| Ian Redford 11:00 - Aug 15 with 4694 views | JmSG |
This Scottish player, he played in Ipswich Town from 88 to 91 It seems that at the beginning of his sporting career he was a center forward, but when he played in Ipswich he was a playmaker / attacking midfielder? Do you remember? |  | | |  |
| Ian Redford on 11:04 - Aug 15 with 4354 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I remember him. Scored goals from midfield. I don't recall him being anything other than a midfielder. Was decent from what I recall.
EDIT: Wiki says he was a record fee transfer in Scotland to Rangers at one point before joining us. [Post edited 15 Aug 2020 11:11]
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| Ian Redford on 11:15 - Aug 15 with 4299 views | gainsboroughblue |
He was always an attacking midfielder/striker in Scotland. Prolific scorer too. He played on the left of midfield here but was largely used in a defensive central midfield role by Duncan.
In Lyall's first season, Redford played up front for half a season but found himself out of the side when Whitton/Goddard arrived.
If anybody hasn't come across his book 'Raindrops keep falling on my head ', I urge people to read it. Interesting and pretty heartbreaking in equal measure. |  |
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| Ian Redford on 11:18 - Aug 15 with 4284 views | solemio |
Apart from his considerable footballing abilities he was also clearly a very intelligent man.
Not all footballers are, you know. | | | |
| Ian Redford on 11:28 - Aug 15 with 4236 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ian Redford on 11:18 - Aug 15 by solemio |
Apart from his considerable footballing abilities he was also clearly a very intelligent man.
Not all footballers are, you know. |
Evidence for such an outrageous claim?
Redford played at the same time as Steve Palmer who had a degree from Cambridge.
EDIT: PS you don't really need to find me any evidence - it was tongue-in-cheek.
SECOND EDIT: Wiki says he also had a first class cricket appearance for Cambridge University vs Lancashire, playing alongside Mike Atherton and being dismissed for 18 by Paul Allott having taken the wicket of Graeme Fowler. [Post edited 15 Aug 2020 11:35]
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| Ian Redford on 11:29 - Aug 15 with 4224 views | Scuzzer |
Yes. He was a very stylish player with a very accurate pass. Was quite sad when he left. |  |
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| Ian Redford on 11:41 - Aug 15 with 4166 views | ParisBlue |
That team from the late 80's didn't achieve anything but we'd die for a set of players like that now.
Dalian, Brennan, Lowe, Dozzell, Kiwomya, Forrest, Redford, Gayle, Linighan, Thompson, Stockwell, Zondervan, Milton, Wark... |  |
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| Ian Redford on 12:47 - Aug 15 with 4033 views | mojo |
| Ian Redford on 11:41 - Aug 15 by ParisBlue |
That team from the late 80's didn't achieve anything but we'd die for a set of players like that now.
Dalian, Brennan, Lowe, Dozzell, Kiwomya, Forrest, Redford, Gayle, Linighan, Thompson, Stockwell, Zondervan, Milton, Wark... |
A lot of that team were in the old second division title winning team | | | |
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| Ian Redford on 14:53 - Aug 15 with 3785 views | BryanPlug |
| Ian Redford on 11:28 - Aug 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Evidence for such an outrageous claim?
Redford played at the same time as Steve Palmer who had a degree from Cambridge.
EDIT: PS you don't really need to find me any evidence - it was tongue-in-cheek.
SECOND EDIT: Wiki says he also had a first class cricket appearance for Cambridge University vs Lancashire, playing alongside Mike Atherton and being dismissed for 18 by Paul Allott having taken the wicket of Graeme Fowler. [Post edited 15 Aug 2020 11:35]
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| Ian Redford on 15:06 - Aug 15 with 3749 views | bluebudgie |
| Ian Redford on 14:53 - Aug 15 by BryanPlug |
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Ian Redford was a cultured player.He tragically committed suicide in2014 aged 53. |  | | |
| Ian Redford on 16:41 - Aug 15 with 3658 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Ian Redford on 15:06 - Aug 15 by bluebudgie |
Ian Redford was a cultured player.He tragically committed suicide in2014 aged 53. |
He played in a fine Dundee Utd side that beat Barcelona home and away in the semi-final of the UEFA Cup. He was past his prime when he came to Town but was still a decent player. He became big friends with Sergei Baltacha.
He was partially deaf and his brother died aged 12. Both of these things had a affected him during his life.
I've got a great photo of him training on the PR pitch during the last days of the Duncan era, took it the day before a match against Hull City which we lost 0-1. I will dig it out sometime and scan it on here.
His book is well worth a read |  |
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| Ian Redford on 17:22 - Aug 15 with 3601 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ian Redford on 15:06 - Aug 15 by bluebudgie |
Ian Redford was a cultured player.He tragically committed suicide in2014 aged 53. |
I didn't know that.
