| Brand found guilty on 14:41 - Nov 9 | Zx1988 |
| Brand found guilty on 14:36 - Nov 9 by hype313 |
By all accounts, others are coming forward, he'll be on trial again, he'll be in his 70's by the time he tastes freedom again. |
Whether or not it should be the case, I would imagine future convictions might be a little easier to come by now that any future jury will be fully aware that he has form. |  |
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| Brand found guilty on 14:43 - Nov 9 | Churchman |
| Brand found guilty on 14:33 - Nov 9 by giant_stow |
I just heard some of the judgement on the car radio - the stuff about what he did to that women post rape is unfathomably disgusting. I think hes got off lightly. |
Just seen the sentence and I agree with you totally GS. That thing has been let off very lightly; virtually given a pardon, unlike his victims who have a life sentence.
A disgusting bit of scum like that should be put away until it’s wheeled out in a bag. And any money earned or assets assembled in that so called career taken to pay for his keep. |  | | |
| Brand found guilty on 14:53 - Nov 9 | SirBobbysBoys |
| Brand found guilty on 14:41 - Nov 9 by Zx1988 |
Whether or not it should be the case, I would imagine future convictions might be a little easier to come by now that any future jury will be fully aware that he has form. |
Yep, plus the "previous good character" that the judge applied to this sentence will be out of the window, so he'll get the full tariff for any future convictions. |  | | |
| Brand found guilty on 15:01 - Nov 9 | J2BLUE |
| Brand found guilty on 14:39 - Nov 9 by mutters |
Great news, hope he get his comeuppance inside. Prisions aren't the most forgiving when it comes to sexual predators as I understand it. Really hope his status doesn't give him any special treatment.
10.5 years, is that enough or too little? I have no idea how they gauge these things. If he can be out in half that time then it seems light |
He will probably buy protection |  | | |
| Brand found guilty on 15:12 - Nov 9 | _CliveBaker_ |
| Brand found guilty on 14:39 - Nov 9 by mutters |
Great news, hope he get his comeuppance inside. Prisions aren't the most forgiving when it comes to sexual predators as I understand it. Really hope his status doesn't give him any special treatment.
10.5 years, is that enough or too little? I have no idea how they gauge these things. If he can be out in half that time then it seems light |
He'll have to serve 2/3, so he's looking at 7 years of bird and then out on licence on certain conditions, unless he's found guilty of further cases in the meantime.
I think by the letter of the law its a fairly middling sentence, it doesn't seem like he's been sentenced favourably or more harshly because he's famous.
Whether the law is strict enough in these offences is another question. |  | | |
| Brand found guilty on 15:26 - Nov 9 | Zx1988 |
| Brand found guilty on 14:39 - Nov 9 by mutters |
Great news, hope he get his comeuppance inside. Prisions aren't the most forgiving when it comes to sexual predators as I understand it. Really hope his status doesn't give him any special treatment.
10.5 years, is that enough or too little? I have no idea how they gauge these things. If he can be out in half that time then it seems light |
My understanding is that he'll be able to request housing within a Vulnerable Prisoners Unit or a specialist prison housing sexual offenders; his profile will add clout to any request.
Unless his higher profile makes him a more inviting target for some of his more unhinged co-detainees, I'd imagine that the nature of his offences will probably keep him from going the same way as Ian Watkins and similar. | |
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| Brand found guilty on 15:32 - Nov 9 | leitrimblue |
| Brand found guilty on 15:01 - Nov 9 by J2BLUE |
He will probably buy protection |
Well that should stop him being impregnated but I think he may need more than that to survive 7 years  |  | | |
| Brand found guilty on 15:41 - Nov 9 | bartyg |
Can we all stop fantasising about him being raped himself? What is wrong with you people. |  |
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| Brand found guilty on 16:03 - Nov 9 | SirBobbysBoys |
| Brand found guilty on 15:32 - Nov 9 by leitrimblue |
Well that should stop him being impregnated but I think he may need more than that to survive 7 years |
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| Brand found guilty on 16:11 - Nov 9 | MattinLondon |
| Brand found guilty on 14:39 - Nov 9 by mutters |
Great news, hope he get his comeuppance inside. Prisions aren't the most forgiving when it comes to sexual predators as I understand it. Really hope his status doesn't give him any special treatment.
