| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? 19:36 - Aug 10 with 3006 views | Dubtractor |
McKenna could do almost no wrong in my eyes, but the extent to which he didn't seem to even try to win cup matches did annoy me a little. It would be nice to go and watch a cup game knowing we might put some effort in. |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:44 - Aug 10 with 2517 views | andyblue231 |
For me the main reason for being in the premier league is be able to build a squad capable of winning a cup. Otherwise it’s just trying to finish 14-17th so you can try and finish 14-17th again. Which is quite despiriting. |  | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:48 - Aug 10 with 2460 views | unstableblue |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:44 - Aug 10 by andyblue231 |
For me the main reason for being in the premier league is be able to build a squad capable of winning a cup. Otherwise it’s just trying to finish 14-17th so you can try and finish 14-17th again. Which is quite despiriting. |
I’d be ecstatic if we finished 17th, let alone 14th!
I expect the Carabao will be used to give squad players game time. And I’m OK with that! |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:52 - Aug 10 with 2415 views | andyblue231 |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:48 - Aug 10 by unstableblue |
I’d be ecstatic if we finished 17th, let alone 14th!
I expect the Carabao will be used to give squad players game time. And I’m OK with that! |
I can forgive it for this season but ultimately the point is to win things.
Seeing teams like Fulham and Brentford sitting in mid table and resting players in the cup when they have about a 2% chance of relegation is the epitome of modern football.
At some point you have to use the period when you’re doing well to win things. Because the good times will end even for Brighton Brentford etc. and you’ll need the glory days to keep you warm. | | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:54 - Aug 10 with 2375 views | bartyg |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:52 - Aug 10 by andyblue231 |
I can forgive it for this season but ultimately the point is to win things.
Seeing teams like Fulham and Brentford sitting in mid table and resting players in the cup when they have about a 2% chance of relegation is the epitome of modern football.
At some point you have to use the period when you’re doing well to win things. Because the good times will end even for Brighton Brentford etc. and you’ll need the glory days to keep you warm. |
Idk, a injury to a key player or two and suddenly the chances look a lot higher. |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:59 - Aug 10 with 2332 views | andyblue231 |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:54 - Aug 10 by bartyg |
Idk, a injury to a key player or two and suddenly the chances look a lot higher. |
I mean by the time the FA cup comes around these teams are already a dozen points above the relegation zone. But out come the reserves again.
Ultimately what is the point of football? I swear we are sucking the life out of it.
I’d rather win the FA Cup then get relegated to league one than sit 14th in the PL for a decade. Then you build the project again with memories in the bank. [Post edited 10 Aug 20:00]
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:05 - Aug 10 with 2242 views | RonFearonsHair |
McKenna's comeback 3-2 win over O'Neil's Wolves was quite entertaining. |  | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:06 - Aug 10 with 2222 views | Meadowlark |
Not just McKenna. All of our recent managers - except Keane??
Although I kinda of understand it, it is very dispiriting to go all the way to say Bromley on a Tuesday night and watch a reserve team who don't know each other and aren't really interested. If we can be bothered to go and spend good money supporting them I expect to see the club put out a team that wants and tries to win.
A good League Cup run is something a Premier League team should aspire to. |  | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:08 - Aug 10 with 2200 views | andyblue231 |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:06 - Aug 10 by Meadowlark |
Not just McKenna. All of our recent managers - except Keane??
Although I kinda of understand it, it is very dispiriting to go all the way to say Bromley on a Tuesday night and watch a reserve team who don't know each other and aren't really interested. If we can be bothered to go and spend good money supporting them I expect to see the club put out a team that wants and tries to win.
