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This is absolutely horrible from Reform 20:53 - Jun 26 with 7685 viewsStokieBlue

They have expanded their plans against EU nationals if they get into power:

"Announcing what he called the “migrants labour levy”, Robert Jenrick, Reform’s Treasury spokesperson, said employers would have to pay higher national insurance for non-UK nationals, as well as an annual fee that would be more for lower earners, citing the possibility of £3,750 for someone on the “national living wage”, a surcharge of about 15%."

"There would be no additional consideration given for EU nationals, even if they had been in the UK for decades, or had a UK national partner and children, Jenrick said, and his message for such people was that if they lost their job because of the levy they should leave."

"Both the new policies would require a renegotiation of the Brexit deal, with the possibility that the EU would penalise UK nationals living in the bloc as a reciprocal policy, or impose trade barriers."

"If you are in this country and you are not a British citizen, and you are somebody who will not be able to stay in the UK under a Reform government, then you should think of leaving the country."


https://www.theguardian.com/uk

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 15:28 - Jun 27 with 1453 viewseireblue

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 13:41 - Jun 27 by marcus1642

Fabulous idea. Then maybe employers/government will finally invest real money into training the native population.


You are happy to break up the family of a UK national?

That’s “Fabulous”?

The mother of a UK native child should be prepared to leave the U.K.

“Fabulous”?

That makes you the ……counting this through though. About 19% of the Workforce is not a UK national.
And there 700k vacancies, that aren’t currently filled, by the native population.

So, you are going to either raise costs for the majority of employers, or create even more vacancies, and be willing to break up families of UK natives.

Whilst, today, employers do get tax incentives to train employees.

I think you spelt fcukwittery incorrectly.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 15:48 - Jun 27 with 1390 viewsStokieBlue

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 13:41 - Jun 27 by marcus1642

Fabulous idea. Then maybe employers/government will finally invest real money into training the native population.


What's the "native population"?

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 16:26 - Jun 27 with 1310 viewsnoggin

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 15:48 - Jun 27 by StokieBlue

What's the "native population"?

SB


If your name's not Smith or Brown, you ain't comin in.

*Brown's an unfortunate name.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 16:38 - Jun 27 with 1289 viewsbrogansnose

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 13:41 - Jun 27 by marcus1642

Fabulous idea. Then maybe employers/government will finally invest real money into training the native population.


I'm not altogether certain that the 'native population' is that interested in being paid low wages to act as care workers, to go out into the fields of East Anglia harvesting Broccoli in Winter, work as hospital auxilaries or get minimum wage working in a fulfilment warehouse. I work in construction and can't get labourers , from the 'native population' to even turn up let alone actually do some work.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 17:04 - Jun 27 with 1225 viewsHorsham

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 15:28 - Jun 27 by eireblue

You are happy to break up the family of a UK national?

That’s “Fabulous”?

The mother of a UK native child should be prepared to leave the U.K.

“Fabulous”?

That makes you the ……counting this through though. About 19% of the Workforce is not a UK national.
And there 700k vacancies, that aren’t currently filled, by the native population.

So, you are going to either raise costs for the majority of employers, or create even more vacancies, and be willing to break up families of UK natives.

Whilst, today, employers do get tax incentives to train employees.

I think you spelt fcukwittery incorrectly.


My family.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 02:52 - Jun 28 with 1063 viewsClapham_Junction

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 09:15 - Jun 27 by Horsham

My Dad is an EU national. He’s been in this country since the age of 7 and worked solidly and paid into the system for an entire working life. He’s contributed to this country to à significant level in his own way and became a respected expert in his field. He’s retired now and has been for about 15 years.

His brother has a similar story but took British citizenship. The only difference is my Dad didn’t - considered it unnecessary and he’s proud of the country he came from.

He’ll be àbout 80 by the time Reform are likely to have a chance to get in.

Under this system will they throw an old man with an English wife and British kids out of the country?

It’s not really clear what they’ll actually do but there’s a real effect on those likely to be affected.

Honestly I know that my family example is just one and the hatred directed to other members of society is worse - but this is a further demonstration of the below being played out

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Isn't this what Theresa May was doing to the Windrush generation?
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 06:53 - Jun 28 with 1021 viewsHorsham

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 02:52 - Jun 28 by Clapham_Junction

Isn't this what Theresa May was doing to the Windrush generation?


I’m not that well read on that but essentially yes i believe.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 07:07 - Jun 28 with 1000 viewsBenters

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 16:38 - Jun 27 by brogansnose

I'm not altogether certain that the 'native population' is that interested in being paid low wages to act as care workers, to go out into the fields of East Anglia harvesting Broccoli in Winter, work as hospital auxilaries or get minimum wage working in a fulfilment warehouse. I work in construction and can't get labourers , from the 'native population' to even turn up let alone actually do some work.


