| Middle class white boys (and girls) 12:28 - Aug 28 with 4936 views | GlasgowBlue |
Doing their best to get Trump a second term.
Does any disagree that this is anything other counterproductive when Trump is trying to frighten the electorate to stick with him? |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:42 - Aug 28 with 2904 views | Keno |
If you were going to be very cynical you could almost wonder if all that's now going on is in some way be orchestrated by Trump to give him the images he needs
by I dont suppose Trumo would do that, would he? |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:45 - Aug 28 with 2885 views | Guthrum |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:42 - Aug 28 by Keno |
If you were going to be very cynical you could almost wonder if all that's now going on is in some way be orchestrated by Trump to give him the images he needs
by I dont suppose Trumo would do that, would he? |
Trump probably wouldn't. But some of those associated with or backing him might well. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:50 - Aug 28 with 2878 views | lowhouseblue |
the irony of a man who has made his political career out of pure intolerance riding back to power on the back of other people's intolerance is a bit overpowering. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:52 - Aug 28 with 2870 views | LankHenners |
It's liberal performative nonsense which has been seen many times before in different guises, though if anyone genuinely believes this specific incident helps Trump win the election then I'd like to invite them to hand over their wallet as it's due for an inspection.
Lol at Aarno thinking this is the "mirror image"of the far right as well. Well not lol, as it's comments like that from supposedly sensible people like him which do just as much to discredit BLM and other movements as the people he's criticising. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:53 - Aug 28 with 2870 views | JakeITFC |
I like the idea that riots under the serving President are a reason not to vote for a different one.
Same nonsense that somehow worked with the Conservatives here - vote Tory to make a change. |  | | |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:06 - Aug 28 with 2822 views | bluelagos |
I'd agree it's counterproductive yeah.
But I'd also point out that anyone raising the issue of some antifa being verbally abusive rather than the original police shooting of an unarmed man in the back, or the murder of 2 protesters by a 17 year old militia wannabe is maybe focusing on the wrong aspects of the whole sorry business. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:09 - Aug 28 with 2804 views | Steve_M |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:06 - Aug 28 by bluelagos |
I'd agree it's counterproductive yeah.
But I'd also point out that anyone raising the issue of some antifa being verbally abusive rather than the original police shooting of an unarmed man in the back, or the murder of 2 protesters by a 17 year old militia wannabe is maybe focusing on the wrong aspects of the whole sorry business. |
The Times has got the tone right this morning:
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:28 - Aug 28 with 2738 views | Darth_Koont |
Hardly "mirror image".
While I don't at all agree with the worst excesses including intimidation and violence, the difference is justifiable anger up against an uncaring and self-interested establishment.
The "bad people on both sides" argument would have some genuine weight if we weren't talking about those fighting massive systemic injustices on one hand, and the people who would perpetuate them on the other. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:32 - Aug 28 with 2728 views | jaseitfc2015 |
The fact this is now happening in Wisconsin should concern the democrats greatly, they need the midwest to win the election & trumps message seems to be cutting through mostly there ... |  | | |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:36 - Aug 28 with 2710 views | giant_stow |
Everyone's lost their minds.
(and this is coming from a loon) |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:36 - Aug 28 with 2707 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:06 - Aug 28 by bluelagos |
I'd agree it's counterproductive yeah.
But I'd also point out that anyone raising the issue of some antifa being verbally abusive rather than the original police shooting of an unarmed man in the back, or the murder of 2 protesters by a 17 year old militia wannabe is maybe focusing on the wrong aspects of the whole sorry business. |
The racist murder by US Police has been condemned over and over by a great many of us in here.
This is a separate issue. The best outcome for Black Americans would be a Dem victory. Stuff like this makes that less likely as it plays into Trumps hands. | |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:01 - Aug 28 with 2661 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 13:09 - Aug 28 by Steve_M |
The Times has got the tone right this morning:
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That is an absolutely bizarre take by the Times. | |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:23 - Aug 28 with 2615 views | tractordownsouth |
Really frustrates me that some people genuinely thinks that this helps the Democrats or helps achieve racial equality. Trump won't win though - and I said last time that he would. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:34 - Aug 28 with 2593 views | Clapham_Junction |
For balance, here is part of the video from earlier in the initial exchange when black protesters were at the front and ask white ones to come forward.?
Poor effort from the OP to ignore this. |  | | |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:46 - Aug 28 with 2551 views | giant_stow |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:34 - Aug 28 by Clapham_Junction |
For balance, here is part of the video from earlier in the initial exchange when black protesters were at the front and ask white ones to come forward.?
Poor effort from the OP to ignore this. |
White or black, isn't the point that this is no way to persuade and influence either that woman sat there or anyone else watching?
Edit: i think GB is waiting for Spruce to turn up re that part of the OP. [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 14:46]
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:47 - Aug 28 with 2538 views | Illinoisblue |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:53 - Aug 28 by JakeITFC |
I like the idea that riots under the serving President are a reason not to vote for a different one.
Same nonsense that somehow worked with the Conservatives here - vote Tory to make a change. |
This times a thousand and then some. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:55 - Aug 28 with 2507 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:34 - Aug 28 by Clapham_Junction |
For balance, here is part of the video from earlier in the initial exchange when black protesters were at the front and ask white ones to come forward.?
