| Morita! 12:57 - Jul 17 with 7398 views | portmanking | A Premier League Luongo. Super-intelligent in and out of possession. Great engine. Champions League experience. Free transfer. What's. not. to. like. |  | | |  |
| Morita! on 13:22 - Jul 17 | homer_123 |
| Morita! on 13:21 - Jul 17 by Marshalls_Mullet | Nope. I only reference the Top 5 European leagues as 'Top Leagues'. He he he. 😉 Its OK to disagree. |
As I say, absolutely your right to to feel differently. I just though the top league comment was unfair. [Post edited 17 Jul 13:22]
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| Morita! on 13:23 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:22 - Jul 17 by homer_123 | As I say, absolutely your right to to feel differently. I just though the top league comment was unfair. [Post edited 17 Jul 13:22]
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And its perfectly OK for you to feel that way. |  |
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| Morita! on 13:23 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:19 - Jul 17 by Cheltenham_Blue | In fact, last season the top league in Portugal was rated 4th on the UEFA Co-Efficient ahead of Italy and France. |
One swallow a summer does not make. 😉😉 |  |
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| Morita! on 13:25 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:19 - Jul 17 by TRUE_BLUE123 | Were Sunderland wrong to sign Noah Sadiki ? |
I would (like most people) judge a young player with a high ceiling differently to a 31 year old who has most of his career behind him. |  |
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| Morita! on 13:27 - Jul 17 | Litfc00 | Would be a sensible signing. Isn’t the most mobile but offers lots of value on the ball and is decent defensively. Two year deal would be perfect but image the player is looking for a 3 year deal. Linked below is a data report on Morita. https://ibb.co/cS5SpDSj |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:29 - Jul 17 | Vaughan8 |
| Morita! on 13:19 - Jul 17 by Marshalls_Mullet | Yes, like I said, hopefully a good squad player. Like Tanaka. |
SO you're only demotion for a good first team player to a good squad player is the fact he's played in Portugal? Even though its one of the top teams in that league and they get reasonably far in the champions league? So if he'd have played for Rennes for 5 years, he would be better? If you think these kind of players are "squad" players then I think you might be disappointed this season. Having said that, you might be totally right. If he is then we'll have a really good midfield. |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:31 - Jul 17 | Libero | That would be some signing! |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:33 - Jul 17 | portmanking |
| Morita! on 13:25 - Jul 17 by Marshalls_Mullet | I would (like most people) judge a young player with a high ceiling differently to a 31 year old who has most of his career behind him. |
Kin'ell, you really have boxed yourself into a corner with this one, haven't you? |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Morita! on 13:35 - Jul 17 | Libero |
| Morita! on 13:33 - Jul 17 by portmanking | Kin'ell, you really have boxed yourself into a corner with this one, haven't you? |
I don't think he's even seen him play, lol |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:36 - Jul 17 | jasondozzell |
| Morita! on 13:09 - Jul 17 by Marshalls_Mullet | In terms of a Top 5 European league, he hasnt played in one. Some early Champions League appearances. You have to remember, early round CL matches are often against teams who are not PL level opposition. Like I say, OK if a squad player, but it doesnt excite me. |
We're not playing a video game. All that Town have been through and you turn your nose up at an international who has played a huge number of games for Sporting Lisbon! |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:36 - Jul 17 | burnbudgiesburn |
| Morita! on 13:29 - Jul 17 by Vaughan8 | SO you're only demotion for a good first team player to a good squad player is the fact he's played in Portugal? Even though its one of the top teams in that league and they get reasonably far in the champions league? So if he'd have played for Rennes for 5 years, he would be better? If you think these kind of players are "squad" players then I think you might be disappointed this season. Having said that, you might be totally right. If he is then we'll have a really good midfield. |
Haha yeah the Idea Ipswich would be signing 40 cap internationals who played in the champions league QF only last season to be squad filler is crazy. I think a few are going to be disappointed if they expect more tbh, given our current status. We are going to be last choice for many top level players along with the other promoted sides. Which means we will have to take risks and box clever with our signings this season. |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:38 - Jul 17 | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Morita! on 13:25 - Jul 17 by Marshalls_Mullet | I would (like most people) judge a young player with a high ceiling differently to a 31 year old who has most of his career behind him. |
But would you think he could be one of the breakout stars in European football playing for a newly promoted team because he signed from a team not in the top 5 leagues ? |  |
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| Morita! on 13:43 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:38 - Jul 17 by TRUE_BLUE123 | But would you think he could be one of the breakout stars in European football playing for a newly promoted team because he signed from a team not in the top 5 leagues ? |
Like I said, I would judge young players differently. A huge amount of the best young talent start at smaller clubs before being poached by better teams. |  |
