| Walton is doing as he’s told 17:05 - Nov 8 with 1555 views | BelsteadCav |
We all know Walton isn’t the best with his feet so why make him play out?
Bournemouth press so high, so it doesn’t matter if he smacks the ball down the pitch.
I’ve been hard on Billy Jean lately, but that was probably his best game so far this season.
That was also Emersons worst game so far, so expect a change next game |  |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:10 - Nov 8 | Swansea_Blue |
I think so too. He won't have been told to do what he did today but his hesitancy on the ball will be because he was thinking about playing out first and foremost. And then he ran out of time to do the correct thing which would have been to lump it. Mind you, if he'd have sold Evanilson and put him on his arse he would have made the highlight reels. I'd rather a keeper who can spot the risk and make the right decision though. |  |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:17 - Nov 8 | FrimleyBlue |
Walton plays one the longest games in the prem
We clearly dont ask him to play short balls all the time
Occssionally the keeper needs to play the ball short
If you cant its another sign you arent a prem keeper |  |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:28 - Nov 8 | bsw72 |
It’s not the playing with his feet, it’s the indecision/lack speed of thought. He’s not quick enough to make his mind up what to do with it whether it’s at his feet or on his hands. |  | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:34 - Nov 8 | JakeITFC |
The problem starts with the ball to O’Shea which Bournemouth signpost - as soon as it gets rolled to him the press is triggered and then it’s a ball to Walton’s weak foot and trouble arises.
A few questions that arise - a) should we look to kick our first goal kick long after a really positive start? B) should we play right into the pressing trap of one of the best out of possession teams in world football? C) should we try and overplay after being caught in that trap?
Unfortunately I think we got the answer to all of those questions wrong. It’s a howler and unfortunately it’s a both a personal one and a system one. |  | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:37 - Nov 8 | StokieBlue |
There was an easy pass on with his right foot, instead of that he tried to take on the forward. I'm pretty sure he wasn't told to do that.
That goal is on Walton, I don't think you can spin it any other way.
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:43 - Nov 8 | Blue_In_Boston |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:34 - Nov 8 by JakeITFC |
The problem starts with the ball to O’Shea which Bournemouth signpost - as soon as it gets rolled to him the press is triggered and then it’s a ball to Walton’s weak foot and trouble arises.
A few questions that arise - a) should we look to kick our first goal kick long after a really positive start? B) should we play right into the pressing trap of one of the best out of possession teams in world football? C) should we try and overplay after being caught in that trap?
Unfortunately I think we got the answer to all of those questions wrong. It’s a howler and unfortunately it’s a both a personal one and a system one. |
Perfectly summed up.
At times you have to accept that as a team their pressing game is better than our playing out from the back ability.
In that situation just don't risk it.
For those abusing and making Walton the scapegoat find a dictionary and look up supporter and team. Lots of idiots on here. |  | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:43 - Nov 8 | Garv |
Is Walton any worse with his feet than the average keeper? I don't remember an error from him like that before?
Agree Emersonn was really poor, almost from the first minute actually. Despite us being superb for 10 minutes or so, he was still a weak link in my view. Flemming should be knocking O'Neill's door down. |  |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:47 - Nov 8 | armchaircritic59 |
When you are on the pitch, you do ( or should do ) what you think is the right thing to do at the precise moment, not have a coaching manual running through your mind. It's up to any individual player to take responsibility for what they do at any given time. Goes for any player in any position, not just keepers. The modern day curse, coaching to within an inch of a players life. |  | | |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 18:00 - Nov 8 | BelsteadCav |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:47 - Nov 8 by armchaircritic59 |
When you are on the pitch, you do ( or should do ) what you think is the right thing to do at the precise moment, not have a coaching manual running through your mind. It's up to any individual player to take responsibility for what they do at any given time. Goes for any player in any position, not just keepers. The modern day curse, coaching to within an inch of a players life. |
I agree with you there, over coaching is definitely a thing
You see it everywhere | |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 18:05 - Nov 8 | GlasgowBlue |
Walton had two easy and one moderate option to pass to. It was his indecision, not his inability that cost the goal. |  |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 18:07 - Nov 8 | Swansea_Blue |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:28 - Nov 8 by bsw72 |
It’s not the playing with his feet, it’s the indecision/lack speed of thought. He’s not quick enough to make his mind up what to do with it whether it’s at his feet or on his hands. |
Quite. I’m not sure why they can’t take the decision making out of it and have two or three scenarios instead where he knows exactly what to do in each case. Turn it into muscle memory effectively and then you’re always ahead of the opposition. E.g. under no pressure?; do what you want. A pressing opponent within 5 yards, play first time to a free defender one touch allowed to shift feet if needed, or clear. A pressing player only a couple of metres away, if team mate clearly available then first time pass on receiving side ok, otherwise just clear it and don’t try your worst Johan Cruyff impression! Just make it automatic for the keepers and minimise decision making. For good players their best vantage to gain space is always in their head and a structured approach to help with decisions could possibly help there.
Or I could be talking ballacks. | |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 19:39 - Nov 8 | Steve_M |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:34 - Nov 8 by JakeITFC |
The problem starts with the ball to O’Shea which Bournemouth signpost - as soon as it gets rolled to him the press is triggered and then it’s a ball to Walton’s weak foot and trouble arises.
