| Squad 10:33 - Aug 3 with 3092 views | _CliveBaker_ |
GK: Scherpen, Walton, Van Oevelen
RB: NEW, Furlong
LB: Davis, Johnson
CB: Diop, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre
6: Florentino, Matusiwa
8: NEW, Nunez
L10: Maeda, J. Clarke
R10: Fatawu, McAteer, Burns
10: NEW, Mehmeti, Egeli (u21)
9: NEW (Enciso?), Emersonn, Akpom
A few in here are quite versatile, e.g. Enciso could play in the 10 and Maeda in the central 10, but how's this looking? I think the shape is about right for a 25 man squad in terms of 3 x keepers and 2 for each position + 2 or 3 in attacking areas. We might want to carry a 5th CM instead of 1 of those though.
Could save a squad place by getting van Oevelen out on loan and an U21 keeper in, but not sure that's likely.
Might be scars from last time but I'm not convinced its strong enough to stay up, but obviously depends on who those additions are to some extent. Leaves a lot to move on as well - Palmer, Ogbene, Humphreys, Taylor, Philogene (purely because he wants out), Al-Hamadi, Hirst (ideal world I'd keep him ahead of Akpom, but no doubt much easier to move on at a profit rather than a loss) all not making this 25. |  | | |  |
| Squad on 10:37 - Aug 3 with 2422 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I think I see Enciso as a 10 and then getting an experienced 9 in the building.
Really need to hit on that next midfielder we bring in. Needs to have a top athletic profile because atm we might have the slowest midfield in the Prem.
I still want to see another centre back, would be ok with Kipre moving on. |  |
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| Squad on 10:38 - Aug 3 with 2414 views | Ipswich24 |
We definitely need 5 cms |  |
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| Squad on 10:44 - Aug 3 with 2315 views | cressi |
| Squad on 10:37 - Aug 3 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I think I see Enciso as a 10 and then getting an experienced 9 in the building.
Really need to hit on that next midfielder we bring in. Needs to have a top athletic profile because atm we might have the slowest midfield in the Prem.
I still want to see another centre back, would be ok with Kipre moving on. |
Agree Kipre probably to slow and won't be surprised if replaced.
Need a striker
If Taylor was to leave we need 3 midfield players
A 10 not sure where Enciso players if he comes.
Prob a versatile full back defender who can play either side. |  | | |
| If you haven’t got 5cms…. on 10:46 - Aug 3 with 2286 views | Bloots |
| Squad on 10:38 - Aug 3 by Ipswich24 |
We definitely need 5 cms |
….then you got problems.
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| Squad on 10:49 - Aug 3 with 2241 views | tractorboy1978 |
Still think we will be more aggressive with our recruitment than your post suggests because as you say, I am not sure that leaves the squad good enough.
Still think we will want another left sided CB/LB. If we do that then Kipre will move on.
Then 4 CM's plus Nunez assuming Taylor goes - so 3 new signings including Florentino.
And in the attacking positions, if we need to move McAteer, Mehmeti, Akpom on to make space (probably on loan) then we will. I really don't see us being sentimental. [Post edited 3 Aug 10:54]
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| Squad on 10:50 - Aug 3 with 2230 views | TractorFrog |
I think Enciso would be the 10 and we still need a 9. And I would keep Taylor as the 5th CM. Another LB instead of Johnson maybe as well. |  |
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| Squad on 10:55 - Aug 3 with 2132 views | JakeITFC |
I think/hope that we are in a stronger position this time in that a) our starting point was a bit better squad strength wise, b) we've done some solid early business that allows c) we go into the last few weeks of the window in a bit less of a panic so that we can do some good moves when the trickle down of talent/loan signings from Prem teams can happen at the end of August.
I agree with your squad plan broadly but I'd maybe like another CB in there, definitely an additional central midfield player and I think a striker is a must. |  | | |
| Squad on 10:56 - Aug 3 with 2124 views | TownieRob |
Nice to see it all laid out.
