| "gross negligence" 17:30 - Sep 1 with 2433 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Genuine question, what do you want the club to do?
As things stand, without Flemming, we have a squad of 26 players (plus 2 U21's) with Flemming coming in, we have 27. Ogbene expected to be confirmed out, leaves us with 26. If we don't register Button, that leaves us on 25.
Mehmeti doesn't want to go; Taylor is injured and the rumoured interest in Palmer never materialised.
Mehmeti probably worth £7m; Taylor £10m; Palmer £3m Which of those do you want the club to release on a free or which of our other players do you want sold to make room? Because unless we get an inexperienced U21 player in, that's the only way that we sign anyone else. |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:33 - Sep 1 with 1929 views | IpswichBlue18 |
We aren’t signing anyone else, so what’s the issue? |  | | |
| "gross negligence" on 17:33 - Sep 1 with 1901 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| "gross negligence" on 17:33 - Sep 1 by IpswichBlue18 |
We aren’t signing anyone else, so what’s the issue? |
That's kind of my point. | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:34 - Sep 1 with 1884 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It's their job to manage this in some respects, there really isn't a world where we should end up with a 10M new keeper and Walton + Palmer tbh.
I don't think it's unfair to say we have an incredibly exciting and ambitious window with some great signings but also to be a little concerned about the lack of resources put into the backline after our 2024 season. |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:35 - Sep 1 with 1832 views | pointofblue |
I think it might be time to get tough with Mehmeti and say if he doesn't move then he won't get any football for the first part of the season. Harsh, but players soon put their parts on when they no longer want to be part of the club (Alvarez, Fernandez, Mateta, Watkins). It may be too late now, as anyone who would have been interested could have moved on, but income from his sale may have helped us bring someone else in.
I'm astounded no one has bid for Palmer, to be honest. If he doesn't leave, is he really going to be our number three behind Walton? |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:36 - Sep 1 with 1813 views | FrimleyBlue |
I guess you could say Signing Akpom and Kipre on obligations was a bit daft
buying mcateer when he wasn't really better than ogbene and then we're stuck with him on prem wages now too whilst we've also had to get rid of ogbene again this week
But apart from that
The question I guess that will come of it if things don't go to plan
Was spending what we did on the transfer and wages of Palacios worth potentially deals of a few more players in other positions when we had other CM's in the building but didn't really have any fullback covers, RW cover or top quality striker options
Always going to be a discussion point when there's gaps to bridge, just part of it all
As long as we get Flemming, im happy enough, would have liked some other options in other places. but i'd be happy enough until Jan
If we dont get a striker by tonight, it's then i'd feel really annoyed, but I do appreciate other people's thoughts on it all |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:37 - Sep 1 with 1784 views | Zx1988 |
Why do we have to give the players away on free transfers? Just because we opt not to register them in the 25-man squad does not mean that they must be disposed of. | |
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| Ashton spoke a lot.... on 17:37 - Sep 1 with 1782 views | Bloots |
....about "player trading", he said how important it was. Obviously that involves selling as well as buying.
Buying is easy when you've got "a flipping great wad of cash" behind you. Buying excites people, selling doesn't but it's just as important.
Our efforts at selling (with a few exceptions) has generally been poor during Ashton's tenure, as proven again in this transfer window. |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:39 - Sep 1 with 1716 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| "gross negligence" on 17:37 - Sep 1 by Zx1988 |
Why do we have to give the players away on free transfers? Just because we opt not to register them in the 25-man squad does not mean that they must be disposed of. |
No. It doesn't but their value then plummets as does their fitness. | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:39 - Sep 1 with 1713 views | FrimleyBlue |
| "gross negligence" on 17:34 - Sep 1 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It's their job to manage this in some respects, there really isn't a world where we should end up with a 10M new keeper and Walton + Palmer tbh.
I don't think it's unfair to say we have an incredibly exciting and ambitious window with some great signings but also to be a little concerned about the lack of resources put into the backline after our 2024 season. |
Even stranger tho is the keeper we signed then loaned out said he doesn't know what his future is. | |
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| Ashton spoke a lot.... on 17:39 - Sep 1 with 1720 views | Zx1988 |
| Ashton spoke a lot.... on 17:37 - Sep 1 by Bloots |
....about "player trading", he said how important it was. Obviously that involves selling as well as buying.
Buying is easy when you've got "a flipping great wad of cash" behind you. Buying excites people, selling doesn't but it's just as important.
Our efforts at selling (with a few exceptions) has generally been poor during Ashton's tenure, as proven again in this transfer window. |
I know it's not the fashionable thing to refer to, but I'm sure this has been one of the criticisms levelled at Ashton by fans of his former clubs - the fact that they ended up with squads full of players on inflated wages, who simply couldn't be moved on. | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 with 1692 views | MK1 |
Taylor worth £10M ? |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 with 1664 views | bsw72 |
| "gross negligence" on 17:37 - Sep 1 by Zx1988 |
Why do we have to give the players away on free transfers? Just because we opt not to register them in the 25-man squad does not mean that they must be disposed of. |
I would like to think because we are not just thinking about our balance sheet, but are considering what is best for those players if they do not have an immediate career at Portman Road.