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| Morita! on 13:43 - Jul 17 | bsw72 |
| Morita! on 13:20 - Jul 17 by WolfieAtTheBack | We need experienced players right now and in this position so why not. However.... he missed out on the WC this summer due to injury concerns so ups and downs with this potential singing. |
He played 50 matches last season, he was dropped from the squad out of the manager's choice not because of injury. |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:44 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:33 - Jul 17 by portmanking | Kin'ell, you really have boxed yourself into a corner with this one, haven't you? |
I enjoy the discussion. Its not binary, we can all have different views. Dont stress yourself out about it. Feel free to read all my comments if you want to get another view. If you want to live in an echo chamber, dont read them. |  |
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| Morita! on 13:45 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:35 - Jul 17 by Libero | I don't think he's even seen him play, lol |
We cant comment on signings unless we have seen them play? I simply said I am not sold on his CV. But hopefully he will be a good squad player. Thats OK to say. This is a forum for discussion. Peace out. |  |
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| Morita! on 13:46 - Jul 17 | HighgateBlue |
| Morita! on 13:07 - Jul 17 by portmanking | Absolutely not. The lad knows ball. He's been a regular player for one of the biggest clubs in Portugal for 4 years. I know Leeds were taking a very serious look at him this summer. |
I'm not concerned at all that he's been playing in Portugal, and it seems that he himself is leaving there in order to have a crack at a bigger league. However, do we know why he missed out on the world cup squad? Sees a little incongruous if he is genuinely going to be a force in the Premier League. |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:46 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:29 - Jul 17 by Vaughan8 | SO you're only demotion for a good first team player to a good squad player is the fact he's played in Portugal? Even though its one of the top teams in that league and they get reasonably far in the champions league? So if he'd have played for Rennes for 5 years, he would be better? If you think these kind of players are "squad" players then I think you might be disappointed this season. Having said that, you might be totally right. If he is then we'll have a really good midfield. |
Chill out, its OK to disagree. I hope you enjoy the season. |  |
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| Morita! on 13:47 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:36 - Jul 17 by burnbudgiesburn | Haha yeah the Idea Ipswich would be signing 40 cap internationals who played in the champions league QF only last season to be squad filler is crazy. I think a few are going to be disappointed if they expect more tbh, given our current status. We are going to be last choice for many top level players along with the other promoted sides. Which means we will have to take risks and box clever with our signings this season. |
We will see. We all want him to be a great signing. |  |
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| Morita! on 13:50 - Jul 17 | ITFCSG | Very decent signing especially if it’s on a free, plenty of European experience and has a footballing brain Would be decent alongside Matusiwa And speaking of Japanese, let’s raid Real Sociedad for Kubo as a replacement for Philogene - he’s the Asian Messi 🥳 |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:51 - Jul 17 | BloomBlue |
| Morita! on 13:25 - Jul 17 by Marshalls_Mullet | I would (like most people) judge a young player with a high ceiling differently to a 31 year old who has most of his career behind him. |
Valid point. Although Xhaka aged 33 was the main reason why Sunderland had a good season. Sometimes you need an experienced head |  | |  |
| Morita! on 13:54 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:51 - Jul 17 by BloomBlue | Valid point. Although Xhaka aged 33 was the main reason why Sunderland had a good season. Sometimes you need an experienced head |
Nothing against experience. Remember Magic, Veno and Mowbray. Xhaka does have a stellar pedigree. I've not said I'm against this signing, just that I wasnt entirely sold. Unfortunately an alternative opinion on here often leads to a pile on, as people like an echo chamber. (Thats not aimed at you). |  |
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| Morita! on 13:54 - Jul 17 | bartyg | Would be a superb signing. Only problem might be pace in the midfield if it's him and Matusiwa |  |
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| Morita! on 13:56 - Jul 17 | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Morita! on 13:54 - Jul 17 by bartyg | Would be a superb signing. Only problem might be pace in the midfield if it's him and Matusiwa |
We would definitely need a mobile, all action midfielder as well. Probably above 6 foot to give us some extra height |  |
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| Morita! on 13:58 - Jul 17 | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morita! on 13:11 - Jul 17 by portmanking | Yeeeeah... Except he lined up for Sporting against Arsenal in the CL last 8. Honestly, don't slate a player/signing unless you really know what he's about. This is a really good fit for our pivot. Metronomic player who rarely misplaces a pass or a tackle. Great positional sense. It's like Luongo with even better talent/pedigree. |
Its great to have an open discussion. Dont let yourself get too stressed by people who question things. Its OK. Lets hope hes a great signing. |  |
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