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Vinyl Set Up 16:23 - Sep 1 with 1420 viewsSamuelowen88

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Looking to get a starter vinyl setup.

Was noticing these all in one jobs that you can see for <£100. but have heard a lot of mixed reviews about sound quality, and potential to damage records.

Popped into Richer Sounds, and they recommended a set up of 3 separate entities, turntable, amp and speakers coming in around £350.

For someone that doesn't know how much they will use the set up, is it worth the larger initial investment? Are the cheap all in one jobs worth even trying ?

I was thinking the cheap option, but then if I use it enough I could upgrade, but would the cheap option make me less likely to upgrade as it wont sound as good?

All recommendations, thoughts greatly appreciated.

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Vinyl Set Up on 16:26 - Sep 1 with 1376 viewsZx1988

I got a decent deck from Aldi of all places, probably about five years ago, which came with a decent Audio-Technica cartridge. I paired it with a £100-odd pair of Edifier bookshelf speakers with in-built amp, and am generally happy with the output.

I'm not a massive audiophile by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm happy with what I got for the money.

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Vinyl Set Up on 16:35 - Sep 1 with 1333 viewsBelsteadCav

I got a Sony record player for £170, and then got some speakers for it. Don’t get wireless they won’t sound as good. Always get one wired up.

I’m not sure if you need the Amp but if you’ve got the money then get one. I think most good record players have pre amp
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Vinyl Set Up on 16:38 - Sep 1 with 1310 viewsjasondozzell

I would go with Richer Sounds. The cheaper ones could damage your vinyl and the sound won't be anywhere near as good.

You need an amp with speakers and a separate turntable. You don't need to spend loads though.

I have a Rega Planer 1 Plus Eco turntable and mini Cambridge audio speakers with a Cambridge audio 'one' which has a built in amp.

Not too expensive but sounds great.

I think spending a little more is worth it. Plus you can then upgrade parts separately as you go if that's your thing.

Happy listening!
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Vinyl Set Up on 16:43 - Sep 1 with 1278 viewsbadadski

Vinyl Set Up on 16:35 - Sep 1 by BelsteadCav

I got a Sony record player for £170, and then got some speakers for it. Don’t get wireless they won’t sound as good. Always get one wired up.

I’m not sure if you need the Amp but if you’ve got the money then get one. I think most good record players have pre amp
[Post edited 1 Sep 16:38]


Most decent branded stuff thats even over 20 years old is usually far better than any modern equivalents. you can find plenty of old rega or Pro-ject decks and speakers floating around market place and people happy to demo for you, generally people that have purchased these in past tend to look after their equipment also. The same for amps, plenty of old pioneer or NAD amps for next to nothing on market place. as a cheeky amp for my dj set up i found a monitor audio airstream that has a built in amp, fully boxed for £50. these were released to rival sonos at the time so again plenty of bargains to be had. always happy to assist if you need help as am a massive audio and visual nerd that has purchased every copy of what hi fi and home cinema for the last decade or so, had a stint of buying and selling ex demo stuff and still spend far more than i should do on building ultimate music/ home cinema set ups for my self
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Vinyl Set Up on 16:58 - Sep 1 with 1218 viewsBrayBlue

Definitely go for separates - if you go the all-in-one route and one part fails you lose all three parts of the system.

For a good quality system that won’t break the bank I’d recommend Sony.

Cheers,
JK
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Vinyl Set Up on 16:58 - Sep 1 with 1215 viewsBelsteadCav

Vinyl Set Up on 16:43 - Sep 1 by badadski

Most decent branded stuff thats even over 20 years old is usually far better than any modern equivalents. you can find plenty of old rega or Pro-ject decks and speakers floating around market place and people happy to demo for you, generally people that have purchased these in past tend to look after their equipment also. The same for amps, plenty of old pioneer or NAD amps for next to nothing on market place. as a cheeky amp for my dj set up i found a monitor audio airstream that has a built in amp, fully boxed for £50. these were released to rival sonos at the time so again plenty of bargains to be had. always happy to assist if you need help as am a massive audio and visual nerd that has purchased every copy of what hi fi and home cinema for the last decade or so, had a stint of buying and selling ex demo stuff and still spend far more than i should do on building ultimate music/ home cinema set ups for my self


Nice one

When I upgrade I’ll give you a shout

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Vinyl Set Up on 17:01 - Sep 1 with 1193 viewsBlueBoots

Still have the type of set-up recommended to you by Richer Sounds which I purchased from them over 20 years ago, but then again I'm a bit of a Luddite.

Pro-jet turntable (Ortofon cartridge and stylus), Sony amp and Eltax speakers and despite getting a lot of use, all still going strong without any issues over the years.

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Vinyl Set Up on 17:03 - Sep 1 with 1191 viewsDubtractor

As others have said, turntable, amp plus speakers is the set up you want really.

Don't need to spend huge amounts. Have a look on eBay for a decent second hand amp with a phono input. Brands like denon, NAD, technics etc are all good.

One of those all in one units just won't do justice to the sound.

I actually have a Pro-ject essential ii turntable (in perfect condition) that I'd be happy to sell for £80 if you're interested (and local to Ipswich!).

https://www.whathifi.com/pro-j

The one I have is black.
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Vinyl Set Up on 17:16 - Sep 1 with 1157 viewsPortmanteauxcurling

I'd recommend that you avoid going here.