It's the right thing to do morally - we are not Chelsea.
EDIT: I will add that if the club felt they had an option to sign the right defender, then they would have made a decision to cut a player, but leaving players to rot doesnt' sit right with me. [Post edited 1 Sep 17:44]
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| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 with 1649 views | IpswichBlue18 |
| "gross negligence" on 17:33 - Sep 1 by Cheltenham_Blue |
That's kind of my point. |
Yes, I know. But the fact we aren’t signing anyone else won’t be because of numbers. I have no doubt if there was someone available to sign to improve us we would, any players not deemed necessary would just harshly be left out the registered 25 if they were unwilling to leave | | | |
| "gross negligence" on 17:42 - Sep 1 with 1598 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 by MK1 |
Taylor worth £10M ? |
I'd say so. Certainly the figure that Brum were being associated with. | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:42 - Sep 1 with 1586 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| "gross negligence" on 17:39 - Sep 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Even stranger tho is the keeper we signed then loaned out said he doesn't know what his future is. |
Nope, I like that if he's got huge upside. I don't like paying whatever Palmer is on as a third choice keeper + squad place. | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:43 - Sep 1 with 1574 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 by IpswichBlue18 |
Yes, I know. But the fact we aren’t signing anyone else won’t be because of numbers. I have no doubt if there was someone available to sign to improve us we would, any players not deemed necessary would just harshly be left out the registered 25 if they were unwilling to leave |
I don't think we are the kind of club to do that to players. | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:43 - Sep 1 with 1572 views | NthQldITFC |
I've just ordered 144 of these on your recommendation. All in my size. Think I'll be satisfied for most of the season.
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| "gross negligence" on 17:43 - Sep 1 with 1551 views | Guthrum |
| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 by MK1 |
Taylor worth £10M ? |
A player with experience in the Prem, full international, with two Champ promotions on his CV? In this day and age £10m is not at all far fetched. |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:47 - Sep 1 with 1462 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 by IpswichBlue18 |
Yes, I know. But the fact we aren’t signing anyone else won’t be because of numbers. I have no doubt if there was someone available to sign to improve us we would, any players not deemed necessary would just harshly be left out the registered 25 if they were unwilling to leave |
Agree.
The balance just feels a bit off!
I'd have preferred Mendy LCB and going for two CMs and then trying to loan one late I think but again it's such a tough balance, we have opted for 50M in CM and I certainly won't begrudge them staying patient with getting Palacios.
I also thing in terms of getting players out we are still paying for some of the average recruitment of the last couple years. [Post edited 1 Sep 17:50]
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| "gross negligence" on 17:48 - Sep 1 with 1457 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| "gross negligence" on 17:43 - Sep 1 by NthQldITFC |
I've just ordered 144 of these on your recommendation. All in my size. Think I'll be satisfied for most of the season.
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Would have thought you would go for something a bit more sheer and lacy | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:48 - Sep 1 with 1446 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| "gross negligence" on 17:43 - Sep 1 by Guthrum |
A player with experience in the Prem, full international, with two Champ promotions on his CV? In this day and age £10m is not at all far fetched. |
Ireland international** | |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:49 - Sep 1 with 1422 views | Zx1988 |
| "gross negligence" on 17:40 - Sep 1 by bsw72 |
I would like to think because we are not just thinking about our balance sheet, but are considering what is best for those players if they do not have an immediate career at Portman Road.
It's the right thing to do morally - we are not Chelsea.
EDIT: I will add that if the club felt they had an option to sign the right defender, then they would have made a decision to cut a player, but leaving players to rot doesnt' sit right with me. [Post edited 1 Sep 17:44]
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I'm not sure anyone is being left to rot.
Take Mehmeti for example. The club accepted offers for him, and he's free to move on if he wants.
He'll be fully aware of the consequences of 'staying to fight for his place' - he has a decision to make regarding whether he wants to not be in the squad, and collect his pay-cheque in return for training every day, or whether he wants to go elsewhere and actually play football.
I don't think there's anything immoral in saying to him "there's no first team football for you here this season, so you're free to leave". | |
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| Ashton spoke a lot.... on 17:50 - Sep 1 with 1364 views | Garv |
| Ashton spoke a lot.... on 17:39 - Sep 1 by Zx1988 |
I know it's not the fashionable thing to refer to, but I'm sure this has been one of the criticisms levelled at Ashton by fans of his former clubs - the fact that they ended up with squads full of players on inflated wages, who simply couldn't be moved on. |
I thought one of the criticisms was that he tended to sell his best players. |  |
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| "gross negligence" on 17:51 - Sep 1 with 1346 views | PhilTWTD |
If Town were desperate to add another player, then they would presumably just not register someone. Harsh on whoever it would be, but it wouldn't be the first time it's happened. |  | | |
| "gross negligence" on 17:53 - Sep 1 with 1262 views | MK1 |
| "gross negligence" on 17:42 - Sep 1 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I'd say so. Certainly the figure that Brum were being associated with. |
Wow. I am so out of touch. I would happily accept £4-5M for him. Crazy prices for bang average players these days. I like Taylor, but £10M seems bonkers to me. | |
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