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To paraphrase: "I may have to pay a political price, but I'm going to do these things that our country needs."
Cue the usual, fossilised cynicism from both sides of the spectrum, but I have a good feeling about this bloke.
It won't be possible to achieve everything, but I'd rather someone took a political risk and gave it a bloody good go - there's no point pissing around with an eye on five years time, we need some fundamental change based on all of us, first of all, providing a solid, social base, and developing responsibly from there where possible.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
82% - 92% on Water 76% - 86 % on Railways 70% - 82 % on Electricity 76% - 86% on Royal Mail 67% - 79% on Buses
Interesting you typed in Royal Mail. I’ve just done a Victor Meldrew to the local MP about that shower.
The service here has basically collapsed. It’s a disgrace. We were away for two weeks and the only post delivered in that time was a day after we got home. People are being told there will be no second class delivery for the foreseeable. It’ll be dumped in a sorting office. Profit making parcels are priority.
RM is costly, totally unreliable and run into the ground. The staff they haven’t binned yet are demotivated (conversation with a golf acquaintance and the chap that delivered a parcel the other day)
A lot of medical info and other important stuff is delivered by RM. As is some correspondence. As exec to my brother in law’s will not all ot the stuff could be dealt with electronically. For people who are not IT literate they are being cut off.
This is a public ffing service and quite frankly, flogging it off had everything to do with ££ for the few and zippo for everyone else. Britain: the society that literally ate itself.
Apologies for the random rant.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:45 - Oct 4 with 1442 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:38 - Oct 4 by Churchman
Interesting you typed in Royal Mail. I’ve just done a Victor Meldrew to the local MP about that shower.
The service here has basically collapsed. It’s a disgrace. We were away for two weeks and the only post delivered in that time was a day after we got home. People are being told there will be no second class delivery for the foreseeable. It’ll be dumped in a sorting office. Profit making parcels are priority.
RM is costly, totally unreliable and run into the ground. The staff they haven’t binned yet are demotivated (conversation with a golf acquaintance and the chap that delivered a parcel the other day)
A lot of medical info and other important stuff is delivered by RM. As is some correspondence. As exec to my brother in law’s will not all ot the stuff could be dealt with electronically. For people who are not IT literate they are being cut off.
This is a public ffing service and quite frankly, flogging it off had everything to do with ££ for the few and zippo for everyone else. Britain: the society that literally ate itself.
Apologies for the random rant.
Maybe people just don’t want to send you things .
Our service is fine and our local postie great. He’s long/timer and well known and liked about the village. It’ll be sad when that goes, which is looking increasingly likely. You do hear plenty of complains though. Bloody expensive for a stamp nowadays too.
Royal Mail seem to be getting more parcel delivery jobs these days which may help them; and they are infinitely better than the Herberts who turn up in unmarked cars and throw your parcel over your fence.
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:38 - Oct 4 by Churchman
Interesting you typed in Royal Mail. I’ve just done a Victor Meldrew to the local MP about that shower.
The service here has basically collapsed. It’s a disgrace. We were away for two weeks and the only post delivered in that time was a day after we got home. People are being told there will be no second class delivery for the foreseeable. It’ll be dumped in a sorting office. Profit making parcels are priority.
RM is costly, totally unreliable and run into the ground. The staff they haven’t binned yet are demotivated (conversation with a golf acquaintance and the chap that delivered a parcel the other day)
A lot of medical info and other important stuff is delivered by RM. As is some correspondence. As exec to my brother in law’s will not all ot the stuff could be dealt with electronically. For people who are not IT literate they are being cut off.
This is a public ffing service and quite frankly, flogging it off had everything to do with ££ for the few and zippo for everyone else. Britain: the society that literally ate itself.
Apologies for the random rant.
There is a local meeting about it here. I am quite certain they are only delivering to me once a week. I get nothing for a week or two at a time, then curiously 3 or 4 things on the same day, bound with a rubber band...
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:45 - Oct 4 by Swansea_Blue
Maybe people just don’t want to send you things .
Our service is fine and our local postie great. He’s long/timer and well known and liked about the village. It’ll be sad when that goes, which is looking increasingly likely. You do hear plenty of complains though. Bloody expensive for a stamp nowadays too.
Royal Mail seem to be getting more parcel delivery jobs these days which may help them; and they are infinitely better than the Herberts who turn up in unmarked cars and throw your parcel over your fence.
Line one: yeah, you’re probably right. I wouldn’t want to send me anything!?