Poor effort from the OP to ignore this. |
Poor effort from you to assume that I have seen this tweet and ignored it. As I’m working I won’t hear the audio until later.
I saw the initial tweet from DA which I linked. Poor effort from you to completely swerve the second video on my op. [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 14:55]
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:55 - Aug 28 with 2505 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:46 - Aug 28 by giant_stow |
White or black, isn't the point that this is no way to persuade and influence either that woman sat there or anyone else watching?
Edit: i think GB is waiting for Spruce to turn up re that part of the OP. [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 14:46]
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I think the point of the post was more about winding up Callis tbh. | | | |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:57 - Aug 28 with 2496 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:55 - Aug 28 by Clapham_Junction |
I think the point of the post was more about winding up Callis tbh. |
I have no interaction with said poster. You seem to be assuming quite a bit of what is going on in my mind.
I coined the phrase 'middle class white boys' long before the baiters hijacked it.
Jog on. [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 19:42]
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 15:15 - Aug 28 with 2461 views | eireblue |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:46 - Aug 28 by giant_stow |
White or black, isn't the point that this is no way to persuade and influence either that woman sat there or anyone else watching?
Edit: i think GB is waiting for Spruce to turn up re that part of the OP. [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 14:46]
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This is of course correct.
In both sets of videos the protesters include people of colour. Neither video makes clear the social/economic background of the protesters.
GB, is assumed to have a degree of intelligence, I can only think the title serves a specified
purpose related to forum posts.
It is all a bit Louise Mensch. |  | | |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 16:22 - Aug 28 with 2367 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:55 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Poor effort from you to assume that I have seen this tweet and ignored it. As I’m working I won’t hear the audio until later.
I saw the initial tweet from DA which I linked. Poor effort from you to completely swerve the second video on my op. [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 14:55]
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Why was he finding it so hard to answer a simple question. |  |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 17:19 - Aug 28 with 2319 views | monytowbray |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 14:55 - Aug 28 by Clapham_Junction |
I think the point of the post was more about winding up Callis tbh. |
It’s mostly the fact he’s called everything wrong over the 2020 and outed himself for spending more time ridiculing anti-racism protests than he does being against racism.
But rather than own his comments he’s doubled down and goes off crying to Phil every time he’s challenged.
It’s all rather pathetic really. Deffo one of those people who voted for Brexit, defended Austerity for years and helped spread right wing propaganda, yet when fascism arrives in full form he’ll still say “it was the left wing’s fault”.
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 17:51 - Aug 28 with 2266 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 12:53 - Aug 28 by JakeITFC |
I like the idea that riots under the serving President are a reason not to vote for a different one.
Same nonsense that somehow worked with the Conservatives here - vote Tory to make a change. |
What we learned last year is that when the left are seen to be in alignment with thugs and vandals, the centre will move more to the right.
This would be even worse for the Dems had Bernie won the nomination. Biden can at least distance himself from some of the footage I’ve linked.
I can’t recall if it was you or your brother who made the statement along the lines of, the criticism Corbyn was getting regarding Antisemitism had made you a more vociferous supporter of him.
Let me ask you this. If you were at a pro Labour election rally and a group of mostly non Jews, mostly right wing, started harassing you and your Mrs about supporting an antisemite, or if you were minding your own business in a restaurant and a group of mostly Non Jews, again right wingers, started abusing you for showing what they believed to be a lack of solidarity with the Jewish community, how would you have felt? [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 17:56]
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 18:22 - Aug 28 with 2219 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 17:51 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue |
What we learned last year is that when the left are seen to be in alignment with thugs and vandals, the centre will move more to the right.
This would be even worse for the Dems had Bernie won the nomination. Biden can at least distance himself from some of the footage I’ve linked.
I can’t recall if it was you or your brother who made the statement along the lines of, the criticism Corbyn was getting regarding Antisemitism had made you a more vociferous supporter of him.
Let me ask you this. If you were at a pro Labour election rally and a group of mostly non Jews, mostly right wing, started harassing you and your Mrs about supporting an antisemite, or if you were minding your own business in a restaurant and a group of mostly Non Jews, again right wingers, started abusing you for showing what they believed to be a lack of solidarity with the Jewish community, how would you have felt? [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 17:56]
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Is that how you see it.....p1ss poor effort really. The centre moves to the right because of the right....so people like you! | |
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| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 18:33 - Aug 28 with 2201 views | Darth_Koont |
| Middle class white boys (and girls) on 17:51 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue |
What we learned last year is that when the left are seen to be in alignment with thugs and vandals, the centre will move more to the right.
This would be even worse for the Dems had Bernie won the nomination. Biden can at least distance himself from some of the footage I’ve linked.
I can’t recall if it was you or your brother who made the statement along the lines of, the criticism Corbyn was getting regarding Antisemitism had made you a more vociferous supporter of him.
Let me ask you this. If you were at a pro Labour election rally and a group of mostly non Jews, mostly right wing, started harassing you and your Mrs about supporting an antisemite, or if you were minding your own business in a restaurant and a group of mostly Non Jews, again right wingers, started abusing you for showing what they believed to be a lack of solidarity with the Jewish community, how would you have felt? [Post edited 28 Aug 2020 17:56]
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Do you have a planning permit for that strawman? | |
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