reduce my carbon footprint then you’d have a point. But I don’t. To my knowledge I have never started a thread on the subject.
I wasn’t “aggressively laying into people about their emissions”. NthQldITFC
is a poster I like and respect. For the past couple of years I’ve been trying to nudge him into a meat free diet as I know he is passionate about the subject of climate change and as a former carnivore myself, I think he would find it an easy choice to make. Also, the language I used, “eating the flesh of dead animals” was meant to be hyperbolic and slightly tongue in cheek. I have eaten “the flesh of dead animals” for all but three years that I have been on this earth. I had plenty of opportunities to go meat free before then, especially as my wife has been meat free for twice the time I have, and the numerous conversations I’ve had on here regarding the subject with dedicated vegans like Herbivore and eireblue, both of whom can put both the moral and health related case for a meat free diet far more eloquently than I could."
The initial post was made on the same day along with others who pointed out the hypocrisy, no surprise that you ignore those posters and jump straight onto my response though.
NthQldITFC did agree that he should eat less meat but he also agreed "ten times over," with my reply to you around the aggressiveness of your responses and also the emissions you make that you decide to ignore. Perhaps you don't realise how aggressively you came across. A number of other posters also pointed out how aggressive you were but I guess we are all wrong.
"To my knowledge, NthQldITFC has never taken offence at my replies to him. If he has, but remained silent, then I apologise to him. But I believe your condemnation of me on this thread, and worryingly every thread I voice an opinion on, is less to do with NthQldITFC’s feelings and more to do with this unhealthy obsession you seem to have developed towards me and certain other posters recently. When you gunning for somebody you are all over their threads like a rash."
An incredibly thing to say given you and your comrades literally bullied me off the forum not that long ago and you've done it to plenty of other posters as well. People have seen through you, the amount of push back you get from a number of posters should tell you something is off with your posting. You carry on pointing the finger at others though. Only one of us has been banned and you're lucky not to have been banned numerous other times in my opinion. Still, it's always everyone else.
"Recently you were arguing the toss on here with somebody up until 1am in the morning, and then just 5 hours later you were back to it. None of my business, but arguing, getting 5 hours or less sleep then going at it again, that can’t be a healthy way for anyone to spend their time on a football message board."
Thanks for your medical expertise, perhaps I couldn't sleep that night (struggling to see what this has to do with my posts on emissions). You spend virtually all day on here arguing usually but I wouldn't presume to tell you that was bad for you, it's up to you what you do. Fairly insulting to question someone health but right on point for you. Judgemental to those you don't like, turn a blind eye to the nasty posting of those you do.
"You have set yourself up as the moral arbiter of TWTD. You suck the joy out of every thread you join. No jokes or humour allowed. No options other than those from your over inflated ego are tolerated.
Ah, here we go, the groovy gang narrative. It's total nonsense but you carry on. Some of us don't want to live in the 1990's reading pretty horrible jokes. Maybe if you posted something funny then that would be a start. As for "moral arbiter" that's incredible, you spend all your time saying what is and isn't acceptable on here and accusing people of some pretty horrible stuff. It's been awful for a while now.
"If I fly to Australia to see my daughter it’s none of your damned business and I owe you no explanation. It’s a personal family matter, arranged at very short notice, and like any father I will put the interests and well being of my children before the opinions of a soulless and humourless pompous prig."
Once again, a number of posters have taken issue with the fact you were telling people what to do and whilst having very large emissions of your own (Dolly originally pointed this out but you've not gone after him - another poster you've repeatedly attacked on this forum). The fact you can't see how your posts come across is on you. Nobody said you couldn't go, in fact I said you can do what you like but it doesn't change the fact you were aggressively laying into people about emissions then literally 12 hours later were flying long haul. Are people not allowed to point out these things nowadays? If you don't want people to point them out then perhaps don't aggressively go after other posters about these subjects with a hollier-than-thou attitude.
"soulless and humourless pompous prig" - you're never insulting though..... you don't even know me but you carry on. I wasn't once personal or attack you in such a way in my posts. I just pointed out the inconsistencies.
"I would normally end with “enjoy your day” . But you seem incapable of doing so unless you are patrolling the numerous threads on TWTD and trying to start arguments."
More b*llocks narrative but I can rise above it. Enjoy your time in Aus.
I won't be replying to you anymore on the forum unless you call me out because I bored of your games, flexible moral stances and the false narratives you create around other posters which are then used to target them.
SB |
Glassers can't see what I post as he has me on ignore again (although seems to comment on what I might be posting, which is a neat trick). He did this after a rather mild post disagreeing with him, and then has acted like I'm the bad guy ever since. Like the Trump/Farage playbook of creating an enemy.