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 09:52 - Oct 5 with 1226 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:38 - Oct 4 by Churchman
Interesting you typed in Royal Mail. I’ve just done a Victor Meldrew to the local MP about that shower.
The service here has basically collapsed. It’s a disgrace. We were away for two weeks and the only post delivered in that time was a day after we got home. People are being told there will be no second class delivery for the foreseeable. It’ll be dumped in a sorting office. Profit making parcels are priority.
RM is costly, totally unreliable and run into the ground. The staff they haven’t binned yet are demotivated (conversation with a golf acquaintance and the chap that delivered a parcel the other day)
A lot of medical info and other important stuff is delivered by RM. As is some correspondence. As exec to my brother in law’s will not all ot the stuff could be dealt with electronically. For people who are not IT literate they are being cut off.
This is a public ffing service and quite frankly, flogging it off had everything to do with ££ for the few and zippo for everyone else. Britain: the society that literally ate itself.
Apologies for the random rant.
Until a year ago, Royal Mail was the only truly reliable courier in this part of rural N. Yorkshire.
Now - no cover for the single regular postie, so if he’s off sick or on holiday - no post.
Birthday card sent 2nd class by friend still not arrived over a year later.
NHS bizarrely still refuses to use email for appointments, diagnoses, test results, send 2nd class, take a month to arrive, by which time appt date is often past, then they complain about patients missing appointments which costs the NHS over £100 per appointment.
The winning Labour candidate's speech was very powerful but this was the highlight for me.
"This moment means something deeply personal to me, to represent the place that gave me a home and my family.
A home gave me opportunity and helped me shape and help shape the person I am today.
Camden gave me a community and instilled in me a belief in social justice, inequality [sic] and in fairness, and to now have the privilege of representing this same community in parliament is something that I will carry with enormous pride and humility.
I hope this moment also says something about who gets to belong.
For people who look like me, I hope they see themselves reflected in this place and know that they, their path too belongs here. This is Camden and this is Britain."
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 08:20 - Oct 9 with 917 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 08:16 - Oct 9 by DJR
The winning Labour candidate's speech was very powerful but this was the highlight for me.
"This moment means something deeply personal to me, to represent the place that gave me a home and my family.
A home gave me opportunity and helped me shape and help shape the person I am today.
Camden gave me a community and instilled in me a belief in social justice, inequality [sic] and in fairness, and to now have the privilege of representing this same community in parliament is something that I will carry with enormous pride and humility.
I hope this moment also says something about who gets to belong.
For people who look like me, I hope they see themselves reflected in this place and know that they, their path too belongs here. This is Camden and this is Britain."
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I noted on a Facebook story earlier, that the people who are usually furious about immigrants not integrating into our culture, are furious about an immigrant integrating into our culture.
I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 09:52 - Oct 5 by Ryorry
Until a year ago, Royal Mail was the only truly reliable courier in this part of rural N. Yorkshire.
Now - no cover for the single regular postie, so if he’s off sick or on holiday - no post.
Birthday card sent 2nd class by friend still not arrived over a year later.
NHS bizarrely still refuses to use email for appointments, diagnoses, test results, send 2nd class, take a month to arrive, by which time appt date is often past, then they complain about patients missing appointments which costs the NHS over £100 per appointment.
Just a note on that last bit Ryorry, whilst not quite the same, the NHS app has basically all of that.
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 08:16 - Oct 9 by DJR
The winning Labour candidate's speech was very powerful but this was the highlight for me.
"This moment means something deeply personal to me, to represent the place that gave me a home and my family.
A home gave me opportunity and helped me shape and help shape the person I am today.
Camden gave me a community and instilled in me a belief in social justice, inequality [sic] and in fairness, and to now have the privilege of representing this same community in parliament is something that I will carry with enormous pride and humility.
I hope this moment also says something about who gets to belong.
For people who look like me, I hope they see themselves reflected in this place and know that they, their path too belongs here. This is Camden and this is Britain."
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Although I have been critical of identity politics before, I do agree with much of that.
However, Camden is an almost exceptionally unique seat. I travel into the city for work and the contrast between where I live and the areas I travel through is quite incredible.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:11 - Oct 9 with 682 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 10:20 - Oct 9 by balcombeblue
Although I have been critical of identity politics before, I do agree with much of that.
However, Camden is an almost exceptionally unique seat. I travel into the city for work and the contrast between where I live and the areas I travel through is quite incredible.
The fact that someone as politically savvy as me had to look up what "identity politics suggests that the same is true of the vast majority of people in this country who are just getting on with their lives.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:17 - Oct 9 with 658 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 15:00 - Sep 29 by J2BLUE
Very good speech with lots of positives if he can back them up.
