| The unnamed celebrity scandal 23:37 - Nov 3 with 12007 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Obviously everyone knows and has known for months who it is. I’d actually heard from my man in the media about it in December 2025. It goes without saying… don’t name him as it lands Phil and the site in trouble.
What was interesting about today’s case going against him (subject to appeal) is that it’s now public knowledge he tried to kill himself twice in 2026 regarding the story being on the brink of publicity. The Telegraph first reporting their separate (yet similar story) at the end of last year wa obviously the start of it all crumbling.
Fascinating viewing. My question for TWTD and the reason for the thread is now it is established that he did actually try to kill himself twice over this and so it’s not an empty threat is the correct thing morally:
A) he stays anonymous. And the two very high level investigations from the two media teams involved take the case to the police. And only once he’s charged is he named.
B) the story of the 10+ victims is told as they wished and the media are allowed to publish what they’ve found through investigatitive journalism that first began over 2 years ago now to get to the bottom of the story. But runs the risk of him committing suicide.
What is the moral rightful outcome here?
Finally once again it’s genuinely something I’m interested in the forums opinion on and so please don’t be a t*t and get the thread pulled by naming him or subtly hinting at the person. We all know who it is - zero need to start making stupid jokes and run the risk of it being deleted before an interesting discussion can take place.
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 20:21 - Nov 4 | J2BLUE |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 19:55 - Nov 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I've heard a rumour that you poke badgers with spoons.
No smoke without fire. |
Badger's what?  |  | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 20:56 - Nov 4 | eireblue |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 20:21 - Nov 4 by J2BLUE |
Badger's what? |
Ahh, man, trust me don’t look that up on Twitter, nasty
I can’t remember where but if the rumour I read was true, yikes. |  | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 22:51 - Nov 4 | J2BLUE |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 20:56 - Nov 4 by eireblue |
Ahh, man, trust me don’t look that up on Twitter, nasty
I can’t remember where but if the rumour I read was true, yikes. |
Apparently there's no smoke without fire... | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 23:19 - Nov 4 | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 22:51 - Nov 4 by J2BLUE |
Apparently there's no smoke without fire... |
Depends how hard you rub |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:01 - Nov 10 | SitfcB |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:08 - Nov 10 | Billywitch |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:01 - Nov 10 by SitfcB |
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Grotesque human, makes my skin crawl |  | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:19 - Nov 10 | bluester |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:01 - Nov 10 by SitfcB |
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A producer i know described him as a bully. That was from working with him in the 90s. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:26 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:01 - Nov 10 by SitfcB |
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Much like Russell Brand, always the ones you least suspect… | | | |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:30 - Nov 10 | ElderGrizzly |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:26 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
Much like Russell Brand, always the ones you least suspect… |
And a three year investigation that has already gone through several rounds of legal scrutiny.
Of course, innocent until proven guilty, but the media involved here will be absolutely sure before running it. |  | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:42 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:30 - Nov 10 by ElderGrizzly |
And a three year investigation that has already gone through several rounds of legal scrutiny.
Of course, innocent until proven guilty, but the media involved here will be absolutely sure before running it. |
This one sounds utterly grim.
15y olds ffs - allegedly. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:05 - Nov 10 | DJR |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:01 - Nov 10 by SitfcB |
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The Guardian has also published the story, and this leaves a very nasty taste because it suggests others knew what was going on and could even joke about it.
"At the [2004} awards ceremony, Walliams was captured on film dressed in a black dinner jacket, seemingly utterly relaxed and enjoying himself. He threw his head back in laughter as the compere, the TV chatshow host Jonathan Ross, opened the show with a joke pointedly referencing him: “The comedy awards is 15 years old – 15 years old! And like most 15-year-olds, it’s drunk, it’s unpredictable and it’s probably going home with David Walliams.”
Ross, responding through lawyers, said he did not write the joke himself." [Post edited 10 Nov 13:13]
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:10 - Nov 10 | baxterbasics |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:05 - Nov 10 by DJR |
The Guardian has also published the story, and this leaves a very nasty taste because it suggests others knew what was going on and could even joke about it.