My mother used to work the fields and orchards around this way,she raised four children and kept a house going.When I was a baby I’d go with her and she would put me in a apple box.

This country has made it possible for people to choose the option of not going to work as a career and that’s wrong.

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 08:39 - Jun 28 with 929 viewsDJR

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 07:07 - Jun 28 by Benters

My mother used to work the fields and orchards around this way,she raised four children and kept a house going.When I was a baby I’d go with her and she would put me in a apple box.

This country has made it possible for people to choose the option of not going to work as a career and that’s wrong.


You were obviously the apple of her eye.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 08:44 - Jun 28 with 904 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 07:07 - Jun 28 by Benters

My mother used to work the fields and orchards around this way,she raised four children and kept a house going.When I was a baby I’d go with her and she would put me in a apple box.

This country has made it possible for people to choose the option of not going to work as a career and that’s wrong.


There are very, very few people who "choose the option of not going to work as a career". Being on benefits is not a pleasant existence for the lazy as certain tabloids and politicians would have you believe.

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 09:10 - Jun 28 with 839 viewsMattinLondon

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 08:44 - Jun 28 by The_Flashing_Smile

There are very, very few people who "choose the option of not going to work as a career". Being on benefits is not a pleasant existence for the lazy as certain tabloids and politicians would have you believe.


Yeah but something about his mum and stuff.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 09:11 - Jun 28 with 834 viewsTheMoralMajority

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 16:26 - Jun 27 by noggin

If your name's not Smith or Brown, you ain't comin in.

*Brown's an unfortunate name.
[Post edited 27 Jun 16:34]


Not this year. You're not on the list.

Ashton out

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 09:53 - Jun 28 with 763 viewsBenters

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 08:44 - Jun 28 by The_Flashing_Smile

There are very, very few people who "choose the option of not going to work as a career". Being on benefits is not a pleasant existence for the lazy as certain tabloids and politicians would have you believe.


Righto !

Take a trip to your local spoons during the week,they seem to be happy to me !

Always the same faces day in day out.

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 09:54 - Jun 28 with 762 viewsBenters

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 08:39 - Jun 28 by DJR

You were obviously the apple of her eye.


Good work have an uppie

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 10:14 - Jun 28 with 711 viewseireblue

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 07:07 - Jun 28 by Benters

My mother used to work the fields and orchards around this way,she raised four children and kept a house going.When I was a baby I’d go with her and she would put me in a apple box.

This country has made it possible for people to choose the option of not going to work as a career and that’s wrong.


Yep other mothers did that as well. They are the ones being threatened by your man.
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 11:56 - Jun 28 with 619 viewsStokieBlue

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 09:53 - Jun 28 by Benters

Righto !

Take a trip to your local spoons during the week,they seem to be happy to me !

Always the same faces day in day out.


So you're anecdotal example of about 5 people in your local "spoons" is enough to judge everyone across the country.

Sigh.

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 13:25 - Jun 28 with 531 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 09:53 - Jun 28 by Benters

Righto !

Take a trip to your local spoons during the week,they seem to be happy to me !

Always the same faces day in day out.


You don't see much further than the end of your own nose do you?

How do you know all these people are on benefits?

Even if there were 10 people in every Wetherspoons in the country on benefits, that's only 8000 people. That's a tiny amount of the population. And should people on benefits just stay at home and not go out for a drink if they want? Should people on benefits just suffer and not have any pleasure?

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 13:29 - Jun 28 with 516 viewsJ2BLUE

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 07:07 - Jun 28 by Benters

My mother used to work the fields and orchards around this way,she raised four children and kept a house going.When I was a baby I’d go with her and she would put me in a apple box.

This country has made it possible for people to choose the option of not going to work as a career and that’s wrong.


Oooh look at the little snowflake with his apple box. Previous generations were just thrown in a ditch and left to hope it rained to get a drink. None of this woke apple box nonsense.

I guess you didn't like it up you, eh buh?
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 20:58 - Jun 28 with 282 viewsBenters

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 13:29 - Jun 28 by J2BLUE

Oooh look at the little snowflake with his apple box. Previous generations were just thrown in a ditch and left to hope it rained to get a drink. None of this woke apple box nonsense.

I guess you didn't like it up you, eh buh?


Is that supposed to be funny ?

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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 21:06 - Jun 28 with 255 viewsMattinLondon

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 20:58 - Jun 28 by Benters

Is that supposed to be funny ?


It was funny
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This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 21:10 - Jun 28 with 245 viewsBenters

This is absolutely horrible from Reform on 21:06 - Jun 28 by MattinLondon

It was funny


I was just checking.

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