Slightly disappointed by the triple lock. Don't think it goes far enough. Should just be linked to inflation.
Hopefully he will end with a jump to the personal allowance. I've whinged about CGT in the past but if he funds a boost to the personal allowance with higher CGT I would be happy with that. Need to get the economy going.
Many huge problems facing this country were not addressed, such as borrowing, immigration and how to get the economy moving. Whether people like it or not without those that create wealth those that take benefits from the system wouldn't get paid. Wages are paid by those creating wealth and in turn those wages generate tax and spending whether that is direct taxation via PAYE or VAT and taxes on goods. The number of people legally or illegally coming into the UK cannot be sustained. The fact that Labour claims the amount illegally coming in has reduced by 40% still means 60% are coming in and many of those already here are not processed and those that fail aren't returned to their country of origin even if it is not war torn. As a pensioner because I receive a company pension I still pay a lot of tax and believe me my income isn't huge. No more than a person able to claim Universal credit and the higher level of PIP's. I have no problem with a government doing away with the Triple Lock. But the cuts have to come across the board and not just aimed at the older generation. I am a fair person when it comes to how money is distributed and those genuinely requiring help should be helped.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:37 - Oct 9 with 604 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:17 - Oct 9 by OldFart71
Many huge problems facing this country were not addressed, such as borrowing, immigration and how to get the economy moving. Whether people like it or not without those that create wealth those that take benefits from the system wouldn't get paid. Wages are paid by those creating wealth and in turn those wages generate tax and spending whether that is direct taxation via PAYE or VAT and taxes on goods. The number of people legally or illegally coming into the UK cannot be sustained. The fact that Labour claims the amount illegally coming in has reduced by 40% still means 60% are coming in and many of those already here are not processed and those that fail aren't returned to their country of origin even if it is not war torn. As a pensioner because I receive a company pension I still pay a lot of tax and believe me my income isn't huge. No more than a person able to claim Universal credit and the higher level of PIP's. I have no problem with a government doing away with the Triple Lock. But the cuts have to come across the board and not just aimed at the older generation. I am a fair person when it comes to how money is distributed and those genuinely requiring help should be helped.
"The fact that Labour claims the amount illegally coming in has reduced by 40% still means 60% are coming in"
eh? I can't get my head around this statement! I'm no maths expert but that doesn't make any sense to me.
Also, I very much doubt your income from a company pension is "no more than a person able to claim Universal credit". Do you actually know how much a person is able to claim on Universal Credit?
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:11 - Oct 9 by DJR
The fact that someone as politically savvy as me had to look up what "identity politics suggests that the same is true of the vast majority of people in this country who are just getting on with their lives.
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Absolutely! Getting on with their lives, their neighbours and their colleagues.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 12:09 - Oct 9 with 537 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:11 - Oct 9 by DJR
The fact that someone as politically savvy as me had to look up what "identity politics suggests that the same is true of the vast majority of people in this country who are just getting on with their lives.
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Regarding more interesting news (e.g. the budget), I recommend listening to Brillo's excellent podcast with a DB economist.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 12:17 - Oct 9 with 520 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 11:17 - Oct 9 by OldFart71
Many huge problems facing this country were not addressed, such as borrowing, immigration and how to get the economy moving. Whether people like it or not without those that create wealth those that take benefits from the system wouldn't get paid. Wages are paid by those creating wealth and in turn those wages generate tax and spending whether that is direct taxation via PAYE or VAT and taxes on goods. The number of people legally or illegally coming into the UK cannot be sustained. The fact that Labour claims the amount illegally coming in has reduced by 40% still means 60% are coming in and many of those already here are not processed and those that fail aren't returned to their country of origin even if it is not war torn. As a pensioner because I receive a company pension I still pay a lot of tax and believe me my income isn't huge. No more than a person able to claim Universal credit and the higher level of PIP's. I have no problem with a government doing away with the Triple Lock. But the cuts have to come across the board and not just aimed at the older generation. I am a fair person when it comes to how money is distributed and those genuinely requiring help should be helped.
Your three issues from your opening sentence were addressed at various times during his speech, this from early on tackles all three very succinctly:
'Economic control diminished by selling off essentials. Political control corroded by the hollowing out of councils. Immigration control weakened by Brexit.'
There's more:
'More control of the basics so that we can make it more functional. More power in the hands of people and places to set their own ambitions. And from there, good growth in every postcode, hope in every heart.'
'Businesses need the basics to be functional and affordable too, as does the wider economy. As someone said to me recently, there’s a reason why you can’t build all over the Water Works and the Electric Company on the Monopoly board.
One of the biggest barriers to growth in the UK is the cost of energy. British businesses and billpayers pay some of the highest energy costs in Europe.
Within 10 years, I want those costs to be in line with our neighbours.'
'But it’s not just the price. The system needs to work better too. You would not believe how many businesses complain to me they can’t get going because they can’t get connected to the grid.
It pushes costs up. It drags growth down. And it holds Britain back. We won’t get the growth and inward investment we need if we don’t fix it.
So, for the first time, we will have a national energy plan and we will bring back local democratic control through a stronger role for mayors and local leaders.
But we must go further. Today I can announce our plan for Great British Grid. A new branch of Great British Energy. A publicly-owned company that will challenge the private sector operators.
It will increase competition, drive down costs and speed up connections so businesses can expand and grow more quickly.'
'If we get energy bills down, we will better control inflation and support the economy.
If we change the way we support people, we will get more people into work and the welfare bill down. '
'Support has been cut away from young and old. And that leaves the country paying for failure on a grand scale.
Almost a million young people not working or learning. Thousands of older people stuck in hospital because of the lack of good home care.
We can’t afford to carry on like this.'
'I have a theory of growth.
It starts by retaking control of the essentials that make a place work or not.
You’ve got to have that control over the fundamental things that everybody needs.
And from there you devolve more power to places to put them in charge and decide their own destiny.
And then in doing those things we optimise the conditions for businesses to grow.'
'Brexit hasn’t given us control.
We’ve lost some of the control we had over our economy, as a decade of low growth has put us in a weaker position.
And we’ve lost some of our control over immigration.
At its most fundamental level, this is a debate about fairness.
So I understand the anger about what is happening in the Channel.
Shabana has done a great job in beginning to restore our grip over the system.
People arriving on small boats down 40% on the last year, 50% from the early 2020s.
Net migration down more than 80% since the peak of the Boris Johnson era.'
'Later this year, there will be a UK-EU summit where one of the issues on the agenda will be how we best work together on immigration.
And beyond that we will work to secure gains for our industries most harmed by Brexit.'
I too am a a pensioner with some private pension topping up my state one, so I pay income tax (as well as council tax, VAT, fuel duty, road fund and probably some other things) but I don't mind that when a good agenda is in place with the promise of our four nations working together to make a better future for everyone on these islands. Your suggestion that the only thing we can do is cut and cut and cut is a terrible one, that age of austerity under the dead-eyed George Osborne propped up by the Liberal Democrats really was one where the tax take was frittered away to ill effect.
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 12:09 - Oct 9 by balcombeblue
Regarding more interesting news (e.g. the budget), I recommend listening to Brillo's excellent podcast with a DB economist.
Andrew Neil is the best political interviewer of his generation as indicated by the fact that Johnson went nowhere near him in 2019.
The interview you posted confirmed my view that the budget isn't going to scare the horses.
And my view is that a lot of what Burnham has indicated he wants to do is much further down the line, and probably dependent on resources allowing, which in turn may depend on that rather illusive growth that recent PMs have talked about.
And the commitment for defence spending to rise to 3.5% of GDP makes things even more difficult. If it were me, I wouldn't see this as a priority, not least because it is a figure plucked out of the air by Trump. but politically it's difficult for Burnham not to follow through.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 15:50 - Oct 9 with 404 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 15:10 - Oct 9 by DJR
Andrew Neil is the best political interviewer of his generation as indicated by the fact that Johnson went nowhere near him in 2019.
The interview you posted confirmed my view that the budget isn't going to scare the horses.
And my view is that a lot of what Burnham has indicated he wants to do is much further down the line, and probably dependent on resources allowing, which in turn may depend on that rather illusive growth that recent PMs have talked about.
And the commitment for defence spending to rise to 3.5% of GDP makes things even more difficult. If it were me, I wouldn't see this as a priority, not least because it is a figure plucked out of the air by Trump. but politically it's difficult for Burnham not to follow through.
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Yes - It will have to be a calming budget by nature although I suspect that means increasing yields and hence cuts later in the parliament. Somewhat puts Burnham's strategy in the straight jacket.
The point about sovereign debt contagion from abroad is very relevant. France I likely to be the first to cause that panic, there structural debt issues make ours look like a chimps tea party.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 16:33 - Oct 9 with 378 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 15:50 - Oct 9 by balcombeblue
Yes - It will have to be a calming budget by nature although I suspect that means increasing yields and hence cuts later in the parliament. Somewhat puts Burnham's strategy in the straight jacket.
The point about sovereign debt contagion from abroad is very relevant. France I likely to be the first to cause that panic, there structural debt issues make ours look like a chimps tea party.
You do have to wonder if that’s why France has rapidly warmed on the UK rejoining the EU. It’s a fairly dire warning to those that say debt doesn’t matter. The ECB has to date refused any major interventions because France isn’t meeting budgetary obligations. They already have riots there, when major austerity follows it’s going to be a tinder box. The French have limited room to manoeuvre given they are in the Eurozone, so it’s likely spending cuts is their only way out of this.
In the case of the UK, borrowing costs are already past Truss levels, so I suspect why most of Burnham’s plans are over a medium term timeline. I saw our interest payments alone are forecast to hit nearly £140bn p.a by the end of the decade…
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 16:39 - Oct 9 with 366 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 16:33 - Oct 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna
You do have to wonder if that’s why France has rapidly warmed on the UK rejoining the EU. It’s a fairly dire warning to those that say debt doesn’t matter. The ECB has to date refused any major interventions because France isn’t meeting budgetary obligations. They already have riots there, when major austerity follows it’s going to be a tinder box. The French have limited room to manoeuvre given they are in the Eurozone, so it’s likely spending cuts is their only way out of this.
In the case of the UK, borrowing costs are already past Truss levels, so I suspect why most of Burnham’s plans are over a medium term timeline. I saw our interest payments alone are forecast to hit nearly £140bn p.a by the end of the decade…
More than that, rejoining with Le Pen in the Elyseé and AfD growing in Italy.
Monetary union without fiscal union is a disaster. Brillo has done a great take ok the possibility of rejoining too. It will totally sink Burnham if he tries that argument.
I don’t think many politicians (any) grasp the dire state we are in with demographics.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 17:12 - Oct 9 with 319 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 16:39 - Oct 9 by balcombeblue
More than that, rejoining with Le Pen in the Elyseé and AfD growing in Italy.
Monetary union without fiscal union is a disaster. Brillo has done a great take ok the possibility of rejoining too. It will totally sink Burnham if he tries that argument.
I don’t think many politicians (any) grasp the dire state we are in with demographics.
Throw AI into the mix and it's even worse.
We're doomed!
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 17:46 - Oct 9 with 275 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 16:39 - Oct 9 by balcombeblue
More than that, rejoining with Le Pen in the Elyseé and AfD growing in Italy.
Monetary union without fiscal union is a disaster. Brillo has done a great take ok the possibility of rejoining too. It will totally sink Burnham if he tries that argument.
I don’t think many politicians (any) grasp the dire state we are in with demographics.
think you mean Germany rather than Italy. You are right about fiscal union and monetary unions being in line with eachother would be sensible from an economic viewpoint. But fiscal union in the E.U (though often proposed) would be hard to achieve as the economies and politics of the component countries are never aligned enough.
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Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 19:28 - Oct 9 with 222 views
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 15:10 - Oct 9 by DJR
Andrew Neil is the best political interviewer of his generation as indicated by the fact that Johnson went nowhere near him in 2019.
The interview you posted confirmed my view that the budget isn't going to scare the horses.
And my view is that a lot of what Burnham has indicated he wants to do is much further down the line, and probably dependent on resources allowing, which in turn may depend on that rather illusive growth that recent PMs have talked about.
And the commitment for defence spending to rise to 3.5% of GDP makes things even more difficult. If it were me, I wouldn't see this as a priority, not least because it is a figure plucked out of the air by Trump. but politically it's difficult for Burnham not to follow through.
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He was good as an interviewer when constrained by the BBC codes, yet elsewhere has done as much as anyone in media to promote and legitimise the far right, climate change skepticism, and health conspiracy theories as anyone in his other positions. But a tough interviewer who actually challenged his ‘victims’, yes absolutely. An arsehole? Yes, absolutely.
That’s not relevant to anything being discussed here other than I wouldn’t trust his views on any platform where he wasn’t constrained by strict impartiality codes. And I feel better for getting that off my chest.
Loving Burnham's visions and promises on 17:46 - Oct 9 by mellowblue
think you mean Germany rather than Italy. You are right about fiscal union and monetary unions being in line with eachother would be sensible from an economic viewpoint. But fiscal union in the E.U (though often proposed) would be hard to achieve as the economies and politics of the component countries are never aligned enough.
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