Sounds like his book is worth looking out for. | |
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| Ian Redford on 18:19 - Aug 15 with 3533 views | The_Major |
Probably my favourite player of the Duncan era once Dalian left. And although we didn't realise it at the time, it was quite the coup that we got him. He'd had success in Scotland with Rangers, and then was part of the Dundee United side that got to the UEFA Final in 1987, beating Barcelona 2-1 at the Nou Camp in the quarter final, and then Redford himself scoring the clincher in the semi against Borussia Mönchengladbach.
He was very highly thought of in Scotland, and so for him to try his luck in England with us instead of perhaps a mid to lower table top division side was quite the surprise.
He showed some very good skills on the ball in midfield, but there wasn't a lot of goals to say the least (in a Cole Skuse stylee), I can recall one at Hull and the fourth in the David Gregory hattrick ZDS Cup match against Watford. Plus a bundled one in a Hospital Cup match against Nodge where I think he put Bryan Gunn in the net as well. But he was a solid, dependable player.
As said below, when Lyall took over, the first half of the season saw Redford in a more attacking position, and then he did start scoring regularly - I think he was in double figures by that Christmas - but then I think he picked up an injury, and that was that, we never saw him again, with him back up north to St Johnstone on a free transfer that summer. Where, ironically, Sergei was already was waiting for him. After that, a brief disastrous stint managing Brechin City, and then he became a hotelier I believe.
Certainly, I'd rate him as one of the most underrated players we've had since the Robson era. (See also Mason, P.) |  | | |
| Ian Redford on 18:36 - Aug 15 with 3508 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Ian Redford on 11:41 - Aug 15 by ParisBlue |
That team from the late 80's didn't achieve anything but we'd die for a set of players like that now.
Dalian, Brennan, Lowe, Dozzell, Kiwomya, Forrest, Redford, Gayle, Linighan, Thompson, Stockwell, Zondervan, Milton, Wark... |
Hmm... Most of them will still be under 60... |  |
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| Ian Redford on 18:59 - Aug 15 with 3482 views | farkenhell |
| Ian Redford on 18:19 - Aug 15 by The_Major |
Probably my favourite player of the Duncan era once Dalian left. And although we didn't realise it at the time, it was quite the coup that we got him. He'd had success in Scotland with Rangers, and then was part of the Dundee United side that got to the UEFA Final in 1987, beating Barcelona 2-1 at the Nou Camp in the quarter final, and then Redford himself scoring the clincher in the semi against Borussia Mönchengladbach.
He was very highly thought of in Scotland, and so for him to try his luck in England with us instead of perhaps a mid to lower table top division side was quite the surprise.
He showed some very good skills on the ball in midfield, but there wasn't a lot of goals to say the least (in a Cole Skuse stylee), I can recall one at Hull and the fourth in the David Gregory hattrick ZDS Cup match against Watford. Plus a bundled one in a Hospital Cup match against Nodge where I think he put Bryan Gunn in the net as well. But he was a solid, dependable player.
As said below, when Lyall took over, the first half of the season saw Redford in a more attacking position, and then he did start scoring regularly - I think he was in double figures by that Christmas - but then I think he picked up an injury, and that was that, we never saw him again, with him back up north to St Johnstone on a free transfer that summer. Where, ironically, Sergei was already was waiting for him. After that, a brief disastrous stint managing Brechin City, and then he became a hotelier I believe.
Certainly, I'd rate him as one of the most underrated players we've had since the Robson era. (See also Mason, P.) |
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw him scoring away v dirty Leeds in 89/90. I'm not totally sure because we scored 3 goals in quick succession in the second half at the away end, so I was fairly delirious! | | | |
| Ian Redford on 21:35 - Aug 15 with 3384 views | rfretwell |
| Ian Redford on 18:59 - Aug 15 by farkenhell |
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw him scoring away v dirty Leeds in 89/90. I'm not totally sure because we scored 3 goals in quick succession in the second half at the away end, so I was fairly delirious! |
Yes a cultured midfielder who would walk to our current first team it goes without saying. Saw him play in our away match at Plough Lane i remember. Didnt know he committed suicide. Must read his autobiography. | | | |
| Ian Redford on 23:56 - Aug 15 with 3275 views | Coastalblue |
| Ian Redford on 18:19 - Aug 15 by The_Major |
Probably my favourite player of the Duncan era once Dalian left. And although we didn't realise it at the time, it was quite the coup that we got him. He'd had success in Scotland with Rangers, and then was part of the Dundee United side that got to the UEFA Final in 1987, beating Barcelona 2-1 at the Nou Camp in the quarter final, and then Redford himself scoring the clincher in the semi against Borussia Mönchengladbach.
He was very highly thought of in Scotland, and so for him to try his luck in England with us instead of perhaps a mid to lower table top division side was quite the surprise.