If we still have, or at least expecting many minutes from Furlong, Johnson, Mcateer, Egeli or Akpom then we are in a bit of bother in my honest opinion.
Still loads of work to do. | | | |
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| Squad on 10:58 - Aug 3 with 2108 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Squad on 10:38 - Aug 3 by Ipswich24 |
We definitely need 5 cms |
Think you're right, that could mean Florentino + 2 more in, otherwise it'll need to be 1 we've already got 'in the building'. Either Taylor if there's no firm interest, or Humphreys if we get a nice offer for Taylor. | | | |
| Squad on 11:01 - Aug 3 with 2072 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Squad on 10:49 - Aug 3 by tractorboy1978 |
Still think we will be more aggressive with our recruitment than your post suggests because as you say, I am not sure that leaves the squad good enough.
Still think we will want another left sided CB/LB. If we do that then Kipre will move on.
Then 4 CM's plus Nunez assuming Taylor goes - so 3 new signings including Florentino.
And in the attacking positions, if we need to move McAteer, Mehmeti, Akpom on to make space (probably on loan) then we will. I really don't see us being sentimental. [Post edited 3 Aug 10:54]
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I don't disagree with any of that in terms of what we need, just hard to see a world where we've got 7 or 8 more signings coming in the next few weeks. | | | |
| Squad on 11:10 - Aug 3 with 2000 views | portmanking |
| Squad on 11:01 - Aug 3 by _CliveBaker_ |
I don't disagree with any of that in terms of what we need, just hard to see a world where we've got 7 or 8 more signings coming in the next few weeks. |
Really? I think 7-8 is the bare minimum of what we need to get the squad up to scratch. Club is working night and day to negotiate and get deals over the line.
We have 2 PL loan slots remember. Plus 2-3 overseas loans if needed. I'll be surprised if we haven't got 3-4 in before Sunderland plus 3+ in the final week of the window (maybe even a couple on deadline day?) [Post edited 3 Aug 11:10]
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| Always good to see this laid out on 11:14 - Aug 3 with 1969 views | unstableblue |
However, I expect we will often play two behind the striker, and not three with a 10...
So its almost a pool of attacking mids to draw from.
I also wouldn't say Florentino is going to start ahead of Matusiwa. He is myave just very strong back-up.
Enciso I would put in the attacking mid group rather than striker - as a 10 or left sided attacking mid to complete with Clarke and Maeda.
Finally I like you do see Johnson being kept on as he has such strong physical attrbiutes; and has versatility |  |
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| Squad on 11:14 - Aug 3 with 1971 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Squad on 11:10 - Aug 3 by portmanking |
Really? I think 7-8 is the bare minimum of what we need to get the squad up to scratch. Club is working night and day to negotiate and get deals over the line.
We have 2 PL loan slots remember. Plus 2-3 overseas loans if needed. I'll be surprised if we haven't got 3-4 in before Sunderland plus 3+ in the final week of the window (maybe even a couple on deadline day?) [Post edited 3 Aug 11:10]
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That's what I said. I agree we 'need' it, I just can't see a world where we're through deadline day with none of McAteer, Mehmeti, Akpom, Kipre, Taylor, Furlong still in the squad. [Post edited 3 Aug 11:15]
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| Squad on 11:16 - Aug 3 with 1930 views | Libero |
It's a weird position to be in, to be relatively happy with our business so far, but also see huge glaring issues in the squad - centre midfield/number ten, we're absolutely cooked, as it stands.
Florentino Luis is a potentially good addition, but we need 2 others and some number ten options. |  | | |
| Squad on 11:17 - Aug 3 with 1908 views | TIB |
I’m still hoping we might pull off the transfer of Berg from Bodo, think he’d be a great addition to the middle of park. Add Luis and maybe Lukic into the mix, I’d feel like the middle was strong, but right now it is a huge black hole in the squad.