The irony (or maybe it isn't irony) is that his last ban was for a long tirade against me that brought up stuff from years ago (although it was so ridiculous I laughed it off and Phil took it upon himself to give him a rest). As I say, that post brought up years old spats, then recently he bemoaned me resurrecting a post from a week earlier (despite having me on ignore). So hypocrisy seems to be one of his themes.
Again here he's tried to create an enemy. You obviously weren't attacking him for visiting his daughter but rather the hypocrisy of aggressively moralising on people's life choices that create CO₂ whilst taking several long haul trips (and driving across America).
He's gone downhill as a poster, so I hope everything's alright with him. Not that he'll be able to see this. And also, we all have issues going on in our lives, it's no excuse really. |  |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 13:26 - Jun 29 with 1208 views | hype313 |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 09:23 - Jun 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Glassers can't see what I post as he has me on ignore again (although seems to comment on what I might be posting, which is a neat trick). He did this after a rather mild post disagreeing with him, and then has acted like I'm the bad guy ever since. Like the Trump/Farage playbook of creating an enemy.
The irony (or maybe it isn't irony) is that his last ban was for a long tirade against me that brought up stuff from years ago (although it was so ridiculous I laughed it off and Phil took it upon himself to give him a rest). As I say, that post brought up years old spats, then recently he bemoaned me resurrecting a post from a week earlier (despite having me on ignore). So hypocrisy seems to be one of his themes.
Again here he's tried to create an enemy. You obviously weren't attacking him for visiting his daughter but rather the hypocrisy of aggressively moralising on people's life choices that create CO₂ whilst taking several long haul trips (and driving across America).
He's gone downhill as a poster, so I hope everything's alright with him. Not that he'll be able to see this. And also, we all have issues going on in our lives, it's no excuse really. |
I don't mind Glassers on the whole, but he has made himself look like a right berk on this thread.
Like an Ex Smoker he's gone two footed into us meat eaters, yet can't see the hypocrisy of his statements by his actions.
I can't stand militant Vegans, I'm not overly tolerable of religious folk trying to ram things down my throat.
Educate by all means, and I think most meat eaters accept that reducing consumption is favorable to the planet and I'm certainly mindful of my shopping habits, but I don't need comments like 'The flesh of dead animals' rammed at me thank you very much.
I don't go into the fact that I've never met a vegan without a cold, each to their own. |  |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 15:50 - Jun 29 with 1093 views | waveneyblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 08:59 - Jun 29 by Bogblue |
What an unpleasant thread this has turned into |
Shocker..... same old, same old.
Threads are fine as long as we all agree with a certain few, the trouble starts if/when we dont |  | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:05 - Jun 29 with 1060 views | waveneyblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 08:01 - Jun 29 by StokieBlue |
Whilst that is once again nonsense, I would rather be that than the racist-in-chief of the forum.
I can't believe GB has allowed you to latch onto him in the way he has, it shows how flexible his moral superiority really has become. You're doing him absolutely no favours by giving him your support.
Anyway, you're another one I'll be ignoring from now on. How on earth Phil thought it was a good decision to allow you to return I'll never know. So many posts you make are a stain on the forum.
I'll leave others to challenge them going forward.
SB [Post edited 29 Jun 8:18]
|
This is unpleasant on so many levels.
For one so self rightious, you can be really vile.
But you seem to constantly get away with it... | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:07 - Jun 29 with 1068 views | MattinLondon |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 15:50 - Jun 29 by waveneyblue |
Shocker..... same old, same old.
Threads are fine as long as we all agree with a certain few, the trouble starts if/when we dont |
You’re being very disingenuous in relation to this thread as there has been sniping from all sides. |  | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:11 - Jun 29 with 1036 views | waveneyblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:07 - Jun 29 by MattinLondon |
You’re being very disingenuous in relation to this thread as there has been sniping from all sides. |
Just suggesting how it usually happens. | | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:14 - Jun 29 with 1044 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 15:50 - Jun 29 by waveneyblue |
Shocker..... same old, same old.
Threads are fine as long as we all agree with a certain few, the trouble starts if/when we dont |
Have you read the thread?
Know that might be your wider view (which I disagree with), but that seems very far removed from the reality over the last 7 pages.
Edit - your reply above to Matt shows that no, you haven't read it and just waded in as per. [Post edited 29 Jun 18:37]
|  | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:17 - Jun 29 with 1014 views | waveneyblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:14 - Jun 29 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
Have you read the thread?