Seriously, there's some good advice from the hive as it's a bit of a minefield and good luck for finding something you'll be happy with.
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Vinyl Set Up on 17:29 - Sep 1 with 1071 viewsbrogansnose

The Richers Sounds set up for 350 is very reasonable. Definately separates is the way to go. An all in one set up for less than 100 would be no where near near in terms of quality.
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Vinyl Set Up on 18:04 - Sep 1 with 962 viewsfactual_blue

I'd recommend the following set-up

Marten Coltrane Supreme Extreme Speakers

Goldmund Telos 690 Integrated Amplifier

Esoteric Grandioso Turntable with a Dynavector XV Ultima Low Output MC Cartridge
Oh, and of course Shunyata Omega Phono Interconnect cables

All available from Anagram Audio in BSE.

This lot may cost you in the region of £1,015,440 though, which I'm sure is within budget.

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:07 - Sep 1 with 956 viewsSamuelowen88

Thanks all for the advice.

The 3 separate is obviously the better option. Was just hoping to save some money, especially not knowing how much it will get used. (Gift for the wife + some favorite albums)

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:07 - Sep 1 with 953 viewschicoazul

Richer Sounds are one of the best capitalistic institutions in the Uk so I’d just go with whatever they recommend.

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:10 - Sep 1 with 938 viewsSamuelowen88

Vinyl Set Up on 17:29 - Sep 1 by brogansnose

The Richers Sounds set up for 350 is very reasonable. Definately separates is the way to go. An all in one set up for less than 100 would be no where near near in terms of quality.


Yeah so I went in and spoke to them and they were very honest (I think) and helpful.

They advised the £350 set up

Denon DP-29F (Silver), Cambridge Audio AXA25 & Wharfedale Diamond 9.0 (Black) | Stereo Amplifier with Turntable and Speakers Per Pair | Richer Sounds https://share.google/z4PPz4m87

The cheaper option I was looking at was this (although not in stock atm)

Buy Bush Classic Record Player Built-In Speakers & Bluetooth | Record players and turntables | Argos https://share.google/pnxkPK6Yq

Looking like biting the bullet and spending more is gonna be the way to go.

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:18 - Sep 1 with 903 viewsPinewoodblue

Have you considered a Crosley. Good connectability

https://www.johnlewis.com/cros

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:19 - Sep 1 with 897 viewsBlue_Heath

Vinyl Set Up on 17:03 - Sep 1 by Dubtractor

As others have said, turntable, amp plus speakers is the set up you want really.

Don't need to spend huge amounts. Have a look on eBay for a decent second hand amp with a phono input. Brands like denon, NAD, technics etc are all good.

One of those all in one units just won't do justice to the sound.

I actually have a Pro-ject essential ii turntable (in perfect condition) that I'd be happy to sell for £80 if you're interested (and local to Ipswich!).

https://www.whathifi.com/pro-j

The one I have is black.
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Agree, although not heard of demon, denon is very good :-)

Do a bit of research and go for some tried and tested old school equipment e.g. dual or pioneer turntable, nad or denon amp and some decent speakers.

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:21 - Sep 1 with 881 viewsDubtractor

Vinyl Set Up on 18:19 - Sep 1 by Blue_Heath

Agree, although not heard of demon, denon is very good :-)

Do a bit of research and go for some tried and tested old school equipment e.g. dual or pioneer turntable, nad or denon amp and some decent speakers.


Ha. Damn autocorrect!

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:24 - Sep 1 with 870 viewsBlue_Heath

Vinyl Set Up on 18:21 - Sep 1 by Dubtractor

Ha. Damn autocorrect!


Been there myself many a time, that and fat fingers!

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:32 - Sep 1 with 835 viewsSamuelowen88

Vinyl Set Up on 18:18 - Sep 1 by Pinewoodblue

Have you considered a Crosley. Good connectability

https://www.johnlewis.com/cros


I had looked at these but are of the type, and was what I was going to get, but have been warned they don't have great sound quality, and can damage records.

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Vinyl Set Up on 18:40 - Sep 1 with 810 viewsMisterBlue

As a newbie you could get away without having an amp if you go with active speakers.

Audio-Technica and Sony both do decent beginners turntables. And as per a previous post go with wired speakers if you can.

https://www.audio-technica.com

https://www.audio-technica.com
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Vinyl Set Up on 19:04 - Sep 1 with 743 viewsbrogansnose

Vinyl Set Up on 18:10 - Sep 1 by Samuelowen88

Yeah so I went in and spoke to them and they were very honest (I think) and helpful.

They advised the £350 set up

Denon DP-29F (Silver), Cambridge Audio AXA25 & Wharfedale Diamond 9.0 (Black) | Stereo Amplifier with Turntable and Speakers Per Pair | Richer Sounds https://share.google/z4PPz4m87

The cheaper option I was looking at was this (although not in stock atm)

Buy Bush Classic Record Player Built-In Speakers & Bluetooth | Record players and turntables | Argos https://share.google/pnxkPK6Yq

Looking like biting the bullet and spending more is gonna be the way to go.


That Richer Sounds offer is , for the price, a bit of a snip. When I got my system from them they let me bring in a selection of music- they had a designated room in the old BSE shop for this purpose- to try out different speakers. Denon is a good make which is what mine is mostly made up of and its lasted years and still sounds great even against my Sonos.


I'm sure it'll give you loads of enjoyment.
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Vinyl Set Up on 19:17 - Sep 1 with 704 viewsWeWereZombies

It isn't just your albums that cheap audio options can damage - consider the even greater cost of damage to your hearing. The separates should deliver a cleaner sound and save you straining to pick out the detail in a piece of music, even if you are doing that sub-consciously without realising it.

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Vinyl Set Up on 21:13 - Sep 1 with 518 viewslurcher

Vinyl Set Up on 18:18 - Sep 1 by Pinewoodblue

Have you considered a Crosley. Good connectability

https://www.johnlewis.com/cros


Crosley are awful, they damage records.
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