10.5 years, is that enough or too little? I have no idea how they gauge these things. If he can be out in half that time then it seems light |
As much of a heinous and vile person that he undoubtedly is, as a matter of principle I think that he should be safe from physical harm whilst in prison. |  | | |
| Brand found guilty on 16:17 - Nov 9 | Churchman |
| Brand found guilty on 15:41 - Nov 9 by bartyg |
Can we all stop fantasising about him being raped himself? What is wrong with you people. |
People are not ‘fantasising’. They are just hoping that pariah receives some of what he inflicted upon others - especially as he’s been let off very lightly. | | | |
| Brand found guilty on 16:29 - Nov 9 | MattinLondon |
| Brand found guilty on 16:17 - Nov 9 by Churchman |
People are not ‘fantasising’. They are just hoping that pariah receives some of what he inflicted upon others - especially as he’s been let off very lightly. |
Rape is wrong, no matter who commits it or on who full stop. | | | |
| Brand found guilty on 17:07 - Nov 9 | Billywitch |
| Brand found guilty on 14:31 - Nov 9 by SirBobbysBoys |
I believe there are another couple of cases against him being investigated and may result in further charges. How can his missus stand by him? Which she seemingly is at the moment. She should take the kids and get far away from him. |
one can only imagine she is now going over her own personal encounters with him and considering if she was in control if certain situations, or was she made to do things she really didnt want to. | | | |
| Brand found guilty on 17:13 - Nov 9 | Radlett_blue |
| Brand found guilty on 14:41 - Nov 9 by Zx1988 |
Whether or not it should be the case, I would imagine future convictions might be a little easier to come by now that any future jury will be fully aware that he has form. |
Yes, but if Brand is put on trial for other sex offences, how can he possibly receive a fair trial when most of the jury will be well aware that he is a recently convicted rapist? |  |
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| Brand found guilty on 17:18 - Nov 9 | Mullet |
| Brand found guilty on 17:13 - Nov 9 by Radlett_blue |
Yes, but if Brand is put on trial for other sex offences, how can he possibly receive a fair trial when most of the jury will be well aware that he is a recently convicted rapist? |
The justice system would collapse if previous offending was somehow scrubbed from public record. For me, he reaps what he sows. I don’t see an issue with the trial being “fair” or not now especially when it’s been shown he lied in this one as much as possible. |  |
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| Brand found guilty on 17:30 - Nov 9 | Zx1988 |
| Brand found guilty on 17:18 - Nov 9 by Mullet |
The justice system would collapse if previous offending was somehow scrubbed from public record. For me, he reaps what he sows. I don’t see an issue with the trial being “fair” or not now especially when it’s been shown he lied in this one as much as possible. |
I can see the issue - usually a defendant's past criminal record is not disclosed unless/until they are convicted, at which point it can form part of the sentencing.
I understand the principle behind it, but it rather falls flat when said defendant is a celebrity who has just been convicted following a high profile trial. That said, I have no idea what the alternative is. | |
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| Brand found guilty on 17:37 - Nov 9 | GlasgowBlue |
| Brand found guilty on 17:30 - Nov 9 by Zx1988 |
I can see the issue - usually a defendant's past criminal record is not disclosed unless/until they are convicted, at which point it can form part of the sentencing.