He showed some very good skills on the ball in midfield, but there wasn't a lot of goals to say the least (in a Cole Skuse stylee), I can recall one at Hull and the fourth in the David Gregory hattrick ZDS Cup match against Watford. Plus a bundled one in a Hospital Cup match against Nodge where I think he put Bryan Gunn in the net as well. But he was a solid, dependable player.
As said below, when Lyall took over, the first half of the season saw Redford in a more attacking position, and then he did start scoring regularly - I think he was in double figures by that Christmas - but then I think he picked up an injury, and that was that, we never saw him again, with him back up north to St Johnstone on a free transfer that summer. Where, ironically, Sergei was already was waiting for him. After that, a brief disastrous stint managing Brechin City, and then he became a hotelier I believe.
Certainly, I'd rate him as one of the most underrated players we've had since the Robson era. (See also Mason, P.) |
Paul Mason underated? I thought he was a terrific player, we'd kill for someone of his calibre now.
I remember Redford well, was a quality player for us. |  |
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| Ian Redford on 05:12 - Aug 16 with 3224 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Ian Redford on 23:56 - Aug 15 by Coastalblue |
Paul Mason underated? I thought he was a terrific player, we'd kill for someone of his calibre now.
I remember Redford well, was a quality player for us. |
Dozzell, Zondervan and Redford was as classy a midfield trio as we have had. Just a shame they spent most games watching the ball sail over their heads.
Mason indeed was quality. He seemed to leave/retire while he still had a lot to offer too. | |
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| Ian Redford on 21:18 - Aug 20 with 2850 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Ian Redford on 05:12 - Aug 16 by gainsboroughblue |
Dozzell, Zondervan and Redford was as classy a midfield trio as we have had. Just a shame they spent most games watching the ball sail over their heads.
Mason indeed was quality. He seemed to leave/retire while he still had a lot to offer too. |
Mason had a bad injury which took him out for a year. He came back on a week to week deal, scored in the League Cup and then retired straight away. His injury meant he was up against it and by that time he must have been 34. | |
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| Ian Redford on 03:34 - Aug 21 with 2694 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Ian Redford on 21:18 - Aug 20 by The_Last_Baron |
Mason had a bad injury which took him out for a year. He came back on a week to week deal, scored in the League Cup and then retired straight away. His injury meant he was up against it and by that time he must have been 34. |
That explains things a bit more. That goal at Exeter (?) was my final memory of him and just seemed to disappear after that. I'm guessing Dyer would have been well established at that point by then also. | |
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| Ian Redford on 07:12 - Aug 21 with 2598 views | hype313 |
| Ian Redford on 11:41 - Aug 15 by ParisBlue |
That team from the late 80's didn't achieve anything but we'd die for a set of players like that now.
Dalian, Brennan, Lowe, Dozzell, Kiwomya, Forrest, Redford, Gayle, Linighan, Thompson, Stockwell, Zondervan, Milton, Wark... |
Kevin Wilson aswell, who was a decent striker, if we had him Lowe and Dalian going into this season I would be lumping on us at the bookies! |  |
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| Ian Redford on 07:19 - Aug 21 with 2589 views | The_Major |
Not forgetting Tony Humes or David Hill of course.
And yes, naturally, there were some players best forgotten *coughgrahamharbeycough* | | | |
| Ian Redford on 07:23 - Aug 21 with 2586 views | The_Major |
Incidentally, through a wormhole in time and space, I can hear New Year's Day 1990 me, standing on a terrace at a freezing cold Vale Park, having just endured a half hungover Town team being smacked 5-0 by Port Vale, and destined to a two hour delay on the M6 on the trip home, yelling at me: "Hang on, you want to see THIS lot?"
Yes. Yes I do. That's how bad things have got. | | | |
| Ian Redford on 08:44 - Aug 21 with 2492 views | carlisleaway |
| Ian Redford on 21:18 - Aug 20 by The_Last_Baron |
Mason had a bad injury which took him out for a year. He came back on a week to week deal, scored in the League Cup and then retired straight away. His injury meant he was up against it and by that time he must have been 34. |
Didn’t Paul Mason score in that FA Cup replay against a very strong Blackburn team in extra time, great long journey home that night. |  | | |
| Ian Redford on 09:29 - Aug 21 with 2461 views | Radlett_blue |
| Ian Redford on 05:12 - Aug 16 by gainsboroughblue |
Dozzell, Zondervan and Redford was as classy a midfield trio as we have had. Just a shame they spent most games watching the ball sail over their heads.
Mason indeed was quality. He seemed to leave/retire while he still had a lot to offer too. |
Indeed. I think Redford regretted joining Town after he saw the way Duncan wanted the team to play, especially as he was very good on the ball himself. |  |
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