I feel like a dive into Wolves squad might not go amiss, Tchatchoua for RB and Toti (a big player for GON at Wolves) would help out defensively.
I’d quite like a loan move for Ferguson as well for that 9 slot, young, knows the league and would allow Enciso to focus on sitting in the 10. [Post edited 3 Aug 11:19]
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| Squad on 11:20 - Aug 3 with 1859 views | TownieRob |
| Squad on 11:17 - Aug 3 by TIB |
I’m still hoping we might pull off the transfer of Berg from Bodo, think he’d be a great addition to the middle of park. Add Luis and maybe Lukic into the mix, I’d feel like the middle was strong, but right now it is a huge black hole in the squad.
I feel like a dive into Wolves squad might not go amiss, Tchatchoua for RB and Toti (a big player for GON at Wolves) would help out defensively.
I’d quite like a loan move for Ferguson as well for that 9 slot, young, knows the league and would allow Enciso to focus on sitting in the 10. [Post edited 3 Aug 11:19]
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Would get more appearances out of Duncan than Evan. | | | |
| Squad on 11:22 - Aug 3 with 1822 views | Libero |
| Squad on 11:17 - Aug 3 by TIB |
I’m still hoping we might pull off the transfer of Berg from Bodo, think he’d be a great addition to the middle of park. Add Luis and maybe Lukic into the mix, I’d feel like the middle was strong, but right now it is a huge black hole in the squad.
I feel like a dive into Wolves squad might not go amiss, Tchatchoua for RB and Toti (a big player for GON at Wolves) would help out defensively.
I’d quite like a loan move for Ferguson as well for that 9 slot, young, knows the league and would allow Enciso to focus on sitting in the 10. [Post edited 3 Aug 11:19]
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Aye, think we're on the same lines-
left sided centre back,
central midfielder,
central midfielder,
number 10
centre forward
these are the bare minimum signings we still need.
portmanking mentioning the premier league loan slots is pertinent- imagine Arsenal want to let Myles Lewis-Skelley go somehwere that he's going to play Premier League football week-in-week-out, a signing of that ilk wouldn't be impossible and would make a huge difference to us, we've just got to wait for other clubs to decide who is wanted/unwanted for the season ahead, I guess. | | | |
| Squad on 11:23 - Aug 3 with 1816 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Squad on 11:16 - Aug 3 by Libero |
It's a weird position to be in, to be relatively happy with our business so far, but also see huge glaring issues in the squad - centre midfield/number ten, we're absolutely cooked, as it stands.
Florentino Luis is a potentially good addition, but we need 2 others and some number ten options. |
Yeah, and the extent of the change we largely all seem to agree is needed is pretty significant given the timelines. 23 outfield players listed in the squad I posted (with 4 spaces for additions), and we're thinking a further 3 or 4 of them might be displaced. Plus 7 currently in the squad but not in that list.
Hell of a lot to do in both directions. | | | |
| Squad on 11:24 - Aug 3 with 1810 views | portmanking |
| Squad on 11:14 - Aug 3 by _CliveBaker_ |
That's what I said. I agree we 'need' it, I just can't see a world where we're through deadline day with none of McAteer, Mehmeti, Akpom, Kipre, Taylor, Furlong still in the squad. [Post edited 3 Aug 11:15]
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I don't think you'd struggle to offload any of the above, certainly on loan. I think there's resale value in Jack, Mehmeti and McAteer, with the others likely being loaned.
Kipre has looked dreadful in pre-season, personally, so I don't want him anywhere near a PL squad.
Plenty of Champ squads would take Akpom, Kipre and Furlong on loan too. | | | |
| Squad on 11:24 - Aug 3 with 1799 views | Libero |
| Squad on 11:23 - Aug 3 by _CliveBaker_ |
Yeah, and the extent of the change we largely all seem to agree is needed is pretty significant given the timelines. 23 outfield players listed in the squad I posted (with 4 spaces for additions), and we're thinking a further 3 or 4 of them might be displaced. Plus 7 currently in the squad but not in that list.