A good League Cup run is something a Premier League team should aspire to. |
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Palace Wigan Portsmouth Leicester have all won cups in the modern era. No reason it can’t be us. Imagine that. | | | |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:20 - Aug 10 with 2094 views | jas0999 |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:44 - Aug 10 by andyblue231 |
For me the main reason for being in the premier league is be able to build a squad capable of winning a cup. Otherwise it’s just trying to finish 14-17th so you can try and finish 14-17th again. Which is quite despiriting. |
If we can’t beat a league one team at home … | | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:23 - Aug 10 with 2045 views | NthQldITFC |
Sidles up to 'em and flashes his teeth. |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:26 - Aug 10 with 2035 views | backwaywhen |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:20 - Aug 10 by jas0999 |
If we can’t beat a league one team at home … |
But …but we always lose to lower league opponents ? | | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:33 - Aug 10 with 1972 views | RIPbobby |
Different situation at home as no travelling is involved. KM didn't get many home cup games. |  | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:38 - Aug 10 with 1946 views | chicoazul |
I’d be happy to basically play kids or whatever in the FA Cup but not the League Cup as I reckon we have a decent shout with it |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:39 - Aug 10 with 1936 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
I seem to recall a Gary O’Neil Wolves side throwing away a lead to lose a Carabao Cup game to Championship opposition one season… |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:47 - Aug 10 with 1889 views | BlueBoots |
To answer the question in the OP - reaching the semi-finals of both the Conference League and French Cup while at Strasbourg last season isn't too shabby... |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 21:22 - Aug 10 with 1728 views | Ftnfwest |
Under McKenna we were cup kings in comparison to the MM and Lambert days. Although the latter did win some European thing once apparently |  | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 21:30 - Aug 10 with 1678 views | Yppswyche |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:38 - Aug 10 by chicoazul |
I’d be happy to basically play kids or whatever in the FA Cup but not the League Cup as I reckon we have a decent shout with it |
Exactly, we need the League cup for the full set in the cabinet |  | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 21:31 - Aug 10 with 1667 views | olimar |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:38 - Aug 10 by chicoazul |
I’d be happy to basically play kids or whatever in the FA Cup but not the League Cup as I reckon we have a decent shout with it |
As much as teams care less about the League Cup, the bigger clubs are probably under more pressure these days to get a strong team out for the FA Cup. They can probably coast through the early european rounds and then sharpen up for the later stages of the League Cup coming up to xmas, whereas for FA Cup, a lot of the rounds are right alongside the knock out rounds in Europe and with the league getting serious and players tiring. | | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 21:59 - Aug 10 with 1551 views | Rocky |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 21:22 - Aug 10 by Ftnfwest |
Under McKenna we were cup kings in comparison to the MM and Lambert days. Although the latter did win some European thing once apparently |
He should have said. |  | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 22:07 - Aug 10 with 1517 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 20:47 - Aug 10 by BlueBoots |
To answer the question in the OP - reaching the semi-finals of both the Conference League and French Cup while at Strasbourg last season isn't too shabby... |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 00:10 - Aug 11 with 1287 views | eirannach_gorm |
I think that that we probably should put out a slightly weaker side for cups, the historical approach of saving the first team and picking the kit man and cleaning staff was counter productive! There is a happy medium that maximises our league survival while protecting it. Team continuity is more crucial but giving peripheral players an oppertunity to shine. It's a tough balance but we have been ridiculously conservative in the past. Maybe focus on one cup and sacrifice anything else. A good cup run would be good for team morale. It's not like our previous strategy has given us any benefit in the league. | | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 07:20 - Aug 11 with 968 views | Bluemike31 |
Winning breeds confidence within the squad, only a fool goes into any game not trying to win it, that is what a Manager is paid for after all and I believe GON will do exactly that. | | | |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 07:32 - Aug 11 with 926 views | Blue_Heath |
Was GON in charge when we actually won a cup game beating Wolves?
For where we are at under KM the leagues had to be priority but if somehow we can stay up then moving forward cup runs are vital.
Leicester in the Carabao is exactly the sort of game we'd lose in the cup under KM so will be interesting to see how GON fares in this one. | |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 07:44 - Aug 11 with 863 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 19:48 - Aug 10 by unstableblue |
I’d be ecstatic if we finished 17th, let alone 14th!
I expect the Carabao will be used to give squad players game time. And I’m OK with that! |
But that's all a bit "participants", isn't it? |  |
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| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 07:53 - Aug 11 with 834 views | NedPlimpton |
| Anyone know how O'Neil has approached cup competitions at previous clubs? on 00:10 - Aug 11 by eirannach_gorm |
I think that that we probably should put out a slightly weaker side for cups, the historical approach of saving the first team and picking the kit man and cleaning staff was counter productive! There is a happy medium that maximises our league survival while protecting it. Team continuity is more crucial but giving peripheral players an oppertunity to shine. It's a tough balance but we have been ridiculously conservative in the past. Maybe focus on one cup and sacrifice anything else. A good cup run would be good for team morale. It's not like our previous strategy has given us any benefit in the league. |
"it's not like our previous strategy has given us any benefit in the league"
What do you mean by this? 3 promotions in 4 years is about as successful as it gets, no? |  | | |
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