"At the [2004} awards ceremony, Walliams was captured on film dressed in a black dinner jacket, seemingly utterly relaxed and enjoying himself. He threw his head back in laughter as the compere, the TV chatshow host Jonathan Ross, opened the show with a joke pointedly referencing him: “The comedy awards is 15 years old – 15 years old! And like most 15-year-olds, it’s drunk, it’s unpredictable and it’s probably going home with David Walliams.”
Ross, responding through lawyers, said he did not write the joke himself." [Post edited 10 Nov 13:13]
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I almost feel sorry for Ross given he's been getting some serious 'guilt by association' flak with the two big stories of this ilk. Ok fair do's with the Andrew Sachs thing, which did have consequences for him, but I'm pretty sure there's never been any whisper of accusation or scandal with the man otherwise. (Happy to be corrected, cba to do a Google search).
Granted, a lot of people find him very annoying. |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:17 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:10 - Nov 10 by baxterbasics |
I almost feel sorry for Ross given he's been getting some serious 'guilt by association' flak with the two big stories of this ilk. Ok fair do's with the Andrew Sachs thing, which did have consequences for him, but I'm pretty sure there's never been any whisper of accusation or scandal with the man otherwise. (Happy to be corrected, cba to do a Google search).
Granted, a lot of people find him very annoying. |
Yeah - hard to imagine anybody with even half a brain would agree to that joke if they had any inclination at all of what was happening. [Post edited 10 Nov 13:18]
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:23 - Nov 10 | DJR |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:10 - Nov 10 by baxterbasics |
I almost feel sorry for Ross given he's been getting some serious 'guilt by association' flak with the two big stories of this ilk. Ok fair do's with the Andrew Sachs thing, which did have consequences for him, but I'm pretty sure there's never been any whisper of accusation or scandal with the man otherwise. (Happy to be corrected, cba to do a Google search).
Granted, a lot of people find him very annoying. |
My post wasn't designed to accuse Ross because I don't know what he knew about Walliams but it suggests some people knew what was going on.
And if no one knew, is it really an appropriate thing to joke about?
As regards Ross himself, I used to like him until his puerile and inappropriate behaviour with Brand whom I never liked. [Post edited 10 Nov 13:27]
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:25 - Nov 10 | mellowblue |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:10 - Nov 10 by baxterbasics |
I almost feel sorry for Ross given he's been getting some serious 'guilt by association' flak with the two big stories of this ilk. Ok fair do's with the Andrew Sachs thing, which did have consequences for him, but I'm pretty sure there's never been any whisper of accusation or scandal with the man otherwise. (Happy to be corrected, cba to do a Google search).
Granted, a lot of people find him very annoying. |
don't feel sorry, he's always been happy to rub along with anyone who keeps him in the limelight. He knows the score. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:27 - Nov 10 | The_Major |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:17 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
Yeah - hard to imagine anybody with even half a brain would agree to that joke if they had any inclination at all of what was happening. [Post edited 10 Nov 13:18]
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There's also that clip going around of Ross on Big Fat Quiz of the Year in about 2007 when he was on a team with Lily Allen, and insisted they swapped seats so she wasn't sitting so close to Brand and Noel Fielding. And to be honest, she did look very uncomfortable beforehand. |  | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:34 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:27 - Nov 10 by The_Major |
There's also that clip going around of Ross on Big Fat Quiz of the Year in about 2007 when he was on a team with Lily Allen, and insisted they swapped seats so she wasn't sitting so close to Brand and Noel Fielding. And to be honest, she did look very uncomfortable beforehand. |
Far be it from me to defend Jonathan Ross but I guess he’s playing to the crowd and the view at the time they were womanizers as opposed to actually committing crimes.