Know that might be your wider view (which I disagree with), but that seems very far removed from the reality over the last 7 pages.
Edit - your reply above to Matt shows that no, you haven't read it and just waded in as per. [Post edited 29 Jun 18:37]
|
Yes thank you.
Just all starts to get nasty, SB being particularly arsey/unpleasant in his usual way
But he Stokie, so its all good 👍 | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:21 - Jun 29 with 1020 views | StokieBlue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:17 - Jun 29 by waveneyblue |
Yes thank you.
Just all starts to get nasty, SB being particularly arsey/unpleasant in his usual way
But he Stokie, so its all good 👍 |
I'm sure you've read the entire thread, absorbed the narrative being pushed and the manner in which it's being pushed and posted reasoned and informed responses.
You should probably report it to admin if you think it's "vile" and if you feel I've been unpleasant.
I think it's fairly clear you've not read the thread and you had already decided what to write as your explanation of the thread bears no resemblance to reality.
SB | |
| Avatar - M101 - Pinwheel Galaxy |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:28 - Jun 29 with 974 views | waveneyblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:21 - Jun 29 by StokieBlue |
I'm sure you've read the entire thread, absorbed the narrative being pushed and the manner in which it's being pushed and posted reasoned and informed responses.
You should probably report it to admin if you think it's "vile" and if you feel I've been unpleasant.
I think it's fairly clear you've not read the thread and you had already decided what to write as your explanation of the thread bears no resemblance to reality.
SB |
I read it and i noticed your usual attack on Benters and a tirade at Glasgow Blue.
As I said, standard stuff.
You are always keen to call people out, Im just following suit.
Ive only ever run to admin twice, once when Rommers launched a pretty much unprovoked assault on me and the other time to ask for a thread to be locked to stop you and your like minded chums from continuously attacking me.
The rest of the time, I simply comment on what I see.
[Post edited 29 Jun 16:31]
| | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:34 - Jun 29 with 975 views | StokieBlue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:28 - Jun 29 by waveneyblue |
I read it and i noticed your usual attack on Benters and a tirade at Glasgow Blue.
As I said, standard stuff.
You are always keen to call people out, Im just following suit.
Ive only ever run to admin twice, once when Rommers launched a pretty much unprovoked assault on me and the other time to ask for a thread to be locked to stop you and your like minded chums from continuously attacking me.
The rest of the time, I simply comment on what I see.
[Post edited 29 Jun 16:31]
|
The first person to point out GB inconsistencies wasn't me and you don't seem to care about his attack on me or the fact I hadn't responded to Benters before he posted about me.
Almost like you didn't read it.
If you're keen to call people out you'll be calling out GB for his attack right? And Benters for mentioning other posters right?
It's incredibly transparent what you're doing and very much your usual stuff so I'll leave you to it.
SB | |
| Avatar - M101 - Pinwheel Galaxy |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:37 - Jun 29 with 963 views | bartyg |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 15:50 - Jun 29 by waveneyblue |
Shocker..... same old, same old.
Threads are fine as long as we all agree with a certain few, the trouble starts if/when we dont |
Weepy Wavey's here, everyone |  |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:43 - Jun 29 with 919 views | waveneyblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:37 - Jun 29 by bartyg |
Weepy Wavey's here, everyone |
Afternoon sweet cheeks.
Lovely to hear from you.
I assume you're on SB's side and think his responses are fair game ? | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:49 - Jun 29 with 922 views | naa |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:43 - Jun 29 by waveneyblue |
Afternoon sweet cheeks.
Lovely to hear from you.
I assume you're on SB's side and think his responses are fair game ? |
I don't often comment, but do read enough to get the feel of posters.
Personally I think everyone has been pretty rude to everyone else.
Not sure who I'd say started it. but GlasgowBlue was a bit high and mighty with his meat-free suggestion (though I'm sure it was well-intentioned) and got rude when called out on it.
SB has been pretty rude towards the end - not entirely unprovoked.
Benters has just niggled others without offering any substance as he often seems to. [Post edited 29 Jun 17:04]
| | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 17:09 - Jun 29 with 872 views | Dubtractor |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:49 - Jun 29 by naa |
I don't often comment, but do read enough to get the feel of posters.
Personally I think everyone has been pretty rude to everyone else.
Not sure who I'd say started it. but GlasgowBlue was a bit high and mighty with his meat-free suggestion (though I'm sure it was well-intentioned) and got rude when called out on it.
SB has been pretty rude towards the end - not entirely unprovoked.