I understand the principle behind it, but it rather falls flat when said defendant is a celebrity who has just been convicted following a high profile trial. That said, I have no idea what the alternative is. |
Didn't stop someone like Gary Glitter being convicted on multiple occasions. |  |
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| Brand found guilty on 18:19 - Nov 9 | Radlett_blue |
| Brand found guilty on 17:37 - Nov 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Didn't stop someone like Gary Glitter being convicted on multiple occasions. |
yes but his UK convictions were 16 years apart. | |
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| Brand found guilty on 18:25 - Nov 9 | GlasgowBlue |
| Brand found guilty on 18:19 - Nov 9 by Radlett_blue |
yes but his UK convictions were 16 years apart. |
I'm not sure the time difference is relevant. I doubt there is a person living in the UK who doesn't associate Garry Glitter with being a nonce. | |
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| Brand found guilty on 18:33 - Nov 9 | Radlett_blue |
| Brand found guilty on 17:18 - Nov 9 by Mullet |
The justice system would collapse if previous offending was somehow scrubbed from public record. For me, he reaps what he sows. I don’t see an issue with the trial being “fair” or not now especially when it’s been shown he lied in this one as much as possible. |
A fair trial involves a jury considering the facts & then deciding if the defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Particularly in a rape trial, where conviction usually depends on whether the jury believe the defendant or the victim's version of events, it's near impossible to see a jury finding in favour of Brand. | |
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| Brand found guilty on 18:53 - Nov 9 | Mullet |
| Brand found guilty on 18:33 - Nov 9 by Radlett_blue |
A fair trial involves a jury considering the facts & then deciding if the defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Particularly in a rape trial, where conviction usually depends on whether the jury believe the defendant or the victim's version of events, it's near impossible to see a jury finding in favour of Brand. |
Quite. Shouldn’t be a rapist should he? | |
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| Brand found guilty on 19:58 - Nov 9 | Churchman |
| Brand found guilty on 16:29 - Nov 9 by MattinLondon |
Rape is wrong, no matter who commits it or on who full stop. |
Yes, rape is wrong. But that thing never gave a monkeys about that or the consequences to his victims. Life changing consequences. It’s them a care about. If, to paraphrase Shawshank Redemption, he is cast down with the s0domites, I couldn’t care a less.
Brand’s ’human rights’? He has forfeited those. If I had my way he’d be just a number working and paying for his existence - and certainly never released. | | | |
| Brand found guilty on 20:53 - Nov 9 | bartyg |
| Brand found guilty on 19:58 - Nov 9 by Churchman |
Yes, rape is wrong. But that thing never gave a monkeys about that or the consequences to his victims. Life changing consequences. It’s them a care about. If, to paraphrase Shawshank Redemption, he is cast down with the s0domites, I couldn’t care a less.
Brand’s ’human rights’? He has forfeited those. If I had my way he’d be just a number working and paying for his existence - and certainly never released. |
Where is the line between criminal and subhuman?
The ability to manipulate and abuse others is within all of us, it's important to recognise that so you can correct that behaviour within yourself and those you know. Realising we're just rehashing the death penalty debate again.
Also the quote you've added is rank. | |
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| Brand found guilty on 21:02 - Nov 9 | MattinLondon |
| Brand found guilty on 19:58 - Nov 9 by Churchman |
Yes, rape is wrong. But that thing never gave a monkeys about that or the consequences to his victims. Life changing consequences. It’s them a care about. If, to paraphrase Shawshank Redemption, he is cast down with the s0domites, I couldn’t care a less.
Brand’s ’human rights’? He has forfeited those. If I had my way he’d be just a number working and paying for his existence - and certainly never released. |
It’s hard to argue this point without feeling uneasy but here goes.
I don’t think human rights are something that can be taken away and cast aside according to the nature of their crimes - if we do that to Brand (as well as prisoners like him) then it becomes easier to do exactly the same to criminals of slightly lesser crimes and so on and so on.
Yes, he didn’t give a damn about his victims but if we treat even the most vile of criminals in a dehumanising way, then god help society when they are released. They will be ten times worse in terms of outlook - and most criminals are eventually released as there isn’t the prison space to imprison criminals forever. | | | |
| Brand found guilty on 21:29 - Nov 9 | Bigalhunter |
| Brand found guilty on 20:53 - Nov 9 by bartyg |
Where is the line between criminal and subhuman?
The ability to manipulate and abuse others is within all of us, it's important to recognise that so you can correct that behaviour within yourself and those you know. Realising we're just rehashing the death penalty debate again.
Also the quote you've added is rank. |
You called it earlier with the same poster
Fetishizing prison rape isn’t a good look. |  |
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