A few questions that arise - a) should we look to kick our first goal kick long after a really positive start? B) should we play right into the pressing trap of one of the best out of possession teams in world football? C) should we try and overplay after being caught in that trap?
Unfortunately I think we got the answer to all of those questions wrong. It’s a howler and unfortunately it’s a both a personal one and a system one. |
Yeah, much more than just Walton making a mistake for that goal. |  |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 20:04 - Nov 8 | lazyblue |
He is not told to try and take on established premier players and out skill them | | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 20:12 - Nov 8 | FrimleyBlue |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:34 - Nov 8 by JakeITFC |
The problem starts with the ball to O’Shea which Bournemouth signpost - as soon as it gets rolled to him the press is triggered and then it’s a ball to Walton’s weak foot and trouble arises.
A few questions that arise - a) should we look to kick our first goal kick long after a really positive start? B) should we play right into the pressing trap of one of the best out of possession teams in world football? C) should we try and overplay after being caught in that trap?
Unfortunately I think we got the answer to all of those questions wrong. It’s a howler and unfortunately it’s a both a personal one and a system one. |
The ball was played to waltons left foot. That is his strongest
Walton brought the ball central looked across to diop saw that pass wasnt on and tried to quick foot the striker
He was completely unaware that palacios was absolutely free right in front of him with a simple right footed pass.
There is no problem other than walton messing up. That play was very simple to do. He fked up. His awareness is terrible. Hes looking at oshea. Looks down at the ball. Looks to diop then trips over the ball in a panic. Zero awareness of the easy outball [Post edited 8 Nov 20:17]
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 20:59 - Nov 8 | lurcher |
Walton froze, it was like he was rebooting. |  | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 21:37 - Nov 8 | PrideOfTheEast |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:37 - Nov 8 by StokieBlue |
There was an easy pass on with his right foot, instead of that he tried to take on the forward. I'm pretty sure he wasn't told to do that.
That goal is on Walton, I don't think you can spin it any other way.
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Indeed and quite why you’d try to, who knows. | | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 08:05 - Nov 9 | RetroBlue |
OP: and thats the problem isn't it it. Players seem incapable of using their own brains and adapting to the direction right in front of them, because they're " told to do it this way"
Where's the spontaneity in football gone these days?? Totally over coached as a sport now. Everything is the " same" in the game these days. |  |
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| Walton is doing as he’s told on 08:24 - Nov 9 | Devereuxxx |
I also agree there is a part of it where we knew Bournemouth press high, but decided to dally around with it early doors, when the sensible money would be to go long. Potentially we were trying to invite pressure to work out their pressing patterns?
Either way, Walton is still to blame. He wasn't even close to getting it past Evanilson either. If you put both players in that same situation, and Walton tries that, Evanilson gets it 9 out of 10 times. He was so close to him. |  | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 08:27 - Nov 9 | BABLUE |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 18:05 - Nov 8 by GlasgowBlue |
Walton had two easy and one moderate option to pass to. It was his indecision, not his inability that cost the goal. |
A pass behind Diop was still on when he saw that he was being closed down |  | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 09:05 - Nov 9 | tractorshark |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 17:34 - Nov 8 by JakeITFC |
The problem starts with the ball to O’Shea which Bournemouth signpost - as soon as it gets rolled to him the press is triggered and then it’s a ball to Walton’s weak foot and trouble arises.
A few questions that arise - a) should we look to kick our first goal kick long after a really positive start? B) should we play right into the pressing trap of one of the best out of possession teams in world football? C) should we try and overplay after being caught in that trap?
Unfortunately I think we got the answer to all of those questions wrong. It’s a howler and unfortunately it’s a both a personal one and a system one. |
There was a simple pass to Diop when the ball first went to Walton. He delayed on that, then played it to O’Shea and it came back to his left foot.
He dithered, panicked and got caught out. I think Bournemouth have one of the best (if not the best) running and pressing stats currently so it wasn’t really a shock they’d close us down.
Walton is indecisive on the ball and he has a tendency to panic. It wasn’t the first time this season that he’s shown that.
However, his passing is genuinely fairly accurate, something Scherpen struggled with.
Big decision now. Scherpen was dropped for less so does he come back now Walton has made a couple of errors?
For me, I still feel more comfortable with Walton in goal. I didn’t think Scherpen was a particularly good shot stopper in the albeit limited time I saw him. | | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 09:42 - Nov 9 | swede |
A goalkeeper trying to do a prime Johann Cruyff on one of the Premier League's inform striker two yards from the goal line is either sheer arrogance or madness. You could see it coming a mile off. Bournemouth clearly knew his weakness and played on it right from the start.
From what I have seen of Scherpen, I am not sure he is any better with his feet either. The keeper who impressed me most pre-season with his calmness and distribution is currently bench warming in Spain. | | | |
| Walton is doing as he’s told on 09:45 - Nov 9 | _CliveBaker_ |
No he isn't. He's happy to invite the press and play it short, but once that ball comes back to him from O'Shea he has to go long.
I can guarantee you he'll never have been told to attempt a Cruyff turn in his 6 yard box, it was absolutely ridiculous decision making on his part. |  | | |
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