Benters has just niggled others without offering any substance as he often seems to. [Post edited 29 Jun 17:04]
|
This. |  |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 17:26 - Jun 29 with 815 views | Dubtractor |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 17:24 - Jun 29 by NthQldITFC |
'Personally I think everyone has been pretty rude to everyone else. '
 |
When they say 'everybody' they mean everyone apart from us 2. | |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 17:37 - Jun 29 with 783 views | MattinLondon |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 17:26 - Jun 29 by Dubtractor |
When they say 'everybody' they mean everyone apart from us 2. |
I would just like to add that I have not been rude to anyone on this thread.
Must say the view from the moral high ground is fabulous. | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:08 - Jun 29 with 723 views | naa |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 17:37 - Jun 29 by MattinLondon |
I would just like to add that I have not been rude to anyone on this thread.
Must say the view from the moral high ground is fabulous. |
Apologies if I over generalised.
Mostly it was a reasonably strong debate but it did degenerate at the end. Not by all involved. | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:13 - Jun 29 with 701 views | Dubtractor |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:08 - Jun 29 by naa |
Apologies if I over generalised.
Mostly it was a reasonably strong debate but it did degenerate at the end. Not by all involved. |
Na, your post was fine. | |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:39 - Jun 29 with 622 views | NewcyBlue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 16:49 - Jun 29 by naa |
I don't often comment, but do read enough to get the feel of posters.
Personally I think everyone has been pretty rude to everyone else.
Not sure who I'd say started it. but GlasgowBlue was a bit high and mighty with his meat-free suggestion (though I'm sure it was well-intentioned) and got rude when called out on it.
SB has been pretty rude towards the end - not entirely unprovoked.
Benters has just niggled others without offering any substance as he often seems to. [Post edited 29 Jun 17:04]
|
I got too caught up in the politics posting on here at one point. Locked down in a hotel in Montevideo didn't really help either.
I never really understood how tedious it was for Phil, how much extra work it was for him when he didn't really need it. Apologies Phil.
I've come to realise that there will never be a world that matches my ideals. I can influence a very small sphere, I can be a decent person and look after my family and the people at work who rely on me to make sure they aren't killed during their work.
Other than that, I can do good deeds, I can volunteer at the local food banks, I can do runs for charity, but otherwise my impact is very very minuscule. I'm sure if everyone did something good everyday then it would soon add up. But I also appreciate it's a hard life for people, people don't always have the time that I have, and that I'm very fortunate.
I could do more for the environment. I also feel that I balance it out somewhat with solar panels and other energy initiatives that we do at work. Could I do more? Yes, but I like eating meat. I like driving a V8 for fun. I don't have any other hobbies, I do very low mileage on the cars.
In conclusion, I am much more withdrawn and am probably more realistic about my sphere of influence. There's not much point wasting my energy arguing with people, especially on the internet.
It's a shame the thread ended up how it did, I'm sure there are some interesting environmental initiatives that people have experience of that could probably be shared. See the other thread about air source heat pumps.
I know there are some very intelligent and well researched people on here, and appreciate their efforts at sharing their wealth of knowledge. |  |
| |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:43 - Jun 29 with 604 views | Dubtractor |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:39 - Jun 29 by NewcyBlue |
I got too caught up in the politics posting on here at one point. Locked down in a hotel in Montevideo didn't really help either.
I never really understood how tedious it was for Phil, how much extra work it was for him when he didn't really need it. Apologies Phil.
I've come to realise that there will never be a world that matches my ideals. I can influence a very small sphere, I can be a decent person and look after my family and the people at work who rely on me to make sure they aren't killed during their work.
Other than that, I can do good deeds, I can volunteer at the local food banks, I can do runs for charity, but otherwise my impact is very very minuscule. I'm sure if everyone did something good everyday then it would soon add up. But I also appreciate it's a hard life for people, people don't always have the time that I have, and that I'm very fortunate.
I could do more for the environment. I also feel that I balance it out somewhat with solar panels and other energy initiatives that we do at work. Could I do more? Yes, but I like eating meat. I like driving a V8 for fun. I don't have any other hobbies, I do very low mileage on the cars.
In conclusion, I am much more withdrawn and am probably more realistic about my sphere of influence. There's not much point wasting my energy arguing with people, especially on the internet.
It's a shame the thread ended up how it did, I'm sure there are some interesting environmental initiatives that people have experience of that could probably be shared. See the other thread about air source heat pumps.
I know there are some very intelligent and well researched people on here, and appreciate their efforts at sharing their wealth of knowledge. |
"There's not much point wasting my energy arguing with people, especially on the internet."
This has been my approach for a few years now - not a good use of emotional energy, and you're not changing anyone's views. | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