Hell of a lot to do in both directions. |
and nineteen days to do it in... | | | |
| Squad on 11:28 - Aug 3 with 1767 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Squad on 11:24 - Aug 3 by portmanking |
I don't think you'd struggle to offload any of the above, certainly on loan. I think there's resale value in Jack, Mehmeti and McAteer, with the others likely being loaned.
Kipre has looked dreadful in pre-season, personally, so I don't want him anywhere near a PL squad.
Plenty of Champ squads would take Akpom, Kipre and Furlong on loan too. |
7-8 in, 10+ out.
I don't disagree, I don't think players like Kipre and Akpom would ideally be in a 25 man Premier League squad, hell of a lot of work to do though in 4 weeks. I don't think we'll get through all of that by any stretch. | | | |
| Squad on 11:36 - Aug 3 with 1688 views | andyblue231 |
Makes me a bit nervous seeing it all laid out.
Real weak Areas all over
such weak cover at RB, LB, 8, 9 and 10
Emersonn and Akpom as 2/3 of our strikers. Not sure about that at all.
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| Squad on 11:44 - Aug 3 with 1614 views | itfcsuth |
It's just nowhere near strong enough in depth right now. We are bringing in the players you'd want, but the volume just isn't enough.
I don't see anyway in which we should be playing a back 4, I mean we would be shredded alive in the PL, but I do think the squad is shaping up nicely for a 3-4-2-1.
Scherpen
O'Shea - Diop - Greaves
RWB - Matusiwa - Florentino - Davis
Fatawu - Enciso
ST
Probably two away from a starting XI, presuming Florentino and Enciso are done, but then our depth is so weak right now, particularly in the front line
Im sorry but; Nunez, Mehmeti, Egeli, J.Clarke, Akpom, McAteer cannot be your reserve firepower in a Premier League season. |  | | |
| Squad on 12:12 - Aug 3 with 1475 views | portmanking |
| Squad on 11:44 - Aug 3 by itfcsuth |
It's just nowhere near strong enough in depth right now. We are bringing in the players you'd want, but the volume just isn't enough.
I don't see anyway in which we should be playing a back 4, I mean we would be shredded alive in the PL, but I do think the squad is shaping up nicely for a 3-4-2-1.
Scherpen
O'Shea - Diop - Greaves
RWB - Matusiwa - Florentino - Davis
Fatawu - Enciso
ST
Probably two away from a starting XI, presuming Florentino and Enciso are done, but then our depth is so weak right now, particularly in the front line
Im sorry but; Nunez, Mehmeti, Egeli, J.Clarke, Akpom, McAteer cannot be your reserve firepower in a Premier League season. |
You absolutely wouldn't play Azor and Florentino together. The front 3 in that system would never get a touch.
Not sure where this view of Fatawu being played as a central 10 is coming from either? He's an inverted winger and nothing else. I don't think 3-4-2-1 suits our likely squad in the final third whatsoever.
If we go 4-2-3-1 (GON's preferred shape) in the final third I'd like to see:
Fatawu - Enciso - Maeda
Emersonn/New ST | | | |
| Squad on 12:35 - Aug 3 with 1373 views | Blue_Heath |
| Squad on 12:12 - Aug 3 by portmanking |
You absolutely wouldn't play Azor and Florentino together. The front 3 in that system would never get a touch.
Not sure where this view of Fatawu being played as a central 10 is coming from either? He's an inverted winger and nothing else. I don't think 3-4-2-1 suits our likely squad in the final third whatsoever.
If we go 4-2-3-1 (GON's preferred shape) in the final third I'd like to see:
Fatawu - Enciso - Maeda
Emersonn/New ST |
Agree re front 4 but getting a decent striker is a must. | |
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