In the context of what we now know of Brand of course though that doesn’t look great. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:38 - Nov 10 | mellowblue |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:27 - Nov 10 by The_Major |
There's also that clip going around of Ross on Big Fat Quiz of the Year in about 2007 when he was on a team with Lily Allen, and insisted they swapped seats so she wasn't sitting so close to Brand and Noel Fielding. And to be honest, she did look very uncomfortable beforehand. |
the cult of celebrity and the wish to brag to their mates has lured in so many innocents over the years. That celebs know their power over the impressionable, suck them in and spit them out at the rate they do is truly shameful. Goes back many decades now. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:42 - Nov 10 | _CliveBaker_ |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:34 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
Far be it from me to defend Jonathan Ross but I guess he’s playing to the crowd and the view at the time they were womanizers as opposed to actually committing crimes.
In the context of what we now know of Brand of course though that doesn’t look great. |
There's also a picture in that Guardian article of Ross, Gervais, and a few others at an awards dinner where Walliams had taken an 18 year old as his guest. Legally speaking that's not a crime I guess. As you say to give JR the benefit of the doubt, you can suspect someone of being a bit of a creep, but that doesn't mean he knew of any criminality. |  | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:47 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:42 - Nov 10 by _CliveBaker_ |
There's also a picture in that Guardian article of Ross, Gervais, and a few others at an awards dinner where Walliams had taken an 18 year old as his guest. Legally speaking that's not a crime I guess. As you say to give JR the benefit of the doubt, you can suspect someone of being a bit of a creep, but that doesn't mean he knew of any criminality. |
Well indeed and with Walliams too I guess - have to presume innocence I suppose.
No doubt at all though he’s an absolutely grotesque creep if nothing else.
Harper Collins don’t come out great either. Apparently it got to the point where female colleagues weren’t allowed to be in meetings on their own with him… | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 15:01 - Nov 10 | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:47 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
Well indeed and with Walliams too I guess - have to presume innocence I suppose.
No doubt at all though he’s an absolutely grotesque creep if nothing else.
Harper Collins don’t come out great either. Apparently it got to the point where female colleagues weren’t allowed to be in meetings on their own with him… |
Indeed. Rather than keep female colleagues out of the way, why not just get rid of the perpetrator?
I think we all know the answer is money. If he wasn't making any for them he'd have been out the door. |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 15:40 - Nov 10 | Billywitch |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:17 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
Yeah - hard to imagine anybody with even half a brain would agree to that joke if they had any inclination at all of what was happening. [Post edited 10 Nov 13:18]
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I mean, do you even do that joke out loud at an awards evening regardless?
In a pub with mates is a different story, but in a room with thousands watching on TV, bit grim really isnt it | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 15:44 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 15:40 - Nov 10 by Billywitch |
I mean, do you even do that joke out loud at an awards evening regardless?
In a pub with mates is a different story, but in a room with thousands watching on TV, bit grim really isnt it |
I mean it's obviously not in good taste, and I wouldn't make that joke, but that wasn't really the question.
The suggestion I was responding to was that JR/a writer knew about Walliams because he made such a joke. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 15:46 - Nov 10 | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 15:40 - Nov 10 by Billywitch |
I mean, do you even do that joke out loud at an awards evening regardless?
In a pub with mates is a different story, but in a room with thousands watching on TV, bit grim really isnt it |
A lot of jokes get their humour from exaggeration. So while it will have been known that Walliams had a penchant for younger women (must've been, or the joke wouldn't have worked at all), it was very likely they didn't know he liked them THAT young - that was just the exaggeration in the joke. That it's turned out to be true is unfortunate/prophetic, but not necessarily known at the time. | |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:01 - Nov 10 | Swansea_Blue |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 13:42 - Nov 10 by _CliveBaker_ |
There's also a picture in that Guardian article of Ross, Gervais, and a few others at an awards dinner where Walliams had taken an 18 year old as his guest. Legally speaking that's not a crime I guess. As you say to give JR the benefit of the doubt, you can suspect someone of being a bit of a creep, but that doesn't mean he knew of any criminality. |
It’s very ‘ick’ isn’t it. Some of the reported encounters don’t sound illegal in isolation. It’ll be the potential grooming element that could cause him issues. (From what I’ve heard from snippets on radio news - there could be a lot more to come out of course). What is it with these celebs who abuse